Will Mack Brown be blue again?

A little research indicates the following as possible landing spots for Kingsbury as an OC:

Kansas City Chiefs
Dallas Cowboys
Cleveland Browns (notwithstanding Baker's issues with Tech)
USC
North Carolina
 
ViperHorn said:
Unfortunately Baker's problem at Tech was Kingsbury.
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Yeah... the sportswriter thought the time that has passed might smooth things out but after hearing Baker's comments about Hugh Jackson accepting a paycheck from the Bengals I'm with you in the sense that I don't think Baker is the forgiving sort.
 
Mack has officially taken Tim Brewster from aggy, his first coach hire
That always seemed like such an odd match

 
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Driver 8 said:
But is the station still lit?
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Oh its lit

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Joe Fan said:
Mack has officially taken Tim Brewster from aggy, his first coach hire
That always seemed like such an odd match

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Love it! So Tim what’s really going on there?
Well, they’re saying ”xyz, and selling abc”
Hey Tom real quick, before you send us information on your second and third choices per position, which will be our first choice out here, just thought I’d let you know what the Jamies’ enablers are selling.
 
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And by the way, I hope Mack kills it.
Always thankful for the great years here.
Too many great players, and moments to name.
But I will name one.
Reverse to Ramonce in the great comeback vs Okie lite and Les Miles at home.
If you haven’t seen it, YouTube it!
 
Mack Brown's last staff at UT

-Major Applewhite (UH HC)
-Greg Robinson (Reportedly UNC DC)
-Duane Akina (Stan DBs)
-Bruce Chambers (Arlington ISD Asst. AD)
-Bo Davis (Lions DL)
-Oscar Giles (UT DL)
-Larry Porter (Auburn TE)
-Stacy Searels (The U OL)
-Darrell Wyatt (UCF WR)
 
In 2004 Greg Robinson held an offense with Adrian Peterson and Jason White to 12 points despite the UT offense giving him no help at all. In 2013 the defense scored 7 on Oklahoma, and only allowed 13 - the only touchdown of which came on a 20-yard drive after a long kick return. UNC should schedule OU pronto! :D
 
Htown77 said:
A national title would warrant a statue at all schools, including this school, as a total of two people have successfully won one here.
1 national title > 20 conference titles.

For all his conference titles, Bob Stoops won the same number of national titles as Mack Brown.

Do TCU fans remember winning the mountain west in 2010 or remember winning the Rose Bowl more?

20 years from now, will the average fan remember what the SWC even was? What if the Big 12 folds?

Conference titles are a big deal for places like Baylor and Kansas State where they are not national title contenders and the conference is all the can hope to win.

Nothing beats a national title, especially an undefeated unanimous national title.

Most fans can say DKR won 3 national titles. How many remember the exact number of conference titles he won without looking it up?
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I don't remember the total number but I do remember that DKR won six in a row at one point.
 
I just got back from NC earlier this month. Beautiful state with the leaves changing in late Oct, early November. I so respect Coach Brown. Probably my favorite UT coach since I was so young when I saw Darrel Royal coach in the 70's. He is going to get UNC going again. Dabo better look out!
 
For all his conference titles, Bob Stoops won the same number of national titles as Mack Brown.
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When Mack Brown left Texas, compared to OU he had the most recent National Title, the most recent Title Berth, most recent P5 BCS victory, the most recent outright Division/Conference Title, and the most recent win in the head-to-head series.
 
Statalyzer said:
When Mack Brown left Texas, compared to OU he had the most recent National Title, the most recent Title Berth, most recent P5 BCS victory, the most recent outright Division/Conference Title, and the most recent win in the head-to-head series.
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annnnnddd then he left, and Bob righted the ship, and left it on a high note.....Bob dominated Mack....Statalyzer, stats don't lie and then they do......Mack was a fine recruiter and motivational speaker, but coach? Compare him to Bobby "dadgum it" Bowden....hire some good assistants and reel 'em in.....Mack's a good guy but revisionist history still cannot deny the fact that OU owned/owns the Big 12...…..If not for Vince, not titles, if not for Colt, oh yeah, still no titles (and a Big 12 title when one second got put back on the clock)
 
annnnnddd then he left, and Bob righted the ship, and left it on a high note.....Bob dominated Mack....Statalyzer, stats don't lie and then they do......Mack was a fine recruiter and motivational speaker, but coach? Compare him to Bobby "dadgum it" Bowden....hire some good assistants and reel 'em in.....Mack's a good guy but revisionist history still cannot deny the fact that OU owned/owns the Big 12...…..If not for Vince, not titles, if not for Colt, oh yeah, still no titles (and a Big 12 title when one second got put back on the clock)
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I remember when sooners would come on this board and argue the same thing. We get it. You hate Mack Brown and do not think much of his or Texas’s success in the 2000s. I will never understand Texas fans trying to diminish their own school’s past successes or fans hating either coach that won us a national title.

From 2000-2010 only Boise State and OU won more games than Texas and Mack Brown. Apparently being good at motivational speaking and hiring assistants led to more victories than all but two other programs. Bobby Bowden also somehow won a lot of football games the same way.

The two most successful coaches in the 2000s (Brown and Stoops) being in the same division does not mean the other “could not coach”. Stop and think about the argument for Mack Brown being a “bad coach.” The argument is “he did not win as many games as Bob Stoops in the 2000s. Bob Stoops won the most games. Mack Brown not winning the most games of any coach and only winning the second most games makes him a bad coach.” That’s moronic. If Brown and Stoops are not in each other’s division, they both win even more and probably face each other in multiple national title games.

You do not win a 100+ games in a decade if you “cant coach”. :rolleyes1: The stats do not lie.
 
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Didn't really appreciate 63-14 65-13 and so on.....also didn't appreciate leaving the zone read and screwing Gilbert.....didn't appreciate Colt McCoy glorification to detriment of team (national championship). Yes am appreciative of national title but wouldn't have gotten it without Vince (let Vince be Vince)
 
Mack Brown ended Nebraska's 47 game home winning streak in 1998, finished 8-1 against Nebraska and let them leave to the Big 10 with a Texas upset win in Lincoln over their #6 ranked team.
Mack Brown went 10-4 against A&M including sending them to the SEC with a loss at home to Texas. Those wins included a lot of curb stomping.
Mack Brown left us with a 52-10 scoreboard over Arkansas as well and left us with scoreboard over OU.
Mack Brown went 10-4 in bowl games. That is the most bowl victories of any Texas coach. Those include wins over Jackie Sherrill, Lloyd Carr and Michigan, Pete Carroll and USC, Kirk Ferentz and Iowa, Jim Tressel and Ohio State and revenge over Jeff Tedford and Cal.
Mack Brown went 8-2 against Mike Leach and never lost to Texas Tech in Austin.
Mack Brown beat Nick Saban and LSU in the Cotton Bowl (without Vince Young).
Mack Brown led Texas to five top 5 finishes and seven top 10 finishes.
There were countless all americans, NFL players, award winners, DBU, etc.
In 2008, we were a crabtree play away from being the first and only team in history to beat 4 top 15 teams in a row in consecutive weeks (this has still never happened).

All of this is something a bad coach could do.... not.

But yeah, focus on the negative from the winningest decade in Texas football history. Makes football way more fun.
 
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zuckercanyon said:
Yes am appreciative of national title but wouldn't have gotten it without Vince (let Vince be Vince)
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You could say this about most any successful team. Who recruited VY and put him in a position to be a champion? Mack gets credit for that.

Nobody likes the bad losses Mack had but he also had us in TWO national title games, and should have been there in 2008 as well. How many coaches do that?
 
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Htown77 said:
Mack Brown ended Nebraska's 47 game home winning streak in 1998 and finished 8-1 against Nebraska and let them leave to the Big 10 with an upset win in Lincoln over their #6 ranked team.
Mack Brown went 10-4 against A&M including sending them to the SEC with a loss at home to Texas. Those wins included a lot of curb stomping.
Mack Brown left us with a 52-10 scoreboard over Arkansas as well and left us with scoreboard over OU.
Mack Brown went 10-4 in bowl games. That is the most bowl victories of any Texas coach. Those include wins over Jackie Sherrill, Lloyd Carr and Michigan, Pete Carroll and USC, Kirk Ferentz and Iowa, Jim Tressel and Ohio State and revenge over Jeff Tedfrod and Cal.
Mack Brown went 8-2 against Mike Leach and never lost to Texas Tech in Austin.


Mack Brown beat Nick Saban in the Cotton Bowl (without Vince Young).
Mack Brown led Texas to five top 5 finishes and seven top 10 finishes.
There were countless all americans, NFL players, award winners, DBU, etc.
In 2008, we were a crabtree play away from being the first team in history to beat 4 top 15 teams in a row in consecutive weeks (this has still never happened).

All of this is something a bad coach could do.... not.

But yeah, focus on the negative from the winningest decade in Texas football history. Makes football way more fun.
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Point taken.
 
Dionysus said:
You could say this about most any successful team. Who recruited VY and put him in a position to be a champion? Mack gets credit for that.

Nobody likes the bad losses Mack had but he also had us in TWO national title games, and should have been there in 2008 as well. How many coaches do that?
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Not many.
 
Dionysus said:
You could say this about most any successful team. Who recruited VY and put him in a position to be a champion? Mack gets credit for that.

Nobody likes the bad losses Mack had but he also had us in TWO national title games, and should have been there in 2008 as well. How many coaches do that?
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Aggies chose Reggie McNeil. Didn’t work out as well.
 
My take is this (I bet you can't wait!):

1) Mack Brown is now a Texas legend because he delivered a national championship and had this team consistently in the top ten for a long stretch while competing against coaches such as Bob Stoops, Mike Leach, Art Briles, Mike Gundy, Mark Mangino and Bill Snyder among others.
2) You have to admit it; for a while there we were all enjoying it immensely.
3) "Let Vince be Vince": Yes, and he did.
4) When Vince scored the winning touchdown against USC: Better than sex?
5) The Colt era was also about winning at a very high level. We'd take that now.

The problems appear to be that he started coasting and stayed too long. Believe me, I was ready for him to go as much as anyone else. The bad feelings at the end are still being remembered and maybe should be forgotten just like the end-times for Tom Landry were after Jerry fired him.
 
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