2020 Presidential Election: let the jockeying commence
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BOOM! Email from March 2
Biden won't complete 6 months if elected. Dems will suddenly notice his mental deficiencies and will remove him very early in his term "for the good of the country".
So, you are saying he will be toes up (or face down) instead of heels up?
Just saying what I think everyone knows. Their goal is to have KH as POTUS, not Biden.
You clearly missed the implication of a clintoncide taking place...as contrasted with the VP's noted position under Willie earlier in the career...
No, sorry, I did get it, but I thought for once I would reply without a smart *** remark.
Wow, I cannot believe Biden (more accurately his handlers) was dumb enough to pick Kamala Harris. She is unlikeable, uninspiring, unelectable. She is insanely left wing and has no discernable convictions. She will turn off voters in the Rust Belt and motivate Trump voters to show up. Huge fail on every account. Nice job Joe.
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Horn2RunAgain
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I prefer the debate where Tulsi turned Kamala into a pillar of salt.
That's the ad that should be run. She's the primary figure on that ticket, not Joe
Yes, excellent material there as well.
Duck Dodgers
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The advantage Biden has had so far is that he's "not Trump", and has been able to hide in the basement, avoiding attention as much as possible, save for a few carefully staged and rehearsed stand up routines with compliant media. Even in those he does terrible. Must be like Mr. Burns in the "28 short films about Springfield", where he was dragged behind the horse and said to Smithers " A dozen takes, and that was the best one!".
I don't think it's a viable strategy for the full campaign. At some point, enough voters need to vote for a candidate, not just against the one in office. Can't ultimately beat something with nothing. The last time I remember this was in 80, when Jimmy Carter tried to do what was called the Rose Garden strategy - staying in the White House and not campaigning, trying to stay above the fray and work behind the scenes on both the horrible economy, and the hostages in Iran. Ultimately that did not work, and he had to go out on the trail.
The real danger for Biden is that the more people see of him, the less they like him, and also the ever present risk of him doing something fully in line with the fact that he's 78 years old and senile. If he wasn't a Democrat he would have absolutely no chance, and the media (all of who will vote for him, most of whom will donate money) will try to cover up for him, but as bad as his condition is, he's one curse out rant away from being finished.
Kammy Harris is a poor pick but who else was he going to choose, after he whittled his choice down to 6.5% of the population? The media will slobber all over her (role reversal there!), as they would anyone picked, but if KH was anything except a terrible politician, she would not have had such a terrible run in the primary. She's not very smart, mean, petty, power hungry, and with a tenuous hold on her prime advantage - being black. Her being married to a honky dude won't help her either - expect never to see him in public.
I don't think it's a viable strategy for the full campaign. At some point, enough voters need to vote for a candidate, not just against the one in office. Can't ultimately beat something with nothing. The last time I remember this was in 80, when Jimmy Carter tried to do what was called the Rose Garden strategy - staying in the White House and not campaigning, trying to stay above the fray and work behind the scenes on both the horrible economy, and the hostages in Iran. Ultimately that did not work, and he had to go out on the trail.
The real danger for Biden is that the more people see of him, the less they like him, and also the ever present risk of him doing something fully in line with the fact that he's 78 years old and senile. If he wasn't a Democrat he would have absolutely no chance, and the media (all of who will vote for him, most of whom will donate money) will try to cover up for him, but as bad as his condition is, he's one curse out rant away from being finished.
Kammy Harris is a poor pick but who else was he going to choose, after he whittled his choice down to 6.5% of the population? The media will slobber all over her (role reversal there!), as they would anyone picked, but if KH was anything except a terrible politician, she would not have had such a terrible run in the primary. She's not very smart, mean, petty, power hungry, and with a tenuous hold on her prime advantage - being black. Her being married to a honky dude won't help her either - expect never to see him in public.
The Black community is on to Harris and that is what counts. When folks see Biden hiding or god forbid have senile moments when campaigning, it’s not going to help. Yesterday was Biden’s last good day (even then recent polls showed Trump winning in NC and AZ). It’s all downhill from here. It will be a tied race in the polls after Labor Day.
Duck Dodgers
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I compare presidential elections to past ones, as there are only so many different scenarios out there.
Prior to the Wuhan Virus, I though 2020 was going to be 1984 over again. Incumbent Republican president, going up against the VP from the prior Democrat administration. Booming economy, no foreign wars, media hates the president, things were very similar. No Trump doesn't have the political gifts of Reagan, but the main factors were there. Then the virus and the economy coming down turned the election from a slam dunk, into a real contest.
The most similar previous elections to this one are 88 and 92. In 92, you had a slight recession that the media played up as the second coming of the Great Depression, a tired and worn out GH Bush, and an up and coming Clinton. You can compare the economy to today, but Trump is not a quitter like the entire Bush family has proven to be. While Bush quit in the spring of 92 (his son would later quit even earlier in his term - August of 05), Trump hasn't, and has kept fighting.
Also, not sure if this needs to be pointed out, but Biden in 2020 is not Bill Clinton in 92, in terms of political ability. Biden has always been a terrible politician, campaigner, and thinker. Now he's senile and needs a pudding cup to stay awake after 9 am.
So 88 looks more similar. A not yet quitter Bush up against Dukakis. Dukakis had media love, and a big lead all through the summer, up until the Republican convention, when Bush gave a great speech and turned the tide, ultimately wining the election pretty easily. Dukaksi, who was the last decent Dem nominee, had a couple of bad errors including the famous Snoopy on a tank ride, and his unemotional response about what would he think about the death penalty if it was his wife who was raped and murdered. Almost unthinkable now, 32 years later, that a debate moderator would not pre-clear and coordinate their questions with the Dem nominee.
As the economy comes roaring back, and Slow Joe has to emerge from his basement, I think Trump comes out with the win. Look for a good speech by him after the nomination that builds momentum, and a glide path to victory from there.
Joe Fan
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I think the "their" here is the BMDs
Wall Street and Big Tech both like Harris. Bezos seems to love her
They made this choice. I think they told the DNC, "hey if you want us to keep giving you money, then ....." The DNC then told Biden who he is getting.
I am not sure how much of a role Biden even played in it. In his Zoom call with her, you could actually see he had a script written by someone else so he would remember her name and know what to say to her. I am willing to bet you someone told him "stick to the script Joe." Maybe several people.
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Joe Fan
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Clean
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Harris is the first VP ever picked on the basis of gender & race. No whites considered. No black males. Just black females. That is where the new Democratic party wants to take us.
Of the candidates I heard he was considering, she's about as good as any of them. Her liability factor is below zero. Combine that with Creepy Joe's and they look extremely beatable.
Now if Trump will stick to things like immigration, defense, the economy and not be too bombastic, I think he'll win.
Of the candidates I heard he was considering, she's about as good as any of them. Her liability factor is below zero. Combine that with Creepy Joe's and they look extremely beatable.
Now if Trump will stick to things like immigration, defense, the economy and not be too bombastic, I think he'll win.
The Liberal "leadership" is not leading at all. They are consumed with quota's and virtue signaling. The faces we have come to know and abhor are narcissistic egomaniacs who will go down with the ship of hatred for America. They believe they are on a political messianic trip and will never compromise and will justify any and all hypocrisy as a "by any means necessary" to regain and permanently hold power. That is why they must be destroyed at the polls. They are encouraging "looting with confidence" and attacking white people like the Jews were in the 1930's Germany. Their brief is simple; Republicans are racists and we will take their money, destroy their livelihood and convert America into a feudal society where people of color will happily live on scraps knowing they are being cared for by the elites.
Yep. Pretty incredible that the base line for picking a VP candidate has become gender and race. That is unbelievably reckless.
It doesn't matter if she's "qualified." Is she the BEST choice among all Democrats or simply the best choice choice among Black(ish) women candidates?
The fact that Biden and the Dems chose virtue signaling over everything else should invalidate them by itself.
Militant virtue signaling works. They have terrified millions of people who can't afford to lose their jobs and don't want to live off the government.
That is why Trump is the best candidate. He cannot be intimidated and will speak out as the proxy for the outraged silent "privileged."
And the media will not scrutinize her as they would if Trump had picked her.
Should, but won't. That's the way their brain processes (or doesn't process) information. They get off on that.
You know what is offensive? Kamala is as Indian as she is Black and no one is extolling her as the first Indian American woman to run for VP.
hmm...ref coming out... "FLAG ON THE PLAY...something something...dammit, I'm sure there is a rules violation here"No, sorry, I did get it, but I thought for once I would reply without a smart *** remark.
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