2022 House and Senate election

Disappointing and shocking that there are still that many Blue people in the USA, considering the s-show of the presidency and blue states.
But by trying to avoid Blue people in life, maybe I don’t realize how many there are?
 
Mr. Deez said:
I think it's a combination of things. I do think Trump's endorsement of some bad candidates hurt. (Though clearly non-Trump candidates didn't necessarily do well. See Colorado Senate race where O'Deay under-performed.) Being a carpetbagger clearly hurt Oz. However, there's no question that the very Trumpy Mastriano getting cock-slapped in the governor's race dragged Oz down.

Against entrenched Democratic incumbents in bluish states, you can't run candidates with narrow appeal and/or baggage like Boulduc, Walker, and Masters. To win in those states, you need to have more conventional candidates with clean histories, and you can't have division in the party. That clearly hurt us in Arizona and Georgia Senate race (but not the governor's race). By the way, though Trump certainly didn't help that problem in Arizona, he didn't start it. It goes back 20 years when McCain became a moderate and ran for President, and whatever is driving the pissing match between the McCain people and the Ward people needs to get resolved ASAP. The division and blowing statewide races is horse ****. By contrast, Laxalt (who's more conventional and doesn't divide his party) still has a chance to pickup Nevada.

I wish SCOTUS hadn't handed down Dobbs in an election year. It massively motivated Democrats, and it would have been nice to have an extra year for that to settle down and for the GOP to prove that the wailing and gnashing of teeth was overblown. No question that the unknown hurt us in places like AZ, MI, NH, and other places.

And let's not act like there are no upsides. We'll take the House, and that will end the dumpster fire at least to a significant degree. Furthermore, we grossly over performed in New York and Oregon. Even if we lost NY (and may lose Oregon), we showed that we can make those states close with strong candidates and a good message. With better dynamics, they are winnable. We just need to keep working in those states.
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As I said earlier we have to get of mail in ballots. If we can't do a red wave in this situation when can we do it?

Also, the odds of all of those machines in AZ failing at the same time probably wasn't a coincidence when the primary there ran smoothly.
 
As I said on here a few times before, Donald Trump single-handedly is giving the Senate to the Democrats. If the GOP had nominated competent people instead of Oz and Walker, they would have won control easily. He just values people who kiss his ***, not people who will win.
 
The next two years and maybe the next few years will be terrible financially and socially in America. More inflation and violence will escalate. You can credit liberals with what’s coming.
 
Murphy'sBoy said:
As I said on here a few times before, Donald Trump single-handedly is giving the Senate to the Democrats. If the GOP had nominated competent people instead of Oz and Walker, they would have won control easily. He just values people who kiss his ***, not people who will win.
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That is built on the premise that the people who voted Fetterman, have capable, solid decision-making ability.
I’d say if someone actually voted Fetterman, then they are plum nuts and you can’t fix them.
 
Mr. Deez said:
I think it's a combination of things. I do think Trump's endorsement of some bad candidates hurt.
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I do agree. While populists are far better candidates than establishment type republicans they can't win in certain places.

Oz is a RINO but the whole carpetbagger thing turned people off.
 
Creek said:
That is built on the premise that the people who voted Fetterman, have capable, solid decision-making ability.
I’d say if someone actually voted Fetterman, then they are plum nuts and you can’t fix them.
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May be able to apply that "L" word to those people, dontchathink?
 
Creek said:
That is built on the premise that the people who voted Fetterman, have capable, solid decision-making ability.
I’d say if someone actually voted Fetterman, then they are plum nuts and you can’t fix them.
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They are not nuts. Well, maybe they are but what they really are are Liberal obsessives who understand that Fetterman is a vote for Liberal initiatives. His hoodie and his inability to articulate a thought means nothing. This will be a made as instructed position and he'll vote straight party line. State reps no longer mean anything because they've centralized the power and coordinated it nation-wide.
 
bystander said:
They are not nuts. Well, maybe they are but what they really are are Liberal obsessives who understand that Fetterman is a vote for Liberal initiatives. His hoodie and his inability to articulate a thought means nothing. This will be a made as instructed position and he'll vote straight party line. State reps no longer mean anything because they've centralized the power and coordinated it nation-wide.
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Yeah...but they are also nuts for wanting liberal initiatives.
 
Man, what a disaster of an election. Should have been a red tidal wave with this blithering idiot in the white house. Hope everyone enjoys 100+ bbl oil for as far as the eye can see.

The only silver lining is that the Republicans were shown a harbinger of things to come if they nominate Trump in 2024.
 
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UTChE96 said:
Man, what a disaster of an election. Should have been a red tidal wave with this blithering idiot in the white house. Hope everyone enjoys 100+ bbl oil for as far as the eye can see.

The only silver lining is that the Republicans were shown a harbinger of things to come if they nominate Trump in 2024.
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It is pretty shocking. I'm afraid Liberalism has staying power. How can they survive this economy? I believe it's further evidence of the deep psychological weakness that exists in so many people. Their discontent has been sowed successfully. The social issues (localized in the hearts and minds of each Liberal) are paramount and nothing else matters. The national debt is an esoteric concept. It means nothing. So giving money away means nothing. They just want it. Executive Orders are only a "By any means necessary" middle finger to the Constitution. Wearing a hoodie everywhere shows an individual level of contempt for anything except making a personal statement. Everybody on the Left is a walking billboard of their grievances and demands. They live for it.

It's the only way they can overcome their inferiority complex. They must glorify their weaknesses or blame them on others.
 
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takeaways from the night...

1. Trump is an albatross at this point. He hampers a candidate's ability to win in the general. It will be even worse if he is actually on the ticket for POTUS
2. ban on abortion is a non-starter. GOP needs to take the RvW decision as a win and drop all the trigger laws, zero-tolerance and any talk of banning contraceptives. If that is your earnest desire, you'll need to give the current situation about 6-7 years to be accepted and then try to incrementally move the abortion window narrower.
3. McConnell knows what he is talking about when it comes to politics. you may not always like how he wields his power, but he is probably one of the savviest politicians in the game. we ignore him at our own peril.
 
As someone who is terrible at prognosticating these, just wanted to say here was my 10/19:
Horns11 said:
I think it's going to end in 50-50 again, with NV and PA swapping parties. Arizona seems like a done deal from those in the state, especially the ones who were fed up with the Maricopa County efforts. Trafalgar's social desirability bias was overweighted in AZ in 2020.
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People really got on board with the "social desirability indices" in polling after 2014 because it didn't predict anti-left results very well. Polls were still "close," but by adding a red lean, Trafalgar and Rasmussen became the savants of 2016.

One thing that I think they can't explain is the movement of people from one state to another or one congressional district to another. AZ is a good example of this... lots of blue people moving in.
 
When heating bills are through the roof and unemployment explodes this winter for Pennsylvania, I will simply laugh at those idiots who put Fetterman in the Senate.
 
Can’t be that many ‘move Ins’ to have made the election results what they were. it just blows my mind so many folks would vote in support of Biden which I take a Dem vote to be. I seriously do not get it.
 
This is predominately a right wing board, I get that. Abortion issue is a giant loser for the GOP, you are on the wrong side of a large majority of America. You also don't have a plan to fix anything, just good at complaining about the Dems when you offer no solutions, just ranting.
 
I didn’t really keep up, but was the Arizona election on the up and up? Saw a tweet last night about machines down all over the place. Or was this a legit L for GOP?
 
Another thing, if you are still in denial about Biden winning (the guy who got 7.5 million more votes than Trump), you are either delusional or just plain stupid.
 
nashhorn said:
Amen. We suck and it ain’t just Trump.
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it isn't "just trump" but for the last 3 elections it has been "mostly Trump". he wasn't wrong on all his actual POTUS actions for the country but he was wrong almost every time he waded into leading the party. He was/is toxic as a leader. He wanted obedience and fealty and when he didn't get it, he made it personal. That was and is a losing style.
 
Creek said:
That is built on the premise that the people who voted Fetterman, have capable, solid decision-making ability.
I’d say if someone actually voted Fetterman, then they are plum nuts and you can’t fix them.
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Part of the problem was their truly extended period of early voting...there were MANY reports of people who voted before the debate and who regretted their vote for Fetterman.

There needs to be two simple requirements...a debate is required before ANY voting period opens and early voting needs to be no more than two weeks in duration. PA had early voting that started in SEPTEMBER!
 
mb227 said:
Part of the problem was their truly extended period of early voting...there were MANY reports of people who voted before the debate and who regretted their vote for Fetterman.

There needs to be two simple requirements...a debate is required before ANY voting period opens and early voting needs to be no more than two weeks in duration. PA had early voting that started in SEPTEMBER!
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Sounds like Heisman voters.
 
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