2016 recruiting

A strong Big 12 makes it easier to get a high seed, making it easier to have more success in the NCAAs. Hoping that the rest of the Big 12 is strong does not mean that I don't want Texas to be the top dog. And a strong conference starts with getting the top recruits, something we are seeing in 2016.

We should have an excellent chance to beat Baylor this season. But unless someone besides OU steps up, the league is not going to be perceived as very good, a disservice to the top teams, when seeding for NCAAs is done.
 
A strong conference also helps with recruiting, attendance and preparation for post season play I would add. You can't tell me UCONN is glad to be in the AAC so they can dominate in a bunch of empty arenas.
 
HornView post: 1414578 said:
A strong conference also helps with recruiting, attendance and preparation for post season play I would add. You can't tell me UCONN is glad to be in the AAC so they can dominate in a bunch of empty arenas.
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And guess what, it hasn't affected their ability to win championships and recruit well at all. Winning is what attracts recruits, not what conference you play in. Coach Elliott and the volleyball team is another example of that, they don't play in an overall quality conference but Coach Elliott is still able to attract great recruits and the fan support is also great at home because they win. And just like Uconn when the volleyball team goes on the road the fans always show up because it's like the other teams super bowl.
 
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And guess what, it hasn't affected their ability to win championships and recruit well at all. Winning is what attracts recruits, not what conference you play in. Coach Elliott and the volleyball team is another example of that, they don't play in an overall quality conference but Coach Elliott is still able to attract great recruits and the fan support is also great at home because they win. And just like Uconn when the volleyball team goes on the road the fans always show up because it's like the other teams super bowl.
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Programs already established (and the new conference alignment is still new) Will be interesting to see if it starts to erode. As long as Geno is there not a problem, but it has to be a factor recruits consider.

It didn't hurt that Nebraska had a strong program for Texas VB. There is always talk and grumbling about the Big 12 being weak and Texas lofty ranking especially in post season.

Are you really trying to convince anyone a weak conference is a good thing? This isn't the 80's anymore. There's TV and a lot more elite athletes to compete for and all advantages are needed to become and remain the elite program we all want at UT.
 
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Programs already established (and the new conference alignment is still new) Will be interesting to see if it starts to erode. As long as Geno is there not a problem, but it has to be a factor recruits consider.

It didn't hurt that Nebraska had a strong program for Texas VB. There is always talk and grumbling about the Big 12 being weak and Texas lofty ranking especially in post season.

Are you really trying to convince anyone a weak conference is a good thing? This isn't the 80's anymore. There's TV and a lot more elite athletes to compete for and all advantages are needed to become and remain the elite program we all want at UT.
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Are you really trying to convince anyone that you have to play in a strong conference in order to win championships and get great recruits? I've given you examples that says you don't. Uconn plays a great non conference schedule and almost all of those games are on Espn, including some of their games in conference. And just like with any program if they continue to win they will get great recruits. It's also the same with Coach Elliott and the volleyball team.

Which is why once again Coach Elliott has a great recruiting class coming in this year. He also has the best recruit who will be one of the most talked about players to ever come out of high school committed to Texas for 2017 from California. The fact that they play in a conference that doesn't have overall quality supports what I'm saying. Baylor has been dominating in a conference that hasn't had overall quality for about 5 or 6 years and it has not prevented them from having a chance to win championships and recruit at a high level.
 
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Are you really trying to convince anyone that you have to play in a strong conference in order to win championships and get great recruits? I've given you examples that says you don't. Uconn plays a great non conference schedule and almost all of those games are on Espn, including some of their games in conference. And just like with any program if they continue to win they will get great recruits. It's also the same with Coach Elliott and the volleyball team.

Which is why once again Coach Elliott has a great recruiting class coming in this year. He also has the best recruit who will be one of the most talked about players to ever come out of high school committed to Texas for 2017 from California. The fact that they play in a conference that doesn't have overall quality supports what I'm saying. Baylor has been dominating in a conference that hasn't had overall quality for about 7 or 8 years and it has not prevented them from having a chance to win championships and recruit at a high level.
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Actually the Big 12 WBB has had a very strong if not the strongest RPI which can be a factor in NCAA seedings.

I'm not quite sure volleyball is a mirror comparison quite honestly. We'll agree to disagree because I hate to see this thread hijacked from the original intention although I do believe the subject is a factor in recruiting. I think elite athletes want to compete with talented and competitive teams in college....and of course win championships. Pretty sure they appreciate a challenge.
 
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Actually the Big 12 WBB has had a very strong if not the strongest RPI which can be a factor in NCAA seedings.

I'm not quite sure volleyball is a mirror comparison quite honestly. We'll agree to disagree because I hate to see this thread hijacked from the original intention although I do believe the subject is a factor in recruiting. I think elite athletes want to compete with talented and competitive teams in college....and of course win championships. Pretty sure they appreciate a challenge.
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The RPI is nice and all but we all know that the last time the conference had overall quality was when a&m and Nebraska were in the conference, but yes we will agree to disagree.

Back to the thread, Lauren Cox is a nice recruit for baylor but I'm glad we got Joyner because I think she's a better player.
 
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The RPI is nice and all but we all know that the last time the conference had overall quality was when a&m and Nebraska were in the conference, but yes we will agree to disagree.

Back to the thread, Lauren Cox is a nice recruit for baylor but I'm glad we got Joyner because I think she's a better player.
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Not sure this is true, because Nebraska didnt get really good until they were in the B10. Also we've been strong the last 5 years both in tournament success and non conf win % vs other power 5 leagues.

Again I say, anywhere but Baylor. To any recruit ever
 
Actually the benefit may be in the number of posts they have. You need to play to get better and if they have a chance for minutes, Mulkey can yank them for any mistake as she has another and another to put in. That can stifle improvement and progression if the player is always worried about being pulled.
 
rattfatt said:
Are you really trying to convince anyone that you have to play in a strong conference in order to win championships and get great recruits? I've given you examples that says you don't. Uconn plays a great non conference schedule and almost all of those games are on Espn, including some of their games in conference. And just like with any program if they continue to win they will get great recruits. It's also the same with Coach Elliott and the volleyball team.

Which is why once again Coach Elliott has a great recruiting class coming in this year. He also has the best recruit who will be one of the most talked about players to ever come out of high school committed to Texas for 2017 from California. The fact that they play in a conference that doesn't have overall quality supports what I'm saying. Baylor has been dominating in a conference that hasn't had overall quality for about 5 or 6 years and it has not prevented them from having a chance to win championships and recruit at a high level.
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Do you have a link (not behind a paywall) to a site that lists vball recruits?
 
Come to think of it, if the team and coaches were our at Arizona State for a scrimmage this weekend, I'm guessing there was no way an official visit from Natalie Chou would have been occurring. Makes sense if the team flew out on Friday and that is why none of the players were at the volleyball match against Kansas on Friday night.
 
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Come to think of it, if the team and coaches were our at Arizona State for a scrimmage this weekend, I'm guessing there was no way an official visit from Natalie Chou would have been occurring. Makes sense if the team flew out on Friday and that is why none of the players were at the volleyball match against Kansas on Friday night.
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The one visit schedule of Chou's I was able to find in September had a Texas visit in November but now I can't remember where it was posted. If it is November, would have to assume it would be next weekend, Nov 6-8. It actually gave me a little hope for UT because it would be her last visit before signing day.
 
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The one visit schedule of Chou's I was able to find in September had a Texas visit in November but now I can't remember where it was posted. If it is November, would have to assume it would be next weekend, Nov 6-8. It actually gave me a little hope for UT because it would be her last visit before signing day.
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Chou will be in Austin this weekend
 
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The ESPNw article on Chou said she is a bit of a foodie - need to get her to a few great Austin restaurants and see how they stack up against Waco's Waffle House, Luby's and Taco Bell.
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that's right. they got nothing on IHOP, Golden Corral and Taco Cabana. :smile1:
 
Hope Chou enjoys Halloween weekend in Austin. Too bad there is no football or volleyball game on campus for her to attend.
 
well, the early signing date starts Nov 11, Veteran's Day and runs until the 18th. Hopefully, we will know before then who is going to be in our 2016 class. :hookem:
 
Prospects nation.com.

Ionescu is still considering Oregon an Cal. Texas is out.

Natalie Chou is said to be deciding between Texas and Baylor.
 
hoopsalot said:
Prospects nation.com.

Ionescu is still considering Oregon an Cal. Texas is out.

Natalie Chou is said to be deciding between Texas and Baylor.
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Ionescu - unfortunate but what most people expected.

Chou - if I had to put money down, I'd go Baylor right now but I'm hoping she seriously considers the academic advantages of Texas plus the need for her skill set and picks the good guys.
 
http://prospectsnation.com/story/race-recruiting-finish-line

We’re just over a week from the National Letter of Intent (NLI) early signing period for basketball, which opens November 11 and closes November 18. There are typically a few players who wait until the week of and a few that need more time and sign in the spring, but this 2016 class is in rare space with the number of ELITE 150 impact players undecided with just days to figure it out if they intend to sign early.

Sabrina Ionescu of Walnut Creek, Calif., the No. 3 player in the 2016 class, has two leaders in Cal and Oregon, with Texas being eliminated this week. The 6-foot combo guard could decide to commit this week and sign early but just as easily could pocket her two remaining visits and make the decision later and sign in the spring.

Ionescu is one of four top 20 players remaining undecided as of November 1. No. 8 Tori McCoy, a 6-4 post from Chicago, Ill., No. 14 Aaliyah Wilson, a 5-11 wing from Muskogee, Okla., and No. 18 Tyasha Harris, a 5-8 point guard from Indianapolis, Ind., are all uncommitted to date.

Of the top 100 players in the ELITE 150, 15 remain open, including nine in the top 40. Several players have made it known they are considering waiting for the spring signing period, following their senior season. McCoy, Jasmine Walker of Montgomery, Ala., Arella Guirantes of Bellport, N.Y., and Felicia Aiyeotan of Philadelphia, Pa., are among those expected to make their decisions after the November signing period. But of course in recruiting, things change daily.

While the next two weeks will certainly be exciting, there are plenty of schools with plenty of security this fall with terrific signing classes on the way.

Maryland, Texas, Notre Dame and Stanford currently hold down the top five spots but No. 6 Baylor could shake that up if the Bears follow up landing No. 2 Lauren Cox with another in-state recruit, No. 24 Natalie Chou of Plano, Texas. Chou is down to Baylor and Texas and could decide any day.

Oregon sits at No. 12 as of today and Cal at No. 21 but adding Ionescu would catapult either school’s class up near the top.
 
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Ionescu - unfortunate but what most people expected.

Chou - if I had to put money down, I'd go Baylor right now but I'm hoping she seriously considers the academic advantages of Texas plus the need for her skill set and picks the good guys.
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Indeed DFW Horn. Texas is guard-centric while Baylor is post-centric. If playing time matters, she'd go to Baylor although Texas sure does need a 3-point extraordinaire. But the plus with Texas is the academics and she has more former AAU teammates among the Texas roster than the Baylor roster.
 
While those updates could be completely accurate, I saw nothing of the sort on their respective twitter pages. And, Ionescu has taken 4 official visits as she visited Oregon State two weekends ago.

If Chou is down to Baylor and Texas, I'm sure she'll choose what's best for her. Baylor has some "shooters" like Kristi Wallace and Alyssa Dry (who is injured and might redshirt this season). For 2016-17, they also would return guards Alexis Jones, Alexandria Gulley and Calveion Landrum. Still recruiting PG from Michigan and SG from Oklahoma.

Not sure anyone would call our guards "shooters", so it might just come down to where she sees herself fitting in best and contributing most with the ability to see court time.
 
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Not sure anyone would call our guards "shooters", so it might just come down to where she sees herself fitting in best and contributing most with the ability to see court time.
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Most are penetrators rather than pure shooters. Natalie would be a welcome addition but, as you said, playing time, contribution, and other factors will all impact her decision.
 
I'm still trying to figure out the scholarship situation, do we even have a scholarship available when you also factor in the other twin.
 
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well, like the staff says, these things work themselves out.
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We do have a lot of perimeter players but we certainly could use her jump shooting which very few perimeter players on the team can consistently do now. But I think she will end up at baylor if it is indeed down to them and Texas.
 
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