Anyone watch Democrat convention?

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He's really more of a moderate in tone and style, which means he's not a big dick-slapper. On policy, he was pretty conservative especially when he was on Capitol Hill. And literally nobody in the country has more credibility on the budget than he does. He was the real architect of the '90s balanced budgets.

He's also willing to piss this country away by having left wing extremists take it over. The dude's now an embarrassment to the conservative movement.
 
He's also willing to piss this country away by having left wing extremists take it over. The dude's now an embarrassment to the conservative movement.

I agree that he's foolish to endorse Biden. Even if you don't support Trump, I don't see how endorsing Biden can be reconciled with conservatism.

Even if Biden wanted to make some kind of concession to him for his support (such as make him OMB Director), his base would never allow it.
 
I hope thats for me :coolnana:

I appreciate that you don't agree with anything I say Chicago and thats ok. "Always Trumpers" attack anyone that says anything he thinks is wrong. The Republican party is not the party of old. Am I a "never Trumper". No. Do I like Trump. No. As a veteran of the US Air Force I would NOT be proud to salute for current commander-in-chief.
 
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He's really more of a moderate in tone and style, which means he's not a big dick-slapper. On policy, he was pretty conservative especially when he was on Capitol Hill. And literally nobody in the country has more credibility on the budget than he does. He was the real architect of the '90s balanced budgets.

Kasich was my type of Republican. That was before the social conservatives demanded extreme positions from the party a fiscal conservatism was abandoned.

I continue to support balanced budget legislation.
 
With the exception of McRaven, all have a personal problem with Trump and are all RINOs. I laugh that people call Powell a Republican - he has not voted for a Republican since he worked for Bush.
 
Hey Will I find it hard to believe you can say you’re not a never Trumper considering your expressed attitude. No offense intended but you’re last statement makes me wonder - about the saluting. I grant you it is easy to not like him but I hold Clinton as the sleaze standard holder and wonder if you would begrudge saluting him?
What is your impression of Trumps increase to military spending, getting us out of some of the s***holes of the world, and the recent peace initiative?
i am genuinely curious because I still hold to the opinion Trumps biggest issue stems from the political powers not wanting him to ‘rock’ their boat - still true in both parties. Durhams snail pace, Graham’s ineptitude, just go along with my thoughts. No one has ever faced the constant berating from the opposing party that Trump has endured. Even with the media consorting I cannot believe the GOP could not intercede successfully if their heart was in it.
No offense Will, I’m just curious. I value the perspective of our veterans and since I can no longer discuss with my dad I’m asking for your veteran viewpoint.
 
Trump has been horrible on spending and monetary policy.

He is mostly a 90s style Democrat. Very similar to Clinton in many ways. The big difference is the world around Clinton and the political culture in DC too.
 
Hey Will I find it hard to believe you can say you’re not a never Trumper considering your expressed attitude. No offense intended but you’re last statement makes me wonder - about the saluting. I grant you it is easy to not like him but I hold Clinton as the sleaze standard holder and wonder if you would begrudge saluting him?
What is your impression of Trumps increase to military spending, getting us out of some of the s***holes of the world, and the recent peace initiative?
i am genuinely curious because I still hold to the opinion Trumps biggest issue stems from the political powers not wanting him to ‘rock’ their boat - still true in both parties. Durhams snail pace, Graham’s ineptitude, just go along with my thoughts. No one has ever faced the constant berating from the opposing party that Trump has endured. Even with the media consorting I cannot believe the GOP could not intercede successfully if their heart was in it.
No offense Will, I’m just curious. I value the perspective of our veterans and since I can no longer discuss with my dad I’m asking for your veteran viewpoint.
I started my career under Clinton and I hold him in the highest regards of a scumbag. I meet him twice and it killed me to salute him. Dems and Reps always increase military spending its just what you hear from the MSM that Dems don't.

As a veteran of 7 deployments to Iraq and Afghanistan I'm glad Trump got us out. I was in Iraq at the start of the war and I still believe that we did good getting Saddam out (the Iraqi people wanted him gone). But as far as us being there for so long is ridiculous. Along with Afghanistan. To me its an unwinnable war. In my 25 years of special operations i spent my fair share of being in s***holes. We go in and get out.

This is where I AM a Never Trumper. He is incapable of being the commander-in-chief to me. His remark about John McCain will live with me forever as a veteran. He is scum. He was too big of a p***y to wear a uniform and says that about a war hero is total scum to me.

Trump does hit quite hard by the opposing party but he give them ammo everyday. Trump would win this election in a landslide if he got out of his own way.
 
So you like the things Trump has done but you hate him for words?
Seriously which is more important to you? A strong military or words?
 
So you like the things Trump has done but you hate him for words?
Seriously which is more important to you? A strong military or words?
It gives me pause that someone who claims to be so experienced in the military would be so hurt by mean words. I don't think they are mean, By the way, just going off what apparently seems to be the case here.
 
My take on the Communists National Convention is accurate and simple...

Cuomo....Blame Trump while he is the one guilty as sin of his own disastrous handling of the CCP virus

Mobama....Blame Trump while her party is guilty as sin for the chaos the country has endured the last 4 years

Everyone else at DNC...More of the same...
Blame Trump for everything they are responsible for

Democratic Party....Treasonous, self serving party whose acts to undermine a President they hate have violated every moral, ethical, and intellectual standard in undermining not a just a President, but the country itself.

The convention is smoke and mirrors, slight of hand, a charade of intellectual, moral and spiritual dishonesty...like everything else they do. A school of the disingenuous and deliberately malicious. Ends justify the means, relativist post modern crapism of the first order.

They have sold their souls at the alter of humanism, power, greed, control, godlessness and a degenerate persuasion to evil.

This election will give us a read as to what degree and % of population discernment still exists in our land.
It may be one of our last political requiems of reason, logic, right thought, knowledge, accurate information, and discernment.
Or it may be disaster....
 
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It gives me pause that someone who claims to be so experienced in the military would be so hurt by mean words. I don't think they are mean, By the way, just going off what apparently seems to be the case here.
They aren't mean cause you are brainwashed. Have you ever served our country?
 
They aren't mean cause you are brainwashed. Have you ever served our country?
Haha, you don't know what the hell you are talking about. Nope, never served. So what? Are you going to now come at me with an argument from authority?

You're trolling. I'm done replying to you.
 
So you like the things Trump has done but you hate him for words?
Seriously which is more important to you? A strong military or words?
Pulling us out of 2 conflicts is not going to win my vote. Its great for my brothers and sisters.
Haha, you don't know what the hell you are talking about. Nope, never served. So what? Are you going to now come at me with an argument from authority?

You're trolling. I'm done replying to you.
Good cause your mental exhausting with your stupidity
 
Are you saying having a CIC that is so supportive of the military and who has made sure MORE money is funneling to the military and who is always praising the military has resulted in lower morale?
Srsly??
 
Are you saying having a CIC that is so supportive of the military and who has made sure MORE money is funneling to the military and who is always praising the military has resulted in lower morale?
Srsly??
No offense but every politician praises the military. Its political suicide if they don't. We have always had the best of the best. Should I be happy that Trump throws billions more at the military?
 
Thanks for the response Will. Don’t think I agree on the statement all administrations increase the military ie, see Obama.
After I read the Outpost, and did a little study on the Tillman story I became absolute in my conviction we needed to get the h*** out of Afghanistan!
I’m sure I do not hold any position of respect by you because I did not serve either. My time was in the middle of Vietnam and I can honestly say my dad, a devoted Army officer (WW II) would not hear of me enlisting. Don’t get me wrong my scared a** was not hung ho to join anyway. I got my degree, got married, had a daughter - all the deferments. But I can tell you he was proud of me till he passed.
While I think your personal feelings may be misguided I can understand some of the intangibles against Trump and I respect your opinion. What I cannot wrap my head around is how anyone can believe we, indeed the entire country, would be better off with what is becoming the Democrat Socialist country. I pay what I must in taxes, I do not want to pay any more and I do cherish what freedoms we still have remaining to us.
 
So you don't care about a strong military?
What exactly do you care about?
We have a strong military. We have had a strong military. I served under 3 Presidents. They all provided a strong military so I don't know what you are trying to get at? You think Trump has done something so dramatic that other Presidents haven't? So I'm not sure where you are trying to go with this.....
 

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