2020 Senate & House

OUBubba said:
The beauty of our system is that it is managed by the counties and is difficult to hack en masse.
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The wide use of Dominion, Smartmatic and Scytl fixed that issue
Did you know was created to produce altered votes Hugo Chavez in VZ?
 
Each day that passes and it seems less likely Biden won legitimately

The latest installment is that Republicans won all 27 "toss up" races
100% of all toss-races and Trump lost?'
Come on man!



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Assume that both GA seats stay Repub and the AZ seats for Dem.

52 Rep and 48 Dem in the new Senate.

Does that make the Rep Gang of 3 moderates - Collins, Romney and Murkowski the new swing votes?

See the Fed nomination of July Shelton ruling today.
 
Clean said:
Our voting system is a disgrace and will be for the foreseeable future. The Dems want to keep it as loosey goosey as possible so that they can play their games. If they win, it was a fair election, so what's the problem? If they lose, it must be Russian collusion.
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Was our voting system a joke when Trump beat Hillary? Or are the Rs winning down ballots are those not legit now?
 
I do think we'll take the Georgia senate seats, but we better not be complacent. Link. I think this guy makes some worthwhile points, and he's generally a fair assessor of political races. He's not a hack.
 
Clean said:
Here, go read how two Republicans were brow beaten into certifying the Michigan results by charges of racism and physical threats.

Pretty sure nobody cheated for Trump in 2016. He must have really won by a landslide.

Michigan’s Wayne County certification deadlock leads to unanimous certification after allegations of racism
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So there was no "cheating" 4 years ago but now there, according to this board, is massive/widespread election fraud? Funny how that works.
 
So there was no "cheating" 4 years ago but now there, according to this board, is massive/widespread election fraud? Funny how that works.
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But you believe there was cheating 4 years ago in Trump's favor, but now you say some cheating but not enough to create Biden victory. Sauce for the gander.
 
Will
Are you saying because there was no scrutiny 4 years ago there should not be now?
What exactly is your point?
I would hope you would want to make sure elections are about counting legal votes
Maybe it should have happened 4 yrs ago
But it didn't. It is happening now.
 
Horn6721 said:
Will
Are you saying because there was no scrutiny 4 years ago there should not be now?
What exactly is your point?
I would hope you would want to make sure elections are about counting legal votes
Maybe it should have happened 4 yrs ago
But it didn't. It is happening now.
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Its happening now because Trump lost (popular votes and electoral votes). Because he lost now the right wing conspiracy theories run rapid all thanks to Trumps tweets and his own mind he still won (and Trump supporters minds). Right wingers have to find some excuse to his loss. In the circles it is unbelievable, something or someone rigged it so he would lose. It is inconceivable to not have him for another 4 years. Again, I voted for the man, but this **** is childish and ya'll need to move on. Trump needs to do the same thing. He is only hurting himself and the country by not letting the transition happen right now. He will be the coward he is to the end. On Jan 20th, instead of being in DC and handing over the Office to the next President (like a true leader should), he will be in Florida or at a "rally" of his supporters telling them that he still won and the inauguration is a fraud. There is no widespread voter fraud. There is no "smoking gun". Sure there are errors (human and nonhuman) in EVERY election. But come on...
 
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Phil Elliott said:
But you believe there was cheating 4 years ago in Trump's favor, but now you say some cheating but not enough to create Biden victory. Sauce for the gander.
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Did I say that there was "cheating" 4 years ago?.....No I did not. And I do not believe there was widespread cheating now, as many on this board ascertain.
 
There is another video showing that the discrepancies in Michigan are explained best by an algorithm shifting votes from Trump to Biden. Take a look.



So if the use of a vote shifting algorithm can be linked to the voting anomalies I have shown, then that would be evidence of fraud.
 
Its happening now because Trump lost (popular votes and electoral votes). Because he lost now the right wing conspiracy theories run rapid all thanks to Trumps tweets and his own mind he still won (and Trump supporters minds).
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I guess you are not counting the 4 years of the left screaming that Russia stole the election for Trump and the 3 year taxpayer-funded investigation when you say it's only happening now from the right?
 
Phil Elliott said:
I guess you are not counting the 4 years of the left screaming that Russia stole the election for Trump and the 3 year taxpayer-funded investigation when you say it's only happening now from the right?
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:tap: The Russian hoax has nothing to do with what I wrote. But it is typical retort from the ultra-Republicans so I should not be surprised. Zero substance on the statement that lay in front of you. Trump still claiming victory and you spin it (not even well I might add) to the Russian hoax.....:clap:
 
Phil Elliott said:
But you believe there was cheating 4 years ago in Trump's favor, but now you say some cheating but not enough to create Biden victory. Sauce for the gander.
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I don't think there was massive cheating 4 years ago. I think Trump's people were surprised how much some (think Vlad) didn't want HRC to win and said "sure here's some stuff, do your thing". While that's psy-ops and possibly unethical it's not "cheating in the election".

It's funny that this guy was a HORRIBLE candidate who said things in swing states like "I didn't plan on coming to Erie, but, here I am" All while in the midst of a global pandemic that he peed down his leg (avid anti mask wearer, made fun of biden for wearing a mask and then became a superspreader in the actual WHITE HOUSE) with 230k passing away and your shocked that he lost but down ballot people won?

A portion of people crossed the line to vote against HRC 4 years ago. They came home. A portion of people crossed the line this time to vote against this dude. Makes sense to me.
 
WillUSAF said:
:tap: The Russian hoax has nothing to do with what I wrote. But it is typical retort from the ultra-Republicans so I should not be surprised. Zero substance on the statement that lay in front of you. Trump still claiming victory and you spin it (not even well I might add) to the Russian hoax.....:clap:
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I think the reason for bringing up the Russian hoax is because both sides are in a knife fight for power and they don't want to accept election results. The Left put the country through the Mueller Report saga and the impeachment. They did it arrogantly, sanctimoniously and without apology. To get mad at Trump versus what happened back then is ridiculous. Sure, he needs to get over it but the Left refused to accept losing for the entire four years. In fact, it was so bad that your applause emoji is a joke.
 
bystander said:
I think the reason for bringing up the Russian hoax is because both sides are in a knife fight for power and they don't want to accept election results. The Left put the country through the Mueller Report saga and the impeachment. They did it arrogantly, sanctimoniously and without apology. To get mad at Trump versus what happened back then is ridiculous. Sure, he needs to get over it but the Left refused to accept losing for the entire four years. In fact, it was so bad that your applause emoji is a joke.
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First off the applause emoji is for the attempt to spin not for the hoax. I did not agree with it (the impeachment) then and I don't now. I think that Nadler and Schiff should at expelled from Congress. But Pelosi will not let that happen.
Sure the left refused to accept the Clinton loss. Does that merit Trumps behavior? No. So with what you are saying is that since the left came up with tons of false conspiracies' (which they all were) that that gives the right the excuse to find theirs now? tit for tat....
 
WillUSAF said:
First off the applause emoji is for the attempt to spin not for the hoax. I did not agree with it (the impeachment) then and I don't now. I think that Nadler and Schiff should at expelled from Congress. But Pelosi will not let that happen.
Sure the left refused to accept the Clinton loss. Does that merit Trumps behavior? No. So with what you are saying is that since the left came up with tons of false conspiracies' (which they all were) that that gives the right the excuse to find theirs now? tit for tat....
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It does not give them an excuse in a purely Constitutional sense. But in the political climate of today, questioning the results in several very close vote counts is hardly anything to question as compared to what happened.

Should Trump trust the process even when we know mistakes are made? Sure. Why not. Now what about what the Left did? It was swept under the rug as was Hunter. It's all so ridiculous to me. The haughty elitism of the Left is sick. That's my opinion.
 
You know Bubba sometimes I do find yours posts in lightening - sometimes so don’t get me wrong here (jk you) - and the last one did give me pause. I’ve said elsewhere the raw increase in votes for Biden is why I question the validity of results but you put forth some considerations meaningful to the opposition.
There are just so many things that smell funny I cannot completely buy the aspect of no chicanery but I do think it’s time to bite the proverbial bullet and work the transition. My wife will kill me if she hears me say that but put me in the bag of so fed up with everything I’m giving up the fight. I truly do fear for what Kamala et al, will bring to my Country.
 
bystander said:
It does not give them an excuse in a purely Constitutional sense. But in the political climate of today, questioning the results in several very close vote counts is hardly anything to question as compared to what happened.

Should Trump trust the process even when we know mistakes are made? Sure. Why not. Now what about what the Left did? It was swept under the rug as was Hunter. It's all so ridiculous to me. The haughty elitism of the Left is sick. That's my opinion.
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The elitism of the left and right are both sicken.
 
WillUSAF said:
First off the applause emoji is for the attempt to spin not for the hoax. I did not agree with it (the impeachment) then and I don't now. I think that Nadler and Schiff should at expelled from Congress. But Pelosi will not let that happen.
Sure the left refused to accept the Clinton loss. Does that merit Trumps behavior? No. So with what you are saying is that since the left came up with tons of false conspiracies' (which they all were) that that gives the right the excuse to find theirs now? tit for tat....
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She conceded that night.
 
nashhorn said:
You know Bubba sometimes I do find yours posts in lightening - sometimes so don’t get me wrong here (jk you) - and the last one did give me pause. I’ve said elsewhere the raw increase in votes for Biden is why I question the validity of results but you put forth some considerations meaningful to the opposition.
There are just so many things that smell funny I cannot completely buy the aspect of no chicanery but I do think it’s time to bite the proverbial bullet and work the transition. My wife will kill me if she hears me say that but put me in the bag of so fed up with everything I’m giving up the fight. I truly do fear for what Kamala et al, will bring to my Country.
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More elderly blacks voted early in Texas and Georgia than voted in the 2016 election. Another data point. There was a motivation for change, and not the MAGA kind.

the right got new voters out as well.

Goals from the Trump campaign in 2016 was to discourage people from voting. They succeeded.
 
Trump won last time because the Russkies hacked the voting system and Biden won this time because the Chinese hacked it to get back at Trump for all the mean things he was saying about them. It is all so clear that I find it hard to believe you guys are arguing about it.

Bonus info: Custer attacked the Lakota on land that belonged to the Crow nation with their full support but against their advice. The Lakota were trespassers and deserved the whipping he had planned for them. The Russians warned the Lakota and so they won.
 
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