2024 GOP Primary

mchammer said:
Dems are in denial. They are in their bubble. Because of this, they won’t replace Biden because those fools actually think Biden will win.
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Two months ago ex top clinton and Obama aides were all over msm shitting on Biden. They know he's in trouble. Then polls came out where kamala, newsom, Whitmer all polled worse than Joe. Reality hit em. Back him or else.

Still think he stumbles his words to the point of having to yank him at some point but no one carries his demx #s. It's mind boggling
 
Horn2RunAgain said:
Two months ago ex top clinton and Obama aides were all over msm shitting on Biden. They know he's in trouble. Then polls came out where kamala, newsom, Whitmer all polled worse than Joe. Reality hit em. Back him or else.

Still think he stumbles his words to the point of having to yank him at some point but no one carries his demx #s. It's mind boggling
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That requires facing reality. Dem voters will only face reality when Trump is being inaugurated.
 
mchammer said:
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I do hope to God you're right, and I do hope Trump knows what's he's doing. However, it didn't work in 2020.

All I've seen all morning on any media source is Trump warns of bloodbath if he isn't elected. Nothing about the auto industry at all. Is the average Jane going to see Elon's post on X?? I think they're more likely to believe exactly what the MSM is telling them.

And although I can't stand these morons and hate referencing them, I just want to show some perspective and will probably never link this again. This is how many others see it and there's a lot more people there than there are here. And don't worry Dion, they'll never get a penny of my money even if somehow I'm able to get a decent job.
2024 Presidential Election Thread - Page 41 - Cloak Room - Surly Horns

Again, I really do hope I'm wrong.
 
Run Pincher said:
I do hope to God you're right, and I do hope Trump knows what's he's doing. However, it didn't work in 2020.

All I've seen all morning on any media source is Trump warns of bloodbath if he isn't elected. Nothing about the auto industry at all. Is the average Jane going to see Elon's post on X?? I think they're more likely to believe exactly what the MSM is telling them.

And although I can't stand these morons and hate referencing them, I just want to show some perspective and will probably never link this again. This is how many others see it and there's a lot more people there than there are here. And don't worry Dion, they'll never get a penny of my money even if somehow I'm able to get a decent job.
2024 Presidential Election Thread - Page 41 - Cloak Room - Surly Horns

Again, I really do hope I'm wrong.
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This is what Trump does. He says stupid **** that's very easy to attack - fairly or not. Our strategy is to hope that he does it so much that nobody really gets to focus on any one statement enough for it to make a difference. Of course the downside is that every day we're explaining crap like this away (or explaining away the indictments or the sexual abuse verdict) is a day we're not attacking Biden on the merits or promoting our policy agenda (if we have one). It's a stupid and to a great extent avoidable dilemma, but it's what our primary voters chose.
 
Run Pincher said:
I do hope to God you're right, and I do hope Trump knows what's he's doing. However, it didn't work in 2020.

All I've seen all morning on any media source is Trump warns of bloodbath if he isn't elected. Nothing about the auto industry at all. Is the average Jane going to see Elon's post on X?? I think they're more likely to believe exactly what the MSM is telling them.

And although I can't stand these morons and hate referencing them, I just want to show some perspective and will probably never link this again. This is how many others see it and there's a lot more people there than there are here. And don't worry Dion, they'll never get a penny of my money even if somehow I'm able to get a decent job.
2024 Presidential Election Thread - Page 41 - Cloak Room - Surly Horns

Again, I really do hope I'm wrong.
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40% of the population has TDS, which is incurable. No use wasting mental energy on them.
 
Mr. Deez said:
This is what Trump does. He says stupid **** that's very easy to attack - fairly or not. Our strategy is to hope that he does it so much that nobody really gets to focus on any one statement enough for it to make a difference. Of course the downside is that every day we're explaining crap like this away (or explaining away the indictments or the sexual abuse verdict) is a day we're not attacking Biden on the merits or promoting our policy agenda (if we have one). It's a stupid and to a great extent avoidable dilemma, but it's what our primary voters chose.
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The alternate theory is that if the GOP had nominated someone else such as DeSantis, the general public may be more inclined to believe the media over new hoaxes related to DeSantis.
 
mchammer said:
The alternate theory is that if the GOP had nominated someone else such as DeSantis, the general public may be more inclined to believe the media over new hoaxes related to DeSantis.
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No serious person buys that. The media is no more credible when attacking RDS than when attacking Trump. In fact, RDS is FAR more effective in fighting the media.
Also, every "hoax" has been rooted in something stupid that Trump actually said or did. For example, the Bragg indictment is BS, but it arose from him banging a porn actress and paying her off - a stupid act that RDS or just about anyone with respectable judgment wouldn't have done.
 
Mr. Deez said:
No serious person buys that. The media is no more credible when attacking RDS than when attacking Trump. In fact, RDS is FAR more effective in fighting the media.
Also, every "hoax" has been rooted in something stupid that Trump actually said or did. For example, the Bragg indictment is BS, but it arose from him banging a porn actress and paying her off - a stupid act that RDS or just about anyone with respectable judgment wouldn't have done.
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You are giving the media too little credit.
 
Mr. Deez said:
No serious person buys that. The media is no more credible when attacking RDS than when attacking Trump. In fact, RDS is FAR more effective in fighting the media.
Also, every "hoax" has been rooted in something stupid that Trump actually said or did. For example, the Bragg indictment is BS, but it arose from him banging a porn actress and paying her off - a stupid act that RDS or just about anyone with respectable judgment wouldn't have done.
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Bingo! biden already using it.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/v...bath_quote_with_jews_will_not_replace_us.html
 
Some of our best friends have been living in Spain for five years and maintain their US citizenship, earn SS, etc. They're happier than ever, so much so my wife and I are seriously contemplating joining them. Interested to hear what he's saying indeed...
 
Vino Bevo said:
Some of our best friends have been living in Spain for five years and maintain their US citizenship, earn SS, etc. They're happier than ever, so much so my wife and I are seriously contemplating joining them. Interested to hear what he's saying indeed...
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Portugal is supposed to be very nice and low cost. But I've never been there, or Spain. And neither has Three Dog Night.
 
We visited Portugal and Spain, including the town where our friends live, last summer for vacay as well as fact-finding and real estate and agree RP, Portugal is also fantastic. Could honesty live in either place.
 
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