What's Going on at University of Missouri?
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If a football team from Missouri goes on strike, would football really suffer?
He also claims MU has been an unsafe place for AA's forever. Yet he chose to go to undergraduate school there, THEN continued on to post graduate work.
Also, the student president claims a similar institutional racism problem, yet he was elected as student president despite MU having less than 16% AA population. Go figure.
Good news! If anyone says something mean, you can call 911 and get then kicked out of the University of Missouri. If they kick every person out of school that says something mean, they should eventually get to the poop nazi. Remember, always call 911 if someone says something mean in Columbia, Missouri and report it to the police. That person might just turn out to be the poop nazi.
Here is a grievence of the students that has not been addressed. A mob of angry students blocked the president's car and he did not get out and attempt to address their issues. Everyone knows that when a mob of angry people blocks your car, most people get out of their car and attempt to talk reason to the angry mob.
I am sure if an african american student protester was driving, their car got blocked by a mob of angry white people, the mob of angry white people asked the african america student to "get out and talk to us", the african american student would certainly get out of the car and attempt to reason with the angry white mob.
In fact, if people of any race are driving and their car is stopped by an angry mob that could consist of any group of people, most people would get out of their car and attempt to reason with the angry mob.
The president's failure to get out of his car and confront the angry mob further demonstrates he is a poop nazi sympathizer.
Larry T Spider
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I keep thinking there is more to this story because just about everybody involved with the university in any way turned their back on the pres. But, I haven't heard anything makes me think he is an ******* yet. He hasn't admitted his white male privilege to a group of angry black people? He didn't act decisively enough on the poop swastika issue? The whole thing sounds like a bunch of angry people that dont really know what they are mad about.
NJlonghorn
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Perfectly said. The contrast between the Missouri situation the Yale situation is telling. In both cases, the grievances (or at least, what I know about them) are strained, if not totally bogus. But in both cases, there were hundreds of students who were unhappy about something, and all they wanted (initially, at first) was to be taken seriously.
Missouri ignored the problems until they blew out of proportion. They then announced that a series of reforms would be unveiled to address the concerns -- in April. The protestors saw this as too little, too late.
In contrast, when things stated to heat up at Yale, the professor/associate master at the center of things scheduled a community meeting for later the same day to hear the protests and discuss what could be done. The dean of the undergraduate college did the same. The university president was accosted by a group of students while walking through campus, and stood there for over 4 hours. Who knows whether any "reforms" will come of it, but they took the situation seriously, from the very get-go. It is not yet clear how things will play out at Yale, but they will get points for listening.
NJlonghorn
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I just looked at the Missouri student group's list of demands. Some of them are ridiculous -- especially the first one. But some (especially #s VI and VII) are not nearly as ridiculous, and might even have a kernel of merit.
Clean
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That almost happened to me in grade school. I recited a mean spirited version of "Roses are red, violets are blue" to a girl I didn't like and earned a trip to the Principal's office.
This whole thing is a tempest in a teapot, fueled by social media and a slavering main stream media just dying to jump on the bandwagon. That's why it was so dumb for the protestors to keep the media out of the party.
I see Melissa Click, an assistant prof., resigned after first confronting student journalists trying to cover the story and then calling for muscle to throw them out.
Genius!
IDK what the deal is, but apparently neither does anyone else ... at least not according to Joe SBrough ...
I'd like to know more specifics about what the University did that was so dismissive. Did they refuse to meet with the students? Did they ask for specific proposals? Did the students get tossed out of the President's office?
I sense disagreement between old hippies, who advocated for free speech, the expectation that students will be challenged, and the confronting of "bad speech" with "good speech" rather than censorship, and the recent rise of kids who think they're entitled to never be offended or have anything rude said to them. Liberal columnist Ruth Marcus (who's a Baby Boomer) illustrates this.
I sense disagreement between old hippies, who advocated for free speech, the expectation that students will be challenged, and the confronting of "bad speech" with "good speech" rather than censorship, and the recent rise of kids who think they're entitled to never be offended or have anything rude said to them. Liberal columnist Ruth Marcus (who's a Baby Boomer) illustrates this.
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Another article illustrating the opposing view.
Frankly, I don't understand how this guy gets taken seriously as an intellectual (teaches at the University of Connecticut). His position is built almost entirely with unsupported presumptions, myths, and subjectivity, and it's hard to believe that people actually listen to him.
This quote pretty much sums it up.
So (1) not everyone's free speech right is equal and (2) people like Cobb should have the right to choose who has what rights according to their arbitrary classifications of who is "powerful" and who is "disempowered."
Frankly, I don't understand how this guy gets taken seriously as an intellectual (teaches at the University of Connecticut). His position is built almost entirely with unsupported presumptions, myths, and subjectivity, and it's hard to believe that people actually listen to him.
This quote pretty much sums it up.
So (1) not everyone's free speech right is equal and (2) people like Cobb should have the right to choose who has what rights according to their arbitrary classifications of who is "powerful" and who is "disempowered."
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Deez,
I was told the Mizzou Pres & Chancellor failed at crisis management from earlier this semester ... unspecified racist activity on campus (IDK if my source means other than that which has been claimed/referenced in the media already) ... then the activists stopped a parade in which the Pres was riding, stayed in his car, then the driver "clipped" one of the activists. and the Pres took a month in writing an apology. No link, no specific reference, but I do trust this guy.
From CNN
I find this Jonathan Bentley fella to be a curious poster child for the effort. He's hardly lacking and plus/minus his inability to disregard being the target of a racial slur, is hardly being oppressed.
His problem about the healthcare insurance ... how ironic ... the guy he vehemently supports in office is the guy who led the Fed Law (the bill which had to be passed to be read!) mandated grad students get booted off parents' insurance. And with HIM as a specific example of matriculation (8 years?) He'd have been kicked-off under the previous system, too, and pushing even BHO's extension for undergrads!
PP??? As if there are no other places to get legitimate services. It’s been well documented the only non-abortion action which is substantively expensive (started to say service) & PP does in any significant capacity is REFERRAL. I think PP needs to be dispatched, at least the public funding of it which is sufficient to operate and maintain the entire fleet of A-10s. We could DOUBLE our fleet of A-10s with what we’re paying PP! (500 mill/year) (congressional hearing link; what I find entertaining is the fact the chiefs being questioned created this congresswoman LOL … they act like they have the best answer, but for someone who’s actually been there and commanded, they are outgunned … they have been polishing leather chairs too long … anyhow … BACK to the topic)
Therefore, it’s a real challenge to empathize with the plight as presented … to actually understand the legitimate concerns when the narrative is so full of nonsense … and irony (healthcare insurance issue). There’s a LOT of chaff sifting which needs to be done just to arrive at what’s discussable. Is that by design, the anarchist tactic to “get more?”
I think it was Morgan Freeman's offering on the race issue: stop talking about it with every breath. Stop making racist claims for every injustice, every infraction, and every incident. OK, there’s work to be done, but like the Moral Majority couldn’t save every soul via legislative action, nor can Al Sharpton and the black activists “cure racism” by claiming all such words/actions which aren’t edifying a black man be another example of racism.
I was told the Mizzou Pres & Chancellor failed at crisis management from earlier this semester ... unspecified racist activity on campus (IDK if my source means other than that which has been claimed/referenced in the media already) ... then the activists stopped a parade in which the Pres was riding, stayed in his car, then the driver "clipped" one of the activists. and the Pres took a month in writing an apology. No link, no specific reference, but I do trust this guy.
From CNN
I find this Jonathan Bentley fella to be a curious poster child for the effort. He's hardly lacking and plus/minus his inability to disregard being the target of a racial slur, is hardly being oppressed.
His problem about the healthcare insurance ... how ironic ... the guy he vehemently supports in office is the guy who led the Fed Law (the bill which had to be passed to be read!) mandated grad students get booted off parents' insurance. And with HIM as a specific example of matriculation (8 years?) He'd have been kicked-off under the previous system, too, and pushing even BHO's extension for undergrads!
PP??? As if there are no other places to get legitimate services. It’s been well documented the only non-abortion action which is substantively expensive (started to say service) & PP does in any significant capacity is REFERRAL. I think PP needs to be dispatched, at least the public funding of it which is sufficient to operate and maintain the entire fleet of A-10s. We could DOUBLE our fleet of A-10s with what we’re paying PP! (500 mill/year) (congressional hearing link; what I find entertaining is the fact the chiefs being questioned created this congresswoman LOL … they act like they have the best answer, but for someone who’s actually been there and commanded, they are outgunned … they have been polishing leather chairs too long … anyhow … BACK to the topic)
Therefore, it’s a real challenge to empathize with the plight as presented … to actually understand the legitimate concerns when the narrative is so full of nonsense … and irony (healthcare insurance issue). There’s a LOT of chaff sifting which needs to be done just to arrive at what’s discussable. Is that by design, the anarchist tactic to “get more?”
I think it was Morgan Freeman's offering on the race issue: stop talking about it with every breath. Stop making racist claims for every injustice, every infraction, and every incident. OK, there’s work to be done, but like the Moral Majority couldn’t save every soul via legislative action, nor can Al Sharpton and the black activists “cure racism” by claiming all such words/actions which aren’t edifying a black man be another example of racism.
Clean
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The article below mentions that the Butler pad is in Omaha and worth $1.3 million! That's a lot of house in Nebraska.
It also references "The Immaculate Defecation", the poopstika, that nobody got a picture of or even saw. Kind of strange in this era of cell phone cameras, eh?
Funny stuff. This whole incident is the most overblown, hysterical reaction by any major organization that I can recall. Just goes to show you what a mess the country is in.
http://www.foxsports.com/college-fo...he-entire-mizzou-protest-based-on-lies-111115
It also references "The Immaculate Defecation", the poopstika, that nobody got a picture of or even saw. Kind of strange in this era of cell phone cameras, eh?
Funny stuff. This whole incident is the most overblown, hysterical reaction by any major organization that I can recall. Just goes to show you what a mess the country is in.
http://www.foxsports.com/college-fo...he-entire-mizzou-protest-based-on-lies-111115
One of my favorite quotes and seems somewhat appropriate for this topic. It is sad to see that students and professors of an institution of higher learning are so incapable of independent thought and threatened by dissenting viewpoints. Unfortunately schools and universities have become liberal propaganda machines rather than places where people actually learned how to think for themselves.
Larry T Spider
100+ Posts
The old guard also is often much more into rigorous academics and pushing students in their courses. These kids want marginal students retained. That brings down the overall level of instruction and forces profs to spend more time supporting kids missing prerequisite skills. The bottom line is that the old academic liberals aren't into coddling. This group wants everything handed to them.
It makes me wonder where the coddling came from. Somebody is pushing it.
Larry T Spider
100+ Posts
Public schools. We have been forced into it in almost every state. The substantial shift came when we started blaming schools and teachers for students' failures instead of students. When students didn't graduate, it became the school's fault. When the kids failed it became the schools fault. When the kids got punished for poor behavior it became the schools fault. There is literally nothing that can happen in the academic setting that is the students fault anymore. College has been the dividing line where students are required to be more responsible for their behavior, grades, etc. It's no surprise that it creates tension for the students that have been fed a line of BS about the world.
So, who is to blame? Politicians of course. When you shut down schools with low graduation rates, what do you expect schools to do? Graduate kids. When you punish teachers that fail kids, what do you expect teachers to do? Pass kids at all costs.
So, who is to blame? Politicians of course. When you shut down schools with low graduation rates, what do you expect schools to do? Graduate kids. When you punish teachers that fail kids, what do you expect teachers to do? Pass kids at all costs.
Joe Fan
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The student reporter who filmed the prof above has filed charges with the police (simple assault). The MOPOPO havent said yet if they will charge her (and yes, I had been waiting to type that).
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/nov/12/melissa-click-university-of-missouri-assistant-pro/
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/nov/12/melissa-click-university-of-missouri-assistant-pro/
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