2020 Presidential Election: let the jockeying commence

OUBubba said:
You opined that Trump wasn't concerned with Biden. The "transcript" and the text messages of the minions indicate that you're wrong.
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Have you noticed the others on your side has decided to stay away from this topic of the transcript now. I wonder why? Are you just not catching on?
 
I35 said:
Have you noticed the others on your side has decided to stay away from this topic of the transcript now. I wonder why? Are you just not catching on?
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Until someone that's not Gym Jordan, Trump or Mulvaney says here is the full transcript and someone like Nadler concurs that it is complete then there's a question. It's already been proven to be not "word for word, comma for comma" as the President stated.
 
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OUBubba said:
Until someone that's not Gym Jordan, Trump or Mulvaney says here is the full transcript and someone like Nadler concurs that it is complete then there's a question. ...
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Wake up and smell the covfefe, not many on your side think much of Nadler any more. He went on and on for months about Russia, with zero actual proof. Then Mueller said, "well, actually ...."
Seriously, why do you think Pelosi took "impeachment" away from him and gave it to Schiff? She personally did that.
 
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OUBubba said:
Until someone that's not Gym Jordan, Trump or Mulvaney says here is the full transcript and someone like Nadler concurs that it is complete then there's a question. It's already been proven to be not "word for word, comma for comma" as the President stated.
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Bubba, you said the same thing about Russia collusion because of Schiffs claims there is lots of evidence. You said “Until I hear from Mueller say other wise blah blah blah”. Well Adam Schiff happens to be leading this nonsense as well. Oh and nothing has been proven as much as you’d like to believe.
 
I35 said:
Bubba, you said the same thing about Russia collusion because of Schiffs claims there is lots of evidence. You said “Until I hear from Mueller say other wise blah blah blah”. Well Adam Schiff happens to be leading this nonsense as well. Oh and nothing has been proven as much as you’d like to believe.
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There are a lot of little boys crying wolf online, in the House, and in the media.

They're getting their impeachment, it's only a formality. The price they pay for it won't be to their liking. The people who actually decide elections (the middle) see right through this.
 
Horn2RunAgain said:
There are a lot of little boys crying wolf online, in the House, and in the media.

They're getting their impeachment, it's only a formality. The price they pay for it won't be to their liking. The people who actually decide elections (the middle) see right through this.
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I believe they made it a certainty that Trump gets re-elected, a certainty that the Republican Senate remains in power, and a very high probability that the Republicans reclaim the House. They will regret these games they’ve been playing. Not to mention how much they have divided America.
 
OUBubba said:
Until someone that's not Gym Jordan, Trump or Mulvaney says here is the full transcript and someone like Nadler concurs that it is complete then there's a question. ...
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Since you put so much faith in Nadler, here he is in 1998 --

“There must never be ... an impeachment supported by [only] one of our major political parties .. Such an impeachment will produce divisiveness and bitterness in our politics for years to come, and will call into question the very legitimacy of our political institutions”​

 
Joe Fan said:
Since you put so much faith in Nadler, here he is in 1998 --

“There must never be ... an impeachment supported by [only] one of our major political parties .. Such an impeachment will produce divisiveness and bitterness in our politics for years to come, and will call into question the very legitimacy of our political institutions”​

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So we're doing this now?

Lindsey Graham in 1998: Ignoring Subpoenas Impeachable

GOP Leader Once Argued Impeaching a President Doesn’t Require a Criminal Conviction

“if this body [Congress] determines that your conduct as a public official is clearly out of bounds in your role . . . because impeachment is not about punishment. Impeachment is about cleansing the office. Impeachment is about restoring honor and integrity to the office.”
 
OUBubba said:
So we're doing this now?

Lindsey Graham in 1998: Ignoring Subpoenas Impeachable

GOP Leader Once Argued Impeaching a President Doesn’t Require a Criminal Conviction

“if this body [Congress] determines that your conduct as a public official is clearly out of bounds in your role . . . because impeachment is not about punishment. Impeachment is about cleansing the office. Impeachment is about restoring honor and integrity to the office.”
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Whoever said impeachment requires a criminal conviction?

And if you really want Lindsey, you can have him. I will accept Blue Bell in return
 
This was probably said in jest, but after what they have been doing the last 3 years, I will be making this push immediately upon the next general election a Dem wins (assuming it happens)

 
Beto is formally out
Which raises the question of whether he was ever really in?
And which also perhaps answers the question of where the spending limit would be for his billionaire father in law


Texas Dems dont even like him -- maybe they want to keep their guns too?
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Joe Fan said:
This is Marxism
She is done
Anyone disagree?

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Warren says her agenda to provide amnesty to all 11-22 million (depending on whom you believe) illegal aliens living in the United States and driving up legal immigration levels will help pay for her “Medicare for All” plan.

Here scheme is to (a) end all private health insurance -- stripping 10s of millions of Americans of their negotiated healthcare plans; (b) enacting a Medicare for All program, which would force all taxpayers onto public healthcare plans; and (c) paying for the $52 trillion plan by driving up the population of the US to the highest levels possible to increase federal tax revenue. So her plan not only hinges on amnesty for all illegal aliens but increasing illegal immigration to the highest levels in history.

 
Joe Fan said:
Warren says her agenda to provide amnesty to all 11-22 million (depending on whom you believe) illegal aliens living in the United States and driving up legal immigration levels will help pay for her “Medicare for All” plan.

Here scheme is to (a) end all private health insurance -- stripping 10s of millions of Americans of their negotiated healthcare plans; (b) enacting a Medicare for All program, which would force all taxpayers onto public healthcare plans; and (c) paying for the $52 trillion plan by driving up the population of the US to the highest levels possible to increase federal tax revenue. So her plan not only hinges on amnesty for all illegal aliens but increasing illegal immigration to the highest levels in history.

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I think Fauxcahontas jumped a not a shark but a whale.
Who vets her crazy programs? This illegal amnesty one is the craziest yet.
 
Q: Where do those who work in health insurance go when private insurance is eliminated? Sen. Warren: "No one gets left behind. Some of the people currently working in health insurance will work in other parts of insurance. In life insurance, in auto insurance, in car insurance."

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Uh Liz, auto and car insurance are usually one category. Unless a defender of hers thinks auto is pick ups, SUVs vans etc. and car insurance are only sports and sedans. Because people in insurance who do car insurance do not do auto.:rolleyes1:

Beyond that does she think we are that stupid?
 
Here is another part of Warren's $52 Trillion healthcare plan
Not sure if this would be consistent with the Constitution

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