2020 Presidential Election: let the jockeying commence
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And without evidence, those were stupid, self-serving conspiracy theories just as these are. So is the goal to be as pitiful and dumb as the news media was four years ago? We're being more ridiculous than Stacey Abrams.
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There have been numerous instances of ballots not being counted and very strange statistical anomalies.
I don’t know who to believe. There simply is no reliable news source at this point. While I want Trump over Harris, if the SCOTUS gives it to Trump, legitimately or not, there will be blood in the streets.
I don’t know who to believe. There simply is no reliable news source at this point. While I want Trump over Harris, if the SCOTUS gives it to Trump, legitimately or not, there will be blood in the streets.
I lived for a while in Jim Wells County where a Senatorial election was decided in 1948 by a couple of hundred paper ballots that came in late and which included some voters who were dead and all of whom voted in alphabetical order and had the same handwriting
nothing is foolproof I guess
nothing is foolproof I guess
Joe Fan
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Back in 2017, even CNN was concerned about voting machine hacking
The silence from them this year shows they only care about hacking if they think their preferred candidate might be a victim of it
If their candidate benefits from hacking, they could care less and have absolutely nothing to say (just like certain posters herein)
America deserves better media than it gets
The silence from them this year shows they only care about hacking if they think their preferred candidate might be a victim of it
If their candidate benefits from hacking, they could care less and have absolutely nothing to say (just like certain posters herein)
America deserves better media than it gets
Joe Fan
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As recent as Oct 2020, PBS (of all people) was very concerned with voting machine integrity in Georgia
But now that they think Biden won, they have absolutely nothing to say about the machines. Just silence
This briefly explains how GA went from corrupt Diebold machines to corrupt Dominion machines
But now that they think Biden won, they have absolutely nothing to say about the machines. Just silence
This briefly explains how GA went from corrupt Diebold machines to corrupt Dominion machines
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Joe Fan
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The PBS report in 2020
The DefCon material is either from their 2017, 2018 or 2019 conferences
After Trump won 2016, liberal media interest in vote fraud was high, which is why you see them producing these stories in this time period
Today it is nonexistent, go figure
The Princeton prof is 2008, although he is still around and still sounding the same alarm
Joe Fan
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It wasn't just media either, of course
I previously posted in here the letter from Democratic politicians Sen Elizabeth Warren, Sen Ron Wyden, Sen Amy Klobuchar and Congressman Mark Pocan warning about reports of machines “switching votes,” “undisclosed vulnerabilities,” and “improbable” results that “threaten the integrity of our elections.” They sent this less than a year ago
"These problems threaten the integrity of our elections.
Today, of course, they are completely silent.
The pdf of the full letters is below. You will note that the third letter down is directed to Staple Street, a major investor in Dominion Voting Systems, and is specifically about their concerns with Dominion machines.
https://www.warren.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/H.I.G. McCarthy, & Staple Street letters.pdf
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They stayed silent when the DNC rigged 2016 for Hillary to get the nomination. Why would they say anything now?It wasn't just media either, of course
I previously posted in here the letter from Democratic politicians Sen Elizabeth Warren, Sen Ron Wyden, Sen Amy Klobuchar and Congressman Mark Pocan warning about reports of machines “switching votes,” “undisclosed vulnerabilities,” and “improbable” results that “threaten the integrity of our elections.”
"These problems threaten the integrity of our elections.
Today, of course, they are completely silent.
The pdf of the full letters is below. You will note that the third letter down is directed to Staple Street, a major investor in Dominion Voting Systems, and is specifically about their concerns with Dominion machines.
https://www.warren.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/H.I.G. McCarthy, & Staple Street letters.pdf
Joe Fan
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The software in Georgia's new Dominion voting machines was "updated" right before the election. This report is from October. The machines were also updated the day before the election, if you can believe it
Even Politico concedes this latter point. They even note subsequent machine glitches were "unexplained." But, of course, now that Politico thinks their guy won, they have dropped the reporting on this issue, and no one from Dominion is around to explain what they were uploading into the machines the night before the election. And, thus, a cloud of doubt hangs over this entire election
Cause of Election Day glitch in Georgia counties still unexplained
Even Politico concedes this latter point. They even note subsequent machine glitches were "unexplained." But, of course, now that Politico thinks their guy won, they have dropped the reporting on this issue, and no one from Dominion is around to explain what they were uploading into the machines the night before the election. And, thus, a cloud of doubt hangs over this entire election
" ... Ridley initially told POLITICO on Nov. 3 that Dominion, which prepares the poll books for counties before elections, “uploaded something last night, which is not normal, and it caused a glitch.” The glitch prevented poll workers from programming the voter smart cards for the voting machines.
In her initial comments last week, Ridley said that a representative for the two companies called her office after poll workers began having problems with the equipment on the morning of the election. The representative said at the time that the problem was due to an upload to the machines by one of their technicians overnight, Ridley told POLITICO.
“That is something that they don’t ever do. I’ve never seen them update anything the day before the election,” Ridley said. Ridley said at the time that she did not know what the upload contained. She also said that to fix the issue, Dominion sent three technicians on Election Day, who traveled to each precinct in her county to make a second software update to the poll books....."
In her initial comments last week, Ridley said that a representative for the two companies called her office after poll workers began having problems with the equipment on the morning of the election. The representative said at the time that the problem was due to an upload to the machines by one of their technicians overnight, Ridley told POLITICO.
“That is something that they don’t ever do. I’ve never seen them update anything the day before the election,” Ridley said. Ridley said at the time that she did not know what the upload contained. She also said that to fix the issue, Dominion sent three technicians on Election Day, who traveled to each precinct in her county to make a second software update to the poll books....."
Cause of Election Day glitch in Georgia counties still unexplained
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Joe Fan
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Before this election, back when they were still worried about "Russia," HBO (of all people) was so concerned about voting machine integrity, they made a documentary about it
In advance of the 2020 Presidential Election, Kill Chain: The Cyber War on America’s Elections takes a deep dive into the weaknesses of today’s election technology, an issue that is little understood by the public or even lawmakers.
From directors Simon Ardizzone, Russell Michaels and Sarah Teale, the team behind HBO’s 2006 Emmy-nominated documentary Hacking Democracy, Kill Chain again follows Finnish hacker and cyber security expert Harri Hursti as he travels across the U.S. and around the world to show how our election systems remain unprotected, with very little accountability or transparency. Hursti’s eye-opening journey is supplemented by candid interviews with key figures in the election security community, as well as cyber experts and U.S. senators from both parties who are fighting to secure the integrity of the vote before November 2020.
As the film shows, individuals, foreign states and other bad actors can employ a myriad of techniques to gain access to voting systems at any stage – from voter registration databases to actual election results.
Through this lens, seemingly unrelated or uncoordinated security breaches of the recent past can be seen as part of a “kill chain” – a military doctrine to plot meticulous, long-game attacks, understanding that breaking down trust in voting results is the surest way to undermine democracy. As enlightening as it is disturbing, Kill Chain underscores the fragility of our election process and points to the clear solutions available to protect us against sabotage.
From directors Simon Ardizzone, Russell Michaels and Sarah Teale, the team behind HBO’s 2006 Emmy-nominated documentary Hacking Democracy, Kill Chain again follows Finnish hacker and cyber security expert Harri Hursti as he travels across the U.S. and around the world to show how our election systems remain unprotected, with very little accountability or transparency. Hursti’s eye-opening journey is supplemented by candid interviews with key figures in the election security community, as well as cyber experts and U.S. senators from both parties who are fighting to secure the integrity of the vote before November 2020.
As the film shows, individuals, foreign states and other bad actors can employ a myriad of techniques to gain access to voting systems at any stage – from voter registration databases to actual election results.
Through this lens, seemingly unrelated or uncoordinated security breaches of the recent past can be seen as part of a “kill chain” – a military doctrine to plot meticulous, long-game attacks, understanding that breaking down trust in voting results is the surest way to undermine democracy. As enlightening as it is disturbing, Kill Chain underscores the fragility of our election process and points to the clear solutions available to protect us against sabotage.
Joe Fan
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These good people would never rig an election, right?
Feds close in as Madigan's inner circle sees indictments
"Months after utility Commonwealth Edison admitted to a patronage scheme to curry favor from House Speaker Michael Madigan, some of the Chicago Democrat’s closest allies are now facing criminal charges.
* * * *
Prosecutors charged the utility in July, which cast a shadow over the election cycle. ComEd, along with paying a $200 million fine, admitted to a years-long patronage system that included hiring Madigan allies, contracts with favored companies, and other perks for members of Madigan’s camp. The state-regulated utility paid those allies for jobs that required little or no work, according to a deferred prosecution agreement.
McClain, a Quincy Democrat, is seen as one of Madigan’s oldest and closest confidants. He’s indicated on multiple occasions that he would not cooperate with authorities to leverage a case against the longest-serving legislative leader in American history.
The speaker has not been charged with any crimes and has repeatedly said that he’s done nothing wrong. All four defendants are facing charges of bribery conspiracy, bribery, and falsification of records, ....."
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Prosecutors charged the utility in July, which cast a shadow over the election cycle. ComEd, along with paying a $200 million fine, admitted to a years-long patronage system that included hiring Madigan allies, contracts with favored companies, and other perks for members of Madigan’s camp. The state-regulated utility paid those allies for jobs that required little or no work, according to a deferred prosecution agreement.
McClain, a Quincy Democrat, is seen as one of Madigan’s oldest and closest confidants. He’s indicated on multiple occasions that he would not cooperate with authorities to leverage a case against the longest-serving legislative leader in American history.
The speaker has not been charged with any crimes and has repeatedly said that he’s done nothing wrong. All four defendants are facing charges of bribery conspiracy, bribery, and falsification of records, ....."
Feds close in as Madigan's inner circle sees indictments
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You should post one mega post consolidating everything you've compiled about this once the dust has settled.
How many times will this person open their mouth?
I'm willing to contribute.
Joe Fan
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WikiLeaks leaks of State Dept cables from 2006
Question 1 -- Why do you suppose the voting machine folks went to so much trouble to hide ownership and control?
Question 2 -- who do you suppose thought it was a good idea to bring this stuff to the US?
Cable: 06CARACAS2063_a
Question 1 -- Why do you suppose the voting machine folks went to so much trouble to hide ownership and control?
Question 2 -- who do you suppose thought it was a good idea to bring this stuff to the US?
Cable: 06CARACAS2063_a
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