2021 Recruiting - Football

Joe Fan said:
Houston has the most players in the NFL. Here they all are

The NFL sent out a press release last week patting Houston on the back as the city with the most former high school players on NFL rosters this year.

I'm here to tell you, they undercounted ... severely.

The release said there are 24 players from Houston high school on NFL active rosters, beating out Miami, which has 19 homegrown players in the NFL. However, those numbers only count players from Houston proper, excluding those from places like Fort Bend ISD, Katy ISD and Conroe ISD.

When you lump all the players from Houston and its suburbs, there are 54 local players on active NFL rosters. If you want to throw in the likes of Brenham, Galveston and Angleton, you can get to more than 60 players. Counting the practice squad and injured reserve lists, there are 88 players from the Houston area currently in the NFL.

North Shore, Elkins and Bush have the biggest NFL representation with four players each currently on active NFL rosters.​
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Well folks...

That settles it once and for all. Greater Houston has the superior HS football, HS football talent, and HS football recruiting in this state. Even more so than DFW. (I've lived in both, so I'm just being objective).:rolleyes1:

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And don't anybody dare bring "East Texas" into the discussion...
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you start in the middle/Austin. If you go north, that's north Texas, east, that's east Texas, and so on....don't know why that's so difficult to understand...
 
Yeah, sure thing. It's just about Longitude, huh? If you talk about our Southlake, Angleton, or Cuero* players as being from "East Texas", people will look at you like you have 3 heads.

"don't know why that's so difficult to understand..."

*all 3 such places are located at a Longitude East of Austin.
 
zuckercanyon said:
you start in the middle/Austin. If you go north, that's north Texas, east, that's east Texas, and so on....don't know why that's so difficult to understand...
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Well that's not the best way to describe it cause you left out central texas. Should be a 80 to 100 mile buffer zone before you get into north east west south from Austin. Like you wouldn't call Johnson City west texas.
 
There's an ebb and flow to it all. During the early and mid Mack years, we dominated DFW, while the Ags, LSU, and others seemed to equal us (or better) in Greater Houston many years. Then, several years ago there was much consternation on these boards about Herman ceding DFW to the Sooners, Ags, and out-of-area powers. Some feared we were 'dead to Dallas.' I think Herman has re-planted our flag squarely in both DFW and Greater Houston. I don't see a weakness in one particular area of the State anymore. The main frustration now is watching the super-blues (5* and high 4* recruits) often go to out-of-area powerhouses like Bama, aOSU, Clemson, etc. (or even worse, to OU).
 
Pomspoms said:
Wow, I didn't know he decommited. That's good news. He would be another Coburn at least and coming in at the right time.
I absolutely hate our best recruits leaving the state! Hope we get this guy. Maybe he feels he was lied too about our guys not being made ready for the NFL. :thumbup:
Omenihu and Roach have been making plays in the NFL.
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Don't forget Poona Ford & Malcom Brown.
 
Chop said:
Yeah, sure thing. It's just about Longitude, huh? If you talk about our Southlake, Angleton, or Cuero* players as being from "East Texas", people will look at you like you have 3 heads.


"don't know why that's so difficult to understand..."

*all 3 such places are located at a Longitude East of Austin.
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It’s all about longitude...I’ll give the dissenters a little latitude....
 
Joe Fan said:
Max Merril measured 6'4, 262 with an 80-inch wingspan back in Feb 2020
Longer than Connor Williams
Assuming he adds weight, he will be good college OT size. But not really NFL OT size (would have to be a total badass)
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On another note, it sounds like Yurcich is now involving himself directly with OL recruiting

And FWIW Hand's contract goes thru 2021
 
Justin Wells: Tom Herman's Biggest Recruiting Wins at Texas
1 Quinn Ewers, QB, Southlake Carroll Class: 2022
The August 14th commitment from the nation's No. 1 ranked 2022 prospect instantly became the biggest win in the Tom Herman era in Austin. The reasons are obvious — quarterback from Lone Star State power Southlake Carroll wanted badly by rival Oklahoma, No. 1 overall in the country, hails from D/FW where top 2022 wide receivers are plentiful, and with Hudson Card solidifies the quarterback position in Austin until 2025. Not to mention more in terms of helping create momentum with positive national buzz. - GH
2 Caden Sterns, S, Cibolo Steele Class: 2018
I'll never forget that weekend. I believe most of the staff was out of town, but Craig Naivar hung around just in case a four-star safety from down the road made his secret journey to UT's campus. When he arrived, Texas could not have done a better job with the LSU pledge. Less than 24 hours later, and I was preparing a commit story that would rock this region. It was one of Herman's first big scores on the Forty Acres, and it also contributed to the massive 2018 momentum that cultivated into a top three recruiting class.- JW
3 Cam Rising, QB, Newbury Park (CA) Class: 2018
The flip of Cam Rising in late April 2017 was considered a massive win for Herman and staff due to a top flight national quarterback prospect flipping to the Longhorns from hated rival Oklahoma and Lincoln Riley. The commitment by Rising helped set the tables for a top 5 class. After a rough 2017 class in short order for Herman and staff, the 2018 class proved that Texas would become a recruiting force under Herman. - GH
Anyone remember the quote? It went something like "Then I got to Texas..." Rising could spin it with ease but Sam Ehlinger would be entrenched at quarterback. - JW
4 Bijan Robinson, RB, Salpointe Catholic (AZ) Class: 2020
Another roller coaster of a ride, but in the end, well worth it. Texas was on the Arizona high school star early and made a strong impression when he visited for the spring game. But Ohio State started pushing, and he hung out with a chunk of the Buckeyes' C/O 2020 at the Rivals Camp and some thought he'd be a Buckeye. But not Stan Drayton. He'd built a great relationship, and soon after Robinson remembered how much he enjoyed Austin. At that point, it was just get to National Signing Day. Mission accomplished. - JW
5 Junior Angilau, OG, East High (UT) Class: 2018
Pulling top talent out of the state of Utah over the likes of Oregon, UCLA, USC, Utah, and Washington isn’t exactly what the Texas program has been known for over the years. Add in that Angilau was one of the nation's top offensive guard prospects at a huge position of need at the time, and this immediately became one of Herman and staff’s biggest wins since arriving in Austin. - GH
Props to recruiting assistant/player personnel analyst Jake Langi in this pursuit. He was vital. - JW
6 Bru McCoy, WR, Mater Dei (CA) Class: 2019
Where do I begin? Let's start in the summer before his senior year. Texas had made a great impression on McCoy and his family, but he still seemed destined to stay closer to home at USC. Then the Army All American Bowl week arrives and he's very quiet about where he'd end up. He signed with Southern Cal and enrolled in January. Less than a week later, and he's thinking he made a mistake. Texas was his other choice, and after the big Sugar Bowl win over Georgia, had some serious mojo on the national level. McCoy would then turn the recruiting world upside down when he entered the NCAA Transfer Portal only weeks after becoming a Trojan. He arrived in Austin, went through spring ball, and was looking at minutes as a true freshman wideout. But in typical Bru style, he changed his mind, again. He went back home, re-enrolled at USC, and one of Herman's biggest wins became the poster child for the portal. - JW
7 Alfred Collins, DT, Bastrop Cedar Creek Class: 2020
Sure, Texas had connections with Collins being a legacy recruit, but that meant Collins was a “must win” and "can’t lose” prospect. He was coveted by Alabama, Oklahoma, Texas A&M and nearly every top program in the country. And with Texas being in the process of building the defensive line to the level needed to be a consistent top 10 program again, winning out for Collins was a huge win in football office. - GH
8 Joseph Ossai, DE/LB, Oak Ridge Class: 2018
The four-star outside linebacker from Conroe was another must-get for that vaunted 2018 cycle. Texas A&M was pushing and had similar success in that region, but Texas found a loophole - NCAA just approved the 10th assistant - that allowed recruiting director Bryan Carrington to get on the road and make home visits. Game-changer. Carrington attended Ossai's basketball game that night and visited with his folks for hours, which allowed Oscar Giles and the staff to close on one of the most important pieces of the 2018 class. - JW
9 Jake Smith, WR, Notre Dame Preparatory (AZ) Class: 2019
The Gatorade National Player of the Year out of Arizona had his pick of Pac 12 and national programs. While the Longhorns have dabbled in the state for years in recruiting, pulling one of the nation's top prospects from the state wasn’t considered likely with Texas not having inked a prospect from the state since the 2012 class (Connor Brewer). - GH
10 Anthony Cook, CB, Houston Lamar Class: 2018
This one was big for Herman because it was an early battle with his nemesis, Urban Meyer and Ohio State. Cook had offers from virtually everyone, but those two programs really stood out in the beginning. Herman couldn't let his former boss come into Houston and take the prized corner. After an interesting scene between Herman and Meyer at Texas Southern's satellite camp, Cook took a visit to Columbus. It was underwhelming at best, and this became a Texas-LSU fight. In the end, Cook inked with the good guys, but not after some serious work by the staff. - JW

Others receiving votes: BJ Foster, De’Gabriel Floyd, Ja’Tavion Sanders, Billy Bowman and Vernon Broughton​
 
Joe Fan said:
Justin Wells: Tom Herman's Biggest Recruiting Wins at Texas

4 Bijan Robinson, RB, Salpointe Catholic (AZ) Class: 2020
Another roller coaster of a ride, but in the end, well worth it. Texas was on the Arizona high school star early and made a strong impression when he visited for the spring game. ​
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Total Bull ****. Bijan did not put Texas on his top 5. His coach suggested he put Texas as #6. His coach mentioned to Bijan he was driving to Texas to see the Spring Game and asked if he would like to come along. Bijan said sure, why not. Bijan and coach show up on the sidelines along which Bijan met McConaughey without knowing who exactly he was. Bijan enjoyed his tour and met Herman and Drayton. The rest is history. At best, at that time, Bijan was an alternative to a couple of other RB including Evans whom they had on the board.
 
Joe Fan said:
You dont think landing Bijan was one of "Tom Herman's Biggest Recruiting Wins at Texas?"
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Recruiting win vs results on the field are two different things. Sure, we want the big splash get, but then it's a bonus if the player 1) gets on the field and 2) produces on the field. Jordan Whittington/Bijan Robinson/Bru McCoy/Jake Smith are examples. Whittington hurt again. Robinson may have just hurt himself against Tech/Bru USC migraines?/Jake Smith hamstring. Let's get the 5 stars and high 4s but it'd be nice to have some of these big gets get on and stay on the field.
 
Joe Fan said:
You dont think landing Bijan was one of "Tom Herman's Biggest Recruiting Wins at Texas?"
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Texas "was not on him early " was the whole point. Bijan's coach had a lot more to do with getting Bijan to Texas than the staff. As stated , Texas was not even in Bijan's Top 5. His coach advised him to add Texas as a #6.
 
BurntOrangeLH said:
Total Bull ****. Bijan did not put Texas on his top 5. His coach suggested he put Texas as #6. His coach mentioned to Bijan he was driving to Texas to see the Spring Game and asked if he would like to come along. Bijan said sure, why not. Bijan and coach show up on the sidelines along which Bijan met McConaughey without knowing who exactly he was. Bijan enjoyed his tour and met Herman and Drayton. The rest is history. At best, at that time, Bijan was an alternative to a couple of other RB including Evans whom they had on the board.
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Burnt, using this logic many of our top recruits are not here due to coaching influence and/or coaching hard work, etc.
For example, according to your reasoning, Sam E is here because his parents "suggested" he put on kid Longhorn uniforms when he was 3 years old, taught him to say "hook em horns" and kept doing this his entire life until he was offered a schollie; at which time he signed.

Same could be said for Ricky Williams. According to Ricky, Someone in California -- coach or family or friend--told him Texas would give him a chance to win a Heisman. When Mackovic offered, the heavy lifting had already been done and Ricky said OK.

Ewers, our latest 5 star commit, is basically the same story as Sam. Parents are huge Horn fans, have groomed Ewers since he could walk and talk. So when Herman offered, the heavy lifting had again been done by Dad and Mom.

Personally, I have to give the coaches some serious credit for closing all these deals. We sure give em grief when they can't close it in our favor.

We don't have to look too far to find examples of when parents raised a burnt orange bunch of kids and then the coach couldn't seal the deal with family and player and boom! Kid's wearing another college's colors. (does the initial "B" come to mind?)
 
caryhorn said:
Burnt, using this logic many of our top recruits are not here due to coaching influence and/or coaching hard work, etc.
For example, according to your reasoning, Sam E is here because his parents "suggested" he put on kid Longhorn uniforms when he was 3 years old, taught him to say "hook em horns" and kept doing this his entire life until he was offered a schollie; at which time he signed.

Same could be said for Ricky Williams. According to Ricky, Someone in California -- coach or family or friend--told him Texas would give him a chance to win a Heisman. When Mackovic offered, the heavy lifting had already been done and Ricky said OK.

Ewers, our latest 5 star commit, is basically the same story as Sam. Parents are huge Horn fans, have groomed Ewers since he could walk and talk. So when Herman offered, the heavy lifting had again been done by Dad and Mom.

Personally, I have to give the coaches some serious credit for closing all these deals. We sure give em grief when they can't close it in our favor.

We don't have to look too far to find examples of when parents raised a burnt orange bunch of kids and then the coach couldn't seal the deal with family and player and boom! Kid's wearing another college's colors. (does the initial "B" come to mind?)
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Jim Bertelsen had to send game time film to Royal to get noticed. Bijan, on the other hand, did not know anything about Texas so did not include Texas in his initial Top 5 until his coach suggested he should add Texas as #6.

It was not I who ascertained "Texas was all over Bijan early" so you rather missed the point that the commentator was in error, not the Texas coaching staff. No logic involved, just facts. Doubtless Beck told Herman and Drayton that there is this RB in AZ of whom UT should be aware, after which they were as kind of a back up to higher RB targets on the board. Not until after Bijan's coach basically drove him to Austin for that wind blown Spring Game did Texas offer.

To summarize,. Bijan had no idea what Texas was in football and Texas was not involved actively with him until after his Salpointe football coach drove him to Memorial Stadium for the Spring Game. Then there is the unquantifiable McConaughey factor, but once again, neither party knew who the other was initially when they met on the sideline, except for the Salpointe coach.

Bijan's coach was directly and solely responsible for getting Bijan to consider Texas. No one else.
 
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zuckercanyon said:
Recruiting win vs results on the field are two different things. Sure, we want the big splash get, but then it's a bonus if the player 1) gets on the field and 2) produces on the field. Jordan Whittington/Bijan Robinson/Bru McCoy/Jake Smith are examples. Whittington hurt again. Robinson may have just hurt himself against Tech/Bru USC migraines?/Jake Smith hamstring. Let's get the 5 stars and high 4s but it'd be nice to have some of these big gets get on and stay on the field.
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The article title and subject is "recruiting wins."
Robinson was our only 5-star of the 2020 class and was the #1 ranked RB in the country per the 247 Composite. How many #1 ranked RBs do you think we've ever had?
It was a recruiting win no matter how you dissect it.
 
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