2017 Recruiting?

SabreHorn said:
Any kid that chooses Loserville over Texas isn't smart enough to gain admission to The Forty Acres. Any kid that chooses a ******** school like Arizona State, aka the graduate school for BYU gads that can't get a job, particularly as long as that two-faced, lying piece of **** is head coach, is likely to continue to make poor choices and will likely meet the Travis County judicial system before he meets his counselor in Bellmont to pick his classes.
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Sabre, please just go ahead and say what you feel. Don't be shy. Its ok. :smile1:

Seriously, you, as always, make good points. Sadly, it seems that our recruiting is in a strange state now where we have to re establish our prominence. I suspect that within a year or two the Loserville's and Zona States of the world will not be in the picture for kids that the University is seriously pursuing. :beertoast:
 
If I was Herman coming in after Charlie, I'd want some good soldiers. Loyalists. I want the best players obviously, but I can see getting guys who would go to the mats for me. I can't say which players those are, or if Herman would do that. But I would.
 
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We have been conditioned to judge recruits by their star rating. Once upon a time, Mack Brown dominated recruiting for the most part and the players he landed mostly were four and five star players. And we liked those star ratings. We believed in them. Now we are seeing a flurry of three star players being offered and accepting at a school that aspires to be a consistent top five (or ten?) program. Has the star system become obsolete? Am I asking the question because I want to believe that Herman somehow sees something in these players that the rating systems don't? Are we to believe that the four and five star players that are currently committed to Alabama, Ohio State et al are not that much better than the three stars we see committing to Texas in the past two weeks?

Just asking...
 
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Are we to believe that the four and five star players that are currently committed to Alabama, Ohio State et al are not that much better than the three stars we see committing to Texas in the past two weeks?
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Who had a better college career: Colt McCoy or Ryan Perriloux? D'onta Foreman or Armanti Foreman? Rating services are decently qualified to rate players, but a good college coaching staff is better. In Mack's last 2-3 years the 3 star players lining up at A&M, TCU and Baylor were on average, better than the 4-stars Mack as pulling in, though admittedly not better than the 4 star players going to Alabama and Ohio State.
 
Crockett said:
Who had a better college career: Colt McCoy or Ryan Perriloux? D'onta Foreman or Armanti Foreman? Rating services are decently qualified to rate players, but a good college coaching staff is better. In Mack's last 2-3 years the 3 star players lining up at A&M, TCU and Baylor were on average, better than the 4-stars Mack as pulling in, though admittedly not better than the 4 star players going to Alabama and Ohio State.
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In hindsight I would say that of course Colt had the better career and it's not even close. I don't know that anyone understood Ryan's emotional problems at the age of eighteen. I think his physical tools and performance in high school merited his rating. Mack sure wanted him. Everyone did. Ok, so the star system failed on that one. And I'm sure there are many others.

And yes, coaching matters. No doubt.

But is Herman "settling" or does he see something nobody else can?

Stay tuned I guess.
 
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In his last press conference, Herman asked that he not be judged on this years class. He pointed for example to the 2012 recruiting class when Urban Meyer took over at Ohio State. According to the rating services, that was a national top 5 class ... But only on paper. A handful of those players were significant contributors at Ohio State, and a handful ended up playing for the Akron Zips or buried in the depth chart. Herman said that recruiting is about building relationships and that takes time. Herman is enthuiastic about what we offer at UT education wise, facilities wise, competitiveness standpoint. But he said his first full recruiting class will be the one we sign in February 2018.
 
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Crockett said:
In his initial press conference, Herman asked that he not be judged on this years class. He pointed for example to the 2012 recruiting class when Urban Meyer took over at Ohio State. According to the rating services, that was a national top 5 class ... But only on paper. A handful of those players were significant contributors at Ohio State, and a handful ended up playing for the Akron Zips or buried in the depth chart. Herman said that recruiting is about building relationships and that takes time. Herman is enthuiastic about what we offer at UT education wise, facilities wise, competitiveness standpoint. But he said his first full recruiting class will be the one we sign in February 2018.
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I guess I was hoping he had built relationships in Texas already but was hamstrung by the fact that he had to convince players to come to Houston versus a Power 5 school. Those same Texas relationships theoretically exist but now he's carrying the Longhorns logo. Not sure why the relationship aspect has to be built-up. Maybe I'm missing something on that.
 
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