2024 GOP Primary

[mchammer]

 

[mchammer]

 

[nashhorn]

And it’s still March, God help us with what will come before November. Gonna get really nasty.

 

[mchammer]

 

[mchammer]

And it’s still March, God help us with what will come before November. Gonna get really nasty.

I recommend a 6 month coma, if it can be arranged in advance.

 

[mchammer]

This is the No. 1 guy in Silicon Valley:

 

[mchammer]

Guys, no one is buying this **** anymore. Only way Dems win is massive cheating.

 

[Horn6721]

mc
Agree
But can we stop them?

 

[Horn2RunAgain]

Dems are in denial. They are in their bubble. Because of this, they won’t replace Biden because those fools actually think Biden will win.

Two months ago ex top clinton and Obama aides were all over msm shitting on Biden. They know he's in trouble. Then polls came out where kamala, newsom, Whitmer all polled worse than Joe. Reality hit em. Back him or else.

Still think he stumbles his words to the point of having to yank him at some point but no one carries his demx #s. It's mind boggling

 

[mchammer]

Two months ago ex top clinton and Obama aides were all over msm shitting on Biden. They know he's in trouble. Then polls came out where kamala, newsom, Whitmer all polled worse than Joe. Reality hit em. Back him or else.

Still think he stumbles his words to the point of having to yank him at some point but no one carries his demx #s. It's mind boggling

That requires facing reality. Dem voters will only face reality when Trump is being inaugurated.

 

[Run Pincher]

I do hope to God you're right, and I do hope Trump knows what's he's doing. However, it didn't work in 2020.

All I've seen all morning on any media source is Trump warns of bloodbath if he isn't elected. Nothing about the auto industry at all. Is the average Jane going to see Elon's post on X?? I think they're more likely to believe exactly what the MSM is telling them.

And although I can't stand these morons and hate referencing them, I just want to show some perspective and will probably never link this again. This is how many others see it and there's a lot more people there than there are here. And don't worry Dion, they'll never get a penny of my money even if somehow I'm able to get a decent job.
2024 Presidential Election Thread - Page 41 - Cloak Room - Surly Horns

Again, I really do hope I'm wrong.

 

[Mr. Deez]

I do hope to God you're right, and I do hope Trump knows what's he's doing. However, it didn't work in 2020.

All I've seen all morning on any media source is Trump warns of bloodbath if he isn't elected. Nothing about the auto industry at all. Is the average Jane going to see Elon's post on X?? I think they're more likely to believe exactly what the MSM is telling them.

And although I can't stand these morons and hate referencing them, I just want to show some perspective and will probably never link this again. This is how many others see it and there's a lot more people there than there are here. And don't worry Dion, they'll never get a penny of my money even if somehow I'm able to get a decent job.
2024 Presidential Election Thread - Page 41 - Cloak Room - Surly Horns

Again, I really do hope I'm wrong.

This is what Trump does. He says stupid **** that's very easy to attack - fairly or not. Our strategy is to hope that he does it so much that nobody really gets to focus on any one statement enough for it to make a difference. Of course the downside is that every day we're explaining crap like this away (or explaining away the indictments or the sexual abuse verdict) is a day we're not attacking Biden on the merits or promoting our policy agenda (if we have one). It's a stupid and to a great extent avoidable dilemma, but it's what our primary voters chose.

 

[ViperHorn]

He says stupid **** that's very easy to attack - fairly or not.

Trump should go into isolation without any communication equipment until after the election as that is his path to victory.

 

[mchammer]

I do hope to God you're right, and I do hope Trump knows what's he's doing. However, it didn't work in 2020.

All I've seen all morning on any media source is Trump warns of bloodbath if he isn't elected. Nothing about the auto industry at all. Is the average Jane going to see Elon's post on X?? I think they're more likely to believe exactly what the MSM is telling them.

And although I can't stand these morons and hate referencing them, I just want to show some perspective and will probably never link this again. This is how many others see it and there's a lot more people there than there are here. And don't worry Dion, they'll never get a penny of my money even if somehow I'm able to get a decent job.
2024 Presidential Election Thread - Page 41 - Cloak Room - Surly Horns

Again, I really do hope I'm wrong.

40% of the population has TDS, which is incurable. No use wasting mental energy on them.

 

[mchammer]

This is what Trump does. He says stupid **** that's very easy to attack - fairly or not. Our strategy is to hope that he does it so much that nobody really gets to focus on any one statement enough for it to make a difference. Of course the downside is that every day we're explaining crap like this away (or explaining away the indictments or the sexual abuse verdict) is a day we're not attacking Biden on the merits or promoting our policy agenda (if we have one). It's a stupid and to a great extent avoidable dilemma, but it's what our primary voters chose.

The alternate theory is that if the GOP had nominated someone else such as DeSantis, the general public may be more inclined to believe the media over new hoaxes related to DeSantis.

 

[Mr. Deez]

The alternate theory is that if the GOP had nominated someone else such as DeSantis, the general public may be more inclined to believe the media over new hoaxes related to DeSantis.

No serious person buys that. The media is no more credible when attacking RDS than when attacking Trump. In fact, RDS is FAR more effective in fighting the media.
Also, every "hoax" has been rooted in something stupid that Trump actually said or did. For example, the Bragg indictment is BS, but it arose from him banging a porn actress and paying her off - a stupid act that RDS or just about anyone with respectable judgment wouldn't have done.

 

[mchammer]

 

[mchammer]

No serious person buys that. The media is no more credible when attacking RDS than when attacking Trump. In fact, RDS is FAR more effective in fighting the media.
Also, every "hoax" has been rooted in something stupid that Trump actually said or did. For example, the Bragg indictment is BS, but it arose from him banging a porn actress and paying her off - a stupid act that RDS or just about anyone with respectable judgment wouldn't have done.

You are giving the media too little credit.

 

[Mr. Deez]

You are giving the media too little credit.

I give them zero credit. They'd go after RDS just as hard. They'd just have a lot less to work with.

 

[Run Pincher]

No serious person buys that. The media is no more credible when attacking RDS than when attacking Trump. In fact, RDS is FAR more effective in fighting the media.
Also, every "hoax" has been rooted in something stupid that Trump actually said or did. For example, the Bragg indictment is BS, but it arose from him banging a porn actress and paying her off - a stupid act that RDS or just about anyone with respectable judgment wouldn't have done.

Bingo! biden already using it.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/v...bath_quote_with_jews_will_not_replace_us.html

 

[mchammer]

 

[mchammer]

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/a...sults_encouraging_for_republicans_150668.html


GOP won the national congressional vote (and the House) in 2022 by 3%. Based on the 2024 CA primary, they are running 1% point better than 2022.

 

[Mr. Deez]

In the medium to long term, I think there are significant growth opportunities in California.

 

[Run Pincher]

More are realizing what a fascist Newsome is. A tax to leave the state, really?? I'm sure Stalin is proud.
California Exit Tax & Wealth Tax: What Is it & How it Applies to You (sambrotman.com)

 

[Monahorns]

More are realizing what a fascist Newsome is. A tax to leave the state, really?? I'm sure Stalin is proud.
California Exit Tax & Wealth Tax: What Is it & How it Applies to You (sambrotman.com)

It's worse if you want to leave the USA. They don't let you out unless you renounce citizenship and sometimes even then they don't. Then they tax you on the way out like CA.

 

[Horn6721]

Mona?
Since there are many Americans living out of USA but are still citizens I don't understand what you are saying.

 

[Sangre Naranjada]

Plenty of expats live happily outside the USA, still collect SS, and maintain citizenship. I'm not sure what Monahorns is referencing either.

 

[Vino Bevo]

Some of our best friends have been living in Spain for five years and maintain their US citizenship, earn SS, etc. They're happier than ever, so much so my wife and I are seriously contemplating joining them. Interested to hear what he's saying indeed...

 

[Run Pincher]

Some of our best friends have been living in Spain for five years and maintain their US citizenship, earn SS, etc. They're happier than ever, so much so my wife and I are seriously contemplating joining them. Interested to hear what he's saying indeed...

Portugal is supposed to be very nice and low cost. But I've never been there, or Spain. And neither has Three Dog Night.

 

[Vino Bevo]

We visited Portugal and Spain, including the town where our friends live, last summer for vacay as well as fact-finding and real estate and agree RP, Portugal is also fantastic. Could honesty live in either place.