2017 Recruiting

overseasbbfan1 said:
Honestly, most would say Baylor's current recruiting class of Cox, Chou, Landrum etc, is on par with our class of Holmes, Sutton, Underwood etc. ESPN has the Bear's class only slightly above ours, solely because they have Cox ranked 1st and Holmes 2nd for 2016. The multiple services that have Holmes 1st would probably have our class ranked on top. And don't forget, the Caron-Goudreau twins are effectively members of our 2016 class also. If you look at our 2014, 2015 and 2016 classes as a whole, that combination is as good as any other program in the country over the same stetch, and quite likely the best over those same three years.

I would think the difference between the Horns and BU is that the Bears should be bringing in top classes, based on their two national titles, and success at the conference level. The fact the Horns have been able to bring in top national classes for three successive years, in particular when coming on the heels of our worst season ever, really says something about the commitment of this staff to get this program back on top. And then to back up that desire with such rapid improvement from one year to the next is something that a lot of people, and obviously many top recruits have really taken notice of. In light of where our program was just a few short years ago, I would say our recruiting momentum is more impressive, and by some margin.
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Considering what has been learned about Baylor athletics, specifically its preferential treatment of football players at the expense of female athletes/students, I don't understand how athletes and their parents are willing to turn a blind eye.
 
I still have great expectations for the 2015 class. I have even greater expectations for 2016. The way I see the rosters, Texas is in good shape through the 2017-2018 season. Anyone other than perhaps an elite true center who comes in 2017 probably is going to have to be really something special to earn many minutes as a freshman. So, I tend to look at 2017 and 2018 together. For 2017, the coaches can look for exceptional talents and special skills. If they miss, 2018 becomes more critical. For example, in 2017, an incoming guard would have to compete for minutes with Brooke, Tasia, Ariel, Lashann, and Alecia. If players such as Jada and Joyner take minutes at the 3, a position played by guards on the current team, well, the guard minutes just may not be there. But when Brooke, Tasia, and Ariel all leave at the end of the 2017/2018 season, and Lashann is a senior, suddenly there is a big need for guards. There appear to be a number of elite guards in 2017. If one or two are willing to come, and possibly wait until 2018 to make an impact, that is great for Texas. Otherwise, the pressure is on for guards in 2018. It also appears the team will be seriously in need of a couple of bigs by 2018. The wing/forward position appears set a bit longer.
 
Keeping my fingers crossed for 2017 F Jade Willliams and 2018 C Sedona Prince. I think Williams may be a long shot. But who knows?
 
I'm not bothered by Richards. At least not all the good players can go to Baylor or UConn. I don't know much, but from what I've read and seen on Youtube, I would be most excited about Patterson, Prince, Gray, and now Ursin. And lots of others sound fantastic.
 
rattfatt said:
You can never have too much talent but only five players can play at a time.
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Yes, but injuries have played such a huge role the last few years. If one of your main scorers is out with injury, and you don't have other players to pick up the scoring slack, it has a huge effect. We have several bench players who can't be counted on to score; that is where the quality depth has to improve.
 
JoeDallas said:
I'm not bothered by Richards. At least not all the good players can go to Baylor or UConn. I don't know much, but from what I've read and seen on Youtube, I would be most excited about Patterson, Prince, Gray, and now Ursin. And lots of others sound fantastic.
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Patterson I'm hearing is headed to Texas A&M with Oklahoma next in line
 
JoeDallas said:
I'm not bothered by Richards. At least not all the good players can go to Baylor or UConn. I don't know much, but from what I've read and seen on Youtube, I would be most excited about Patterson, Prince, Gray, and now Ursin. And lots of others sound fantastic.
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I've seen all these kids play before and honestly Richards is probably the most complete player with Morris being a close second. Richards and Megan walker are the most complete players in that class.

Someone posted a video highlight of Richards earlier if you haven't seen it I will try and find it. Huge loss for us though and I just asked a couple of people about what happened and I've been told the Baylor staff convinced her she would compete for the starter position opposite of Chou her freshman year. Two 6'2" guards will be tough for anyone
 
JoeDallas said:
I'm not bothered by Richards. At least not all the good players can go to Baylor or UConn. I don't know much, but from what I've read and seen on Youtube, I would be most excited about Patterson, Prince, Gray, and now Ursin. And lots of others sound fantastic.
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Here is the highlight I was talking about
 
jusme828 said:
I don't have any insight to Chassidy, but I just have a feeling she might be a Horn.
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Patterson dad isn't happy with the staff at Texas. I've been told that by her uncle and also Patterson's head coach is pushing her to Texas A&M because that's where she went. That's the reason Courtney Williams went to A&M. She's been up to college station for almost every home game this year
 
HornsLewis said:
I've seen all these kids play before and honestly Richards is probably the most complete player with Morris being a close second. Richards and Megan walker are the most complete players in that class.

Someone posted a video highlight of Richards earlier if you haven't seen it I will try and find it. Huge loss for us though and I just asked a couple of people about what happened and I've been told the Baylor staff convinced her she would compete for the starter position opposite of Chou her freshman year. Two 6'2" guards will be tough for anyone
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I have no doubt that Didi will beat out Chou at SF; neither will play SG in college, but for different reasons; plus, Calveion Landrum is probably gonna be Baylor's SG of the future. Chou was shut out in the second half against Duncanville. This past summer, she was awful shooting the ball in her limited play with USA bball. Will be curious to see if Chou has the lateral quickness to play defense against the Big 12's small forwards. I have a feeling she will be like OU's Peyton Little; if you leave her wide open, she'll probably make some shots. If you keep a hand in her face, she probably won't be able to create her own shot consistently.
 
HornsLewis said:
Patterson dad isn't happy with the staff at Texas. I've been told that by her uncle and also Patterson's head coach is pushing her to Texas A&M because that's where she went. That's the reason Courtney Williams went to A&M. She's been up to college station for almost every home game this year
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Patterson can really shoot the ball. I just wish she was a little taller because this team obviously already has two small point guards. I remember Patterson being one of the first players to attend the Texas basketball camp when Aston became the coach.
 
HornsLewis said:
I've seen all these kids play before and honestly Richards is probably the most complete player with Morris being a close second. Richards and Megan walker are the most complete players in that class.

Someone posted a video highlight of Richards earlier if you haven't seen it I will try and find it. Huge loss for us though and I just asked a couple of people about what happened and I've been told the Baylor staff convinced her she would compete for the starter position opposite of Chou her freshman year. Two 6'2" guards will be tough for anyone
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There's not any question that Didi is a very well rounded player both defensively and offensively. But I'm still not sold on her being able to consistently shoot the ball from the perimeter. This team needs consistent jump shooters. That's why I would have taken Lexi Gordon, Haley Troup, or even Vivian Gray. No disrespect, but I don't think Didi is even in the same league as Megan Walker especially offensively. Didi is more of a slasher IMO. And Megan Walker can create off the dribble much better than Didi.
 
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rattfatt, I haven't heard anything about Troup nor Gray committing elsewhere. Have they? Or are we still possibly in the running for them?
 
BabHorn said:
rattfatt, I haven't heard anything about Troup nor Gray committing elsewhere. Have they? Or are we still possibly in the running for them?
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I don't know any more than you do. But when it comes to Troup, Texas Tech is also recruiting her hard. I think we're still in the running for both players.
 
rattfatt said:
There's not any question that Didi is a very well rounded player both defensively and offensively. But I'm still not sold on her being able to consistently shoot the ball from the perimeter. This team needs consistent jump shooters. That's why I would have taken Lexi Gordon, Haley Troup, or even Vivian Gray. No disrespect, but I don't think Didi is even in the same league as Megan Walker especially offensively. Didi is more of a slasher IMO. And Megan Walker can create off the dribble much better than Didi.
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Stats do not lie and Lexi Gordon shot 28% while Didi shot 39% this year. I don't know what she did to improve this way but Kwai Lenard did the same thing from last year to this. Like I said before though Richards create shots and is a huge miss for us. Her mid range is unbelievable to be honest.

Megan walker is nice but I have seen Didi and chennedy carter get the best of her multiple times. Morris would be the next one I would want. I think you may have missed it on Richards though. That's just my opinion and if you read what mark Williams wrote on blue star about her he says the same thing about her jump shot. Will find the post for you. Just think it was a bad loss for us
 
HornsLewis said:
Stats do not lie and Lexi Gordon shot 28% while Didi shot 39% this year. I don't know what she did to improve this way but Kwai Lenard did the same thing from last year to this. Like I said before though Richards create shots and is a huge miss for us. Her mid range is unbelievable to be honest.

Megan walker is nice but I have seen Didi and chennedy carter get the best of her multiple times. Morris would be the next one I would want. I think you may have missed it on Richards though. That's just my opinion and if you read what mark Williams wrote on blue star about her he says the same thing about her jump shot. Will find the post for you. Just think it was a bad loss for us
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Kwai Leonard has improved his jump shoot but I think he's the exception. Most players who are good jump shooters usually are good at an early age. And players who are aren't good shooters usually only improve but so much.

Chennedy Carter is the player I really like. I'm a fan of big guards that can create off the dribble. What's the word on Carter? Also, even though she's on the small side do you know anything about Kiana Williams the PG from San Antonio.
 
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HornsLewis said:
...I just asked a couple of people about what happened and I've been told the Baylor staff convinced her she would compete for the starter position opposite of Chou her freshman year."
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Yes, I think the fact that Jones and Prince both complete their eligibility next year had to have been a recruiting advantage for Baylor. When you look at Baylor's projected roster for 2017, you see they needs guards. Texas returns a lot of players in 2017 who will or could play guard or wing.
 
rattfatt said:
Kwai Leonard has improved his jump shoot but I think he's the exception. Most players who are good jump shooters usually are good at an early age. And players who are aren't good shooters usually only improve but so much.

Chennedy Carter is the player I really like. I'm a fan of big guards that can create off the dribble. What's the word on Carter? Also, even though she's on the small side did you know anything about Kiana Williams the PG from San Antonio.
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Think Williams is a Stanford lean.....think carter is leaning towards tech and A&M.

On another note I think Richards creates her shot well. I just went back and watched that video to see if she was shooting jump shots and creating them. She is and does........also the thing about Didi is if you read about her it talks about her not starting to play basketball until the 7th grade. Which means her development may be a little behind
 
HornsLewis said:
Think Williams is a Stanford lean.....think carter is leaning towards tech and A&M.

On another note I think Richards creates her shot well. I just went back and watched that video to see if she was shooting jump shots and creating them. She is and does........also the thing about Didi is if you read about her it talks about her not starting to play basketball until the 7th grade. Which means her development may be a little behind
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Thanks for the info. And you may be right about Richards, we just have two different opinions. I wish her well and hope she becomes a great jump shooter but just not when she plays against Texas.
 
HornsLewis said:
Think Williams is a Stanford lean.....think carter is leaning towards tech and A&M.

On another note I think Richards creates her shot well. I just went back and watched that video to see if she was shooting jump shots and creating them. She is and does........also the thing about Didi is if you read about her it talks about her not starting to play basketball until the 7th grade. Which means her development may be a little behind
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Have you heard of any Texas leans?
 
DFW_Horn said:
Considering what has been learned about Baylor athletics, specifically its preferential treatment of football players at the expense of female athletes/students, I don't understand how athletes and their parents are willing to turn a blind eye.
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They want to be on a top team! Longhorn fans had better look back at their reputation....even as far back as the 60's when it comes to sports and equality. Texas is a top school with a great athletic program and the Big12 would be nothing without UT and OU.
 
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