Will Mack Brown be blue again?

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What I heard was he looked at other jobs while he was special assistant to the AD or whatever the title was not while still coaching the team.
 
FWHORN said:
second greatest coach in Texas history and gave us one NC and nine straight ten plus win seasons
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and two conference championships. I loved Mack ... but I think this may be over the top.

this performance would warrant a statue at Baylor ... not Texas.

Incredibly, Tom Herman has Texas playing for a conference championship in his second year. So in 3 years he could have as many conference championships as Mack had in 15 on the 40 Acres.

We played second fiddle to oU for a decade; and it's not like oU is John Blake's oU.

It's time to right the ship and we have that chance in 72 hours.

Ok. Cool

HOOK 'EM!
 
and two conference championships. I loved Mack ... but I think this may be over the top.

this performance would warrant a statue atBaylor ... not Texas.
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A national title would warrant a statue at all schools, including this school, as a total of two people have successfully won one here.
1 national title > 20 conference titles.

For all his conference titles, Bob Stoops won the same number of national titles as Mack Brown.

Do TCU fans remember winning the mountain west in 2010 or remember winning the Rose Bowl more?

20 years from now, will the average fan remember what the SWC even was? What if the Big 12 folds?

Conference titles are a big deal for places like Baylor and Kansas State where they are not national title contenders and the conference is all the can hope to win.

Nothing beats a national title, especially an undefeated unanimous national title.

Most fans can say DKR won 3 national titles. How many remember the exact number of conference titles he won without looking it up?
 
Htown77 said:
Most fans can say DKR won 3 national titles. How many remember the exact number of conference titles he won without looking it up?
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Perhaps that's because the number is unbelievable in a 19 year tenure ... without looking it up.

05 was an awesome season and I'm thankful for it. I'm also thankful for 09 playing for the NC ... but two conference championships in 15 years doesn't cut it and that's why Mack hasn't been the Texas HC for 5 years, now.

I guess we'll just disagree on this point. Mack was a really good one and I am thankful to and for him. He didn't produce as well as Coach Royal, so my druther would be ... "hold off" on deifying a coach who didn't earn it ... just because it's been so very long.
 
He is not as good as DKR. No one disputes that. However, he is the second best coach in school history.

Conference titles by UT head coach:
DKR: 11
Dana Bible: 3
John Mackovic: 3*
Mack Brown: 2
Fred Akers: 2
Clyde Littlefield: 2
Ed Price: 2
David McWilliams: 1
Blair Cherry: 1
Berry Whitaker: 1
Bill Juneau: 1
Eugene Van Gent: 1
Charlie Strong: 0
Jack Chevigny: 0

*In 1994, A&M had the best conference record but was on probation, and an 8-4 Texas team shared a conference title in a 5 way tie with Baylor, TCU, Tech and Rice. One of the problems with conference titles as a standard is they are inconsistent and screwy. Are the 8-4 1994 Texas Longhorns who finished ranked #23 (and ironically beat Mack Brown in the Sun Bowl) better for falling into a situation that allowed them share a conference title with four other teams than the 11-1 2004 Rose Bowl Champ Texas Longhorns that finished #4 and lost the conference to 12-1 OU which played for the national title? Which was the better team and coaching job? The 2001, 2002, 2004 and 2008 Longhorns are better than a lot of UT teams that won conference titles. The 08 team actually tied with OU and Tech and should have been at least co-champs, but got screwed because people like Art Briles voted us low and we lost the BCS tiebreaker.

In general, only DKR has won a bunch of conference titles. That’s what makes him the best. After him, Mack Brown is easily the second most accomplished coach. For third, it is debatable between Akers, Dana Bible and possibly Blair Cherry.

Overall win % on coaches since the 1930s:
DKR: .774
Mack Brown: .767
Blair Cherry: .756
Fred Akers: .731
Clyde Littlefield: .691
Dana Bible: .665
Tom Herman: .640 (so far)
John Mackovic: .592
Ed Price: .549
David McWilliams: .544
Jack Chevigny: .483
Charlie Strong: .433

Yep, Brown is the second best coach we have had.

On a side note, if Herman wins Saturday, Charlie Strong will be the only Texas head coach without a conference title since 1936.
 
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conference titles are screwy ... and the popularity contest natties aren't?

There have been but a few undisputed national titles ... and Brown's is one of 'em.

Perhaps I'm still irritated that he didn't act when he needed to act to avoid the 4+ year slide.

oh ... Cherry's def higher than Akers. My impression of Fred Akers will be the guy Coach Royal told to run the camera back on that play during Longhorn club luncheons. Perhaps unfair ... but that's my memory of him.
 
moondog_LFZ said:
$17 million over 5 years.
Seems a little on the cheap side for a MNC winning coach.
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Doubt money was the motivating factor here...it gave him a chance to go home and ride off into the sunset. It still allows Sally to buy a metric phuckton of orange slices...
 
ShAArk92 said:
My impression of Fred Akers will be the guy Coach Royal told to run the camera back on that play during Longhorn club luncheons.
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My impression of Fred Akers was a coach who coached under Royal for 9 years, rising to co-OC, and upon returning to HC at Texas took a 5-5-1 team with an overweight, out-of-position Earl Campbell (Royal had him as a fullback, not a tailback) in an aging offense (the triple option wishbone), slimmed Earl down, dotted the I with him, and promptly in his first year took Texas back to a No. 1 ranking and an 11-0 regular season record.

Well, we disagree on Akers.
 
blonthang said:
Texas back to a No. 1 ranking and an 11-0 regular season record.
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OK ... I'll give Akers credit for putting Earl in a position to dominate. Unfortunately, Earl didn't have 10 years of eligibility.

Another Texas coach did the same thing a year or two later down in Houston.

I'm sure Fred was a nice guy and I mean no disrespect, but I don't think he was HC material. The insecure administration seemed poised to sacrifice the University's success in football to put a particular coach in his place.

If Mike Campbell would have succeeded Royal ... well, If and buts ...
 
Yeah, I'm sure Mike would have done a good job, was certainly DKR's pick, but Frank Erwin wouldn't have any part of it.

Pretty sure Akers, when he returned, also sort of rebuffed DKR which led to a cool relationship between the two after that.

Hook 'em
 
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