2021 Recruiting - Football
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They did respond to a reporter about this and it was a business decision about putting OL in the NFL. Saban has a better record of that than we do. Part of that is he has had better lineman recruits than UT and thus pan out better. These kids see the draft. I get the push back from some on this board but those are emotional responses instead of business decisions. Yes Texas is a prestigous education, guessing Bama is not far behind. Either way its the kids choice and not ours/yours. Respect what they did and wish them the best. Hope Herman can get us where we all want and this will solve itself.
From 247 sports:
"A commitment decision will come Thursday from Andrew Mukuba, a 2021 four-star safety from Austin (Texas) LBJ among the top uncommitted prospects in the Lone Star State's senior class. The Central Texas standout is expected to make his decision public at 7 p.m. CDT Thursday."
BurntOrangeLH
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'Bama is still deep in the weeds compared to UT. Texas definitely the more prestigious school any where you look.
LH,
Been around here a long time; how many players have you seen use this Tier 1 education to vault into corporate America? 1 in 100; 1 in 200, 1 in 1,000?
Talking about Baker Botts; Mayer Brown Roe & Maw; Winstead, OR Peat, Ernst, Goldman Sachs, or any other Fortune 25 corporation with a route to the top? I can think of two and they are both in their 50s.
The difference in Tier 1 and Tier 2 or 3 for athletes is minuscule. Kids are about playing time, being on TV, and a route to the NFL. Maybe 1 in 50 care about academic standing.
For every Selvyn Young, there are 10,000 wannabes or don't know hows.
Been around here a long time; how many players have you seen use this Tier 1 education to vault into corporate America? 1 in 100; 1 in 200, 1 in 1,000?
Talking about Baker Botts; Mayer Brown Roe & Maw; Winstead, OR Peat, Ernst, Goldman Sachs, or any other Fortune 25 corporation with a route to the top? I can think of two and they are both in their 50s.
The difference in Tier 1 and Tier 2 or 3 for athletes is minuscule. Kids are about playing time, being on TV, and a route to the NFL. Maybe 1 in 50 care about academic standing.
For every Selvyn Young, there are 10,000 wannabes or don't know hows.
Run,
Harken back to one of DKR's greatest recruiting victories. Steve Worster pretty much destroyed a very good McKinney team in Waco for the 3A State Championship. Lots of offers. OA Phillips was well known in the Worster home. He was longtime friends with Chief Wilson, Worster's HS coach (I think they were teammates at SFA). When Worster was a sophomore, he sustained a rib injury and it was Paul Zeek, Bum's trainer, who made Steve a custom protector which allowed him to complete his season. Fast forward and Bum is at third ward recruiting Woo, whose girlfriend is enrolled at UH.
Bum told Steve, "Do not choose a school based on a coach because chances are he won't be there as long as you are"
True to his word, Bum was working for Sid Gilman in San Diego when Woo was winning a National Championship.
Mukuba to Clemson.
Geez, I hate to see this. I knew it was coming; still can't stand losing these local kids consistently to Clemson, Bama, etc.
BurntOrangeLH
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Is he truly local? His dad came here to coach. He did not grow-up here.
We are not elite. Everyone knows it.
BurntOrangeLH
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Listen to the commits to Texas. I would say about 50% cite the education. The mature guys who have their head on straight realize a boy's game is not for life. Education is an advantage for UT in recruiting young men who want to improve their lives. To their credit, many do want that.
Whatever became of the first black football recruit at UT? Did he succeed?
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He went to HS in Austin. And I mean the state of Texas when I typed local.
Let me restate: it makes me sick to keep losing Texas HS players to out of state schools.
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I know it
Yes, and every recruit going to Colorado AM&T cites they chose it because it has a nationally ranked psychology engineering film production school.
I dare say 100% of Texas recruits mention academics, but so does every recruit of every other school.
How many schools have a graduate with a NC ring and listed as one of Forbes Five Young Entrepreneurs? But Selvyn is an exception to the rule.
What ever happened to the first black Silver Spur?
I dare say 100% of Texas recruits mention academics, but so does every recruit of every other school.
How many schools have a graduate with a NC ring and listed as one of Forbes Five Young Entrepreneurs? But Selvyn is an exception to the rule.
What ever happened to the first black Silver Spur?
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BurntOrangeLH
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Define "elite," please. Are you a UT graduate?
BurntOrangeLH
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Going to school a few years in any state does not mean that person is from that state only.
A fan projecting his personal expectations upon any athlete is really not a particularly rewarding practice.
When the flagship of the state is losing the elite recruits from the same state then that's all I need to see.
I did not go to UT. I went to Trinity. Going to UT is not a pre-requisite for understanding reality.
Maybe I shouldn't have used the term "we're."
Joe Fan
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Since the article I posted by Justin Wells - "Tom Herman's Biggest Recruiting Wins at Texas" was so popular last time, I know give you the "Most Underrated, Under-Recruited Longhorns of the Last Decade."
Let the dumb arguments begin!
Let the dumb arguments begin!
1. Michael Dickson, P, Pro Kick (Australia)
The man from down under gets the top spot in our rankings. At 6-foot-3, 205 pounds, Dickson attended the Australian Institute of Sport in high school and was a member of the Pro Kick family. The Texas staff got some film of Dickson, and immediately invited him for an official visit in June of 2015. He was offered on the spot and committed six days later. Believe it or not, Texas was the NFL All-Pro's only offer. After garnering the Texas Bowl MVP and winning the Ray Guy Award in 2017, given to the nation's top punter, Dickson left after his junior season and the native of Sydney, Australia was selected by the Seattle Seahawks in the fifth round of the 2018 draft. - JW
2. Poona Ford, DT, Hilton Head (SC)
Too many people, including college coaches, saw a 5-foot-11 defensive tackle prospect and ran away. What Ford possessed was an otherworldly wingspan for a 5-foot-11 human being at nearly 81-inches, and explosive lower body power to go with the motor needed to be a quality DT. Hilton Head head coach B.J. Payne tried his best to convince national powers Ford could play at the highest level, and Charlie Strong was one of the few that listened and shared the same evaluation. Ford was so athletic, explosive and competitive in high school that he had the look of a player that could have been a tremendous fullback in the NFL in the 80’s and 90’s. - GH
3. D’Onta Foreman, RB, Texas City
Armanti was the more heavily recruited of the Foreman brothers, but that was due to academic questions and hurdles. D’Onta Foreman was a dominant player on the field south of Houston as a senior with more than 2,000 yards rushing in what would be a preview of things to come in Austin. In 2016, Foreman joined the list of college running backs to rush for more than 2,000 yards in a single season — and is one of the few to accomplish the feat with under ten Power 5 offers coming out of high school. - GH
4. Connor Williams, OL, Coppell
It might seem that a prospect with 29 offers isn't under-recruited, but the 6-foot-4, 265-pound composite three-star was the 79th ranked offensive tackle nationally, and 739th overall in the C/O 2015. His athleticism was noticed early, as he started as a freshman at a left tackle on his way to freshman All-America honors in 2015. He was a consensus All-American and Outland Trophy semifinalist in his sophomore year, and was selected by the Dallas Cowboys in the 2nd round of the 2018 draft following his junior season. He currently starts at left guard for the Cowboys. - JW
5. Sam Cosmi, OT, Humble Atascocita
Cosmi was underrated when he committed to the Houston Cougars prior to Tom Herman's hire in Austin. Cosmi chose the Cougars over Memphis at the time, and ended up being one of the most underrated players nationally in the 2017 class. His competitive mindset, good feet and body quickness, physicality and 80-inch wingspan have nearly been maximized to become a top three round draft pick in the upcoming NFL Draft. - GH
6. Lil'Jordan Humphrey, ATH/WR, Southlake Carroll
Many wondered, including myself, where Humphrey would play in college and if his playmaking talent could outweigh a negative or two in the equation. With the Longhorns underachieving on the field in recent years, Humphrey’s best offers were arguably Wisconsin and Washington. The lack of an offer from a top 10 program at the time left many wondering just what position Humphrey could play and be successful. Even for those that did offer, the Southlake Carroll jack-of-all-trades ascended past expectations. - GH
7 Charles Omenihu, DE, Rowlett
Omenihu went from a slightly stiff hipped senior to a 275-280-pound Big 12 Defensive Lineman of the Year in Austin. The Longhorns beat out Arizona State for the DFW area prospect with a high ceiling due to a terrific frame and a ridiculous 86-inch wingspan. All that Omenihu needed to do was unlock his vast potential, and understand what he had to do to maximize his potential. - GH
From three-star to starting defensive end for the Houston Texans. Not too bad. - JW
8. Geoff Swaim, TE, Butte College (CA)
The 6-foot-5, 250-pound three-star from Pleasant Valley HS was a standout linebacker his senior year. He then attended Butte College in Oroville, CA, signed with Texas, and enrolled early in 2013. He was a strong presence in the locker room and during his only media availability, once cursed to the reporters. His only offer listed was UT, and in 22 starts out of 26 games, he had 13 receptions for 84 yards and one touchdown. Swaim has turned in a decent professional career. He was drafted by the Dallas Cowboys in the 7th round of the 2015 draft, and currently plays for the Jacksonville Jaguars. - JW
9. Andrew Beck, TE, Plant (FL)
An Army All-American at linebacker in 2014, the 6-foot-3, 230-pounder moved to tight end in Austin. He held 15 offers, and committed to UT in April of 2013, a day after he named Stanford his leader. A three-star at Plant High School, he was the 66th ranked player in Florida his senior year. Beck brought stability to the tight end position during his time on the Forty Acres. An undrafted rookie free agent, he's since found a home with the Denver Broncos in the NFL. - JW
10 Blake Gideon, S, Leander
The son of a football coach, Gideon started as a true freshman at 6-foot-1, 190 pounds. The three-star held four offers including OU and Texas A&M after recording 300 tackles, 10 INTs, six forced fumbles, seven fumble recoveries, and 14 TDs at Leander. Staying close to home was always the move. The four-time All Big 12 honorable mention safety started all 52 games at UT, then played briefly for the Denver Broncos and Arizona Cardinals. He's since climbed the coaching ranks and is currently on Lane Kiffin's staff Ole Miss.
The man from down under gets the top spot in our rankings. At 6-foot-3, 205 pounds, Dickson attended the Australian Institute of Sport in high school and was a member of the Pro Kick family. The Texas staff got some film of Dickson, and immediately invited him for an official visit in June of 2015. He was offered on the spot and committed six days later. Believe it or not, Texas was the NFL All-Pro's only offer. After garnering the Texas Bowl MVP and winning the Ray Guy Award in 2017, given to the nation's top punter, Dickson left after his junior season and the native of Sydney, Australia was selected by the Seattle Seahawks in the fifth round of the 2018 draft. - JW
2. Poona Ford, DT, Hilton Head (SC)
Too many people, including college coaches, saw a 5-foot-11 defensive tackle prospect and ran away. What Ford possessed was an otherworldly wingspan for a 5-foot-11 human being at nearly 81-inches, and explosive lower body power to go with the motor needed to be a quality DT. Hilton Head head coach B.J. Payne tried his best to convince national powers Ford could play at the highest level, and Charlie Strong was one of the few that listened and shared the same evaluation. Ford was so athletic, explosive and competitive in high school that he had the look of a player that could have been a tremendous fullback in the NFL in the 80’s and 90’s. - GH
3. D’Onta Foreman, RB, Texas City
Armanti was the more heavily recruited of the Foreman brothers, but that was due to academic questions and hurdles. D’Onta Foreman was a dominant player on the field south of Houston as a senior with more than 2,000 yards rushing in what would be a preview of things to come in Austin. In 2016, Foreman joined the list of college running backs to rush for more than 2,000 yards in a single season — and is one of the few to accomplish the feat with under ten Power 5 offers coming out of high school. - GH
4. Connor Williams, OL, Coppell
It might seem that a prospect with 29 offers isn't under-recruited, but the 6-foot-4, 265-pound composite three-star was the 79th ranked offensive tackle nationally, and 739th overall in the C/O 2015. His athleticism was noticed early, as he started as a freshman at a left tackle on his way to freshman All-America honors in 2015. He was a consensus All-American and Outland Trophy semifinalist in his sophomore year, and was selected by the Dallas Cowboys in the 2nd round of the 2018 draft following his junior season. He currently starts at left guard for the Cowboys. - JW
5. Sam Cosmi, OT, Humble Atascocita
Cosmi was underrated when he committed to the Houston Cougars prior to Tom Herman's hire in Austin. Cosmi chose the Cougars over Memphis at the time, and ended up being one of the most underrated players nationally in the 2017 class. His competitive mindset, good feet and body quickness, physicality and 80-inch wingspan have nearly been maximized to become a top three round draft pick in the upcoming NFL Draft. - GH
6. Lil'Jordan Humphrey, ATH/WR, Southlake Carroll
Many wondered, including myself, where Humphrey would play in college and if his playmaking talent could outweigh a negative or two in the equation. With the Longhorns underachieving on the field in recent years, Humphrey’s best offers were arguably Wisconsin and Washington. The lack of an offer from a top 10 program at the time left many wondering just what position Humphrey could play and be successful. Even for those that did offer, the Southlake Carroll jack-of-all-trades ascended past expectations. - GH
7 Charles Omenihu, DE, Rowlett
Omenihu went from a slightly stiff hipped senior to a 275-280-pound Big 12 Defensive Lineman of the Year in Austin. The Longhorns beat out Arizona State for the DFW area prospect with a high ceiling due to a terrific frame and a ridiculous 86-inch wingspan. All that Omenihu needed to do was unlock his vast potential, and understand what he had to do to maximize his potential. - GH
From three-star to starting defensive end for the Houston Texans. Not too bad. - JW
8. Geoff Swaim, TE, Butte College (CA)
The 6-foot-5, 250-pound three-star from Pleasant Valley HS was a standout linebacker his senior year. He then attended Butte College in Oroville, CA, signed with Texas, and enrolled early in 2013. He was a strong presence in the locker room and during his only media availability, once cursed to the reporters. His only offer listed was UT, and in 22 starts out of 26 games, he had 13 receptions for 84 yards and one touchdown. Swaim has turned in a decent professional career. He was drafted by the Dallas Cowboys in the 7th round of the 2015 draft, and currently plays for the Jacksonville Jaguars. - JW
9. Andrew Beck, TE, Plant (FL)
An Army All-American at linebacker in 2014, the 6-foot-3, 230-pounder moved to tight end in Austin. He held 15 offers, and committed to UT in April of 2013, a day after he named Stanford his leader. A three-star at Plant High School, he was the 66th ranked player in Florida his senior year. Beck brought stability to the tight end position during his time on the Forty Acres. An undrafted rookie free agent, he's since found a home with the Denver Broncos in the NFL. - JW
10 Blake Gideon, S, Leander
The son of a football coach, Gideon started as a true freshman at 6-foot-1, 190 pounds. The three-star held four offers including OU and Texas A&M after recording 300 tackles, 10 INTs, six forced fumbles, seven fumble recoveries, and 14 TDs at Leander. Staying close to home was always the move. The four-time All Big 12 honorable mention safety started all 52 games at UT, then played briefly for the Denver Broncos and Arizona Cardinals. He's since climbed the coaching ranks and is currently on Lane Kiffin's staff Ole Miss.
Joe Fan
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Joe Fan
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Possibly in the game here too, eventhough it looks all Oregon
Dont'e Thornton, Mount Saint Joseph, Wide Receiver
Dont'e Thornton, Mount Saint Joseph, Wide Receiver
Joe Fan
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Somebody put in a CB to Texas for Colorado DE Arden Walker
Arden Walker, Cherry Creek, Strong-Side Defensive End
Arden Walker, Cherry Creek, Strong-Side Defensive End
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BurntOrangeLH
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So you are basically a spectator with no skin in the game. How is Trinity doing this year?
BurntOrangeLH
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I am thinking there are 5 starting UT safeties in the NFL? How many from Clemson?
BurntOrangeLH
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He is really tall, regardless. The Stork lives!
I'm sorry your feelings are hurt. If you can't take an objective opinion then just put me on ignore.
Bystander,
Thank you for being a Longhorn supporter even though you attended a school that many of our graduates and fans did not qualify to attend.
The University of Texas has a sizable number of donors and ticket holders who neither attended nor graduated from The University. We need their money and support.
Glad you are a fan, and thanks for your contributions to HornFans whether I always agree with you or not.
Thank you for being a Longhorn supporter even though you attended a school that many of our graduates and fans did not qualify to attend.
The University of Texas has a sizable number of donors and ticket holders who neither attended nor graduated from The University. We need their money and support.
Glad you are a fan, and thanks for your contributions to HornFans whether I always agree with you or not.
longhorn47
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S/O for the Ted Hendricks ref...
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