What if it was not the Russians?

Collin Country uses a system with a touch screen but then after reviewing it prints out the ballot you then place in a scanner which tabulates your vote.
 
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If you think low tech pencil and paper voting is more secure than all of these touch screen, electronic tabulators, then yes. We agree.
 
Charges of Ukrainian Meddling? A Russian Operation, U.S. Intelligence Says

WASHINGTON — Republicans have sought for weeks amid the impeachment inquiry to shift attention to President Trump’s demands that Ukraine investigate any 2016 election meddling, defending it as a legitimate concern while Democrats accuse Mr. Trump of pursuing fringe theories for his benefit.

The Republican defense of Mr. Trump became central to the impeachment proceedings when Fiona Hill, a respected Russia scholar and former senior White House official, added a harsh critique during testimony on Thursday. She told some of Mr. Trump’s fiercest defenders in Congress that they were repeating “a fictional narrative.” She said that it likely came from a disinformation campaign by Russian security services, which also propagated it.

In a briefing that closely aligned with Dr. Hill’s testimony, American intelligence officials informed senators and their aides in recent weeks that Russia had engaged in a yearslong campaign to essentially frame Ukraine as responsible for Moscow’s own hacking of the 2016 election, according to three American officials. The briefing came as Republicans stepped up their defenses of Mr. Trump in the Ukraine affair.

The revelations demonstrate Russia’s persistence in trying to sow discord among its adversaries — and show that the Kremlin apparently succeeded, as unfounded claims about Ukrainian interference seeped into Republican talking points. American intelligence agencies believe Moscow is likely to redouble its efforts as the 2020 presidential campaign intensifies. The classified briefing for senators also focused on Russia’s evolving influence tactics, including its growing ability to better disguise operations.

But the campaign by Russian intelligence in recent years has been even more complex as Moscow tries not only to undermine the government in Kyiv but also to use a disinformation campaign there to influence the American political debate.
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Horn6721 said:
Whoa
and Trump repaid Putin by sending weaponry to Ukraine so it could fight Russia.
Ingrate
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The weaponry that he sent to Ukraine is supposed to be kept on the western border (or at least a few hundred miles west of the front)...away from Vlad. I'm sure you're surprised, right?

Also, raise your hand if you're shocked that the sale of the weaponry syncs up perfectly with the time that Ukraine stopped cooperating with Mueller's investigation into Manafort/Ukraine/Russia.

Ukraine’s Successful Courtship of Trump
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Michael Carpenter, a former deputy assistant secretary of defense with responsibility for Russia, Ukraine, Eurasia, and the Balkans, told me that “storing anti-tank missiles hundreds of miles from the front lines defeats the whole purpose of using these weapons as a deterrent” and “drastically reduces their effectiveness.”

“The whole point is to make your adversary think twice about the numbers of casualties they might sustain as a result of their tanks coming under fire,” Carpenter said.
 
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OUBubba said:
LOL. Andrea Chalupa. That's like saying that there's a child pedophile ring running out of the basement of pizza parlor in Virginia...that has no basement.
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Except that the Ukrainian embassy has Chalupa on record of her asking for dirt on Manafort. Your reliable sources that told you that Trump colluded with Russia, the kids were racist against the Native American, and that Stormy Daniels was going to take out Trump didn't tell you that part, did they? ;)
 
Bubba
Maybe you should tell your POTUS candidates the military weaponry is not needed against Russia. They and many even those who testified yesterday were outraged Trump put Ukraine at risk from Russia.
 
OUBubba said:
The weaponry that he sent to Ukraine is supposed to be kept on the western border (or at least a few hundred miles west of the front)...away from Vlad. I'm sure you're surprised, right?

Also, raise your hand if you're shocked that the sale of the weaponry syncs up perfectly with the time that Ukraine stopped cooperating with Mueller's investigation into Manafort/Ukraine/Russia.

Ukraine’s Successful Courtship of Trump
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Michael Carpenter, a former deputy assistant secretary of defense with responsibility for Russia, Ukraine, Eurasia, and the Balkans, told me that “storing anti-tank missiles hundreds of miles from the front lines defeats the whole purpose of using these weapons as a deterrent” and “drastically reduces their effectiveness.”

“The whole point is to make your adversary think twice about the numbers of casualties they might sustain as a result of their tanks coming under fire,” Carpenter said.
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We're afraid that the weapons will fall into Russian hands like it has before. Besides, Ukraine is only the size of Texas. These weapons can get into the front lines pretty quick if need be.
U.S., Ukraine Try to Ensure Weapons Don’t Fall to Enemy
 
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Bubba
I admit I did not know there were restrictions that our weaponry we sent Ukraine had to be kept on the western border.
Do you have a link for that?
 
Horn6721 said:
Bubba
I admit I did not know there were restrictions that our weaponry we sent Ukraine had to be kept on the western border.
Do you have a link for that?
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I've read about it and it's true. Like I said they did it because they don't want the Russians getting it.
 
well that makes sense and then frees up Ukrainian weaponry currently on western border to be sent to border with Russia
 
OUBubba said:
The weaponry that he sent to Ukraine is supposed to be kept on the western border (or at least a few hundred miles west of the front)...away from Vlad. I'm sure you're surprised, right?

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Obama was awesome in the way he provided weaponry to Ukraine before he left office. Too bad Trump dismantled all that good **** Obama did for Ukraine.....

This is a joke, only the far left is drinking the cool aid.

Obama offers nothing substantive to Ukraine, Trump did

Biden got a QPQ from the Ukrainian govt AND got his son a sweet gig on the board of Burisma. Trump wants to investigate the obvious corruption, and is going to be impeached for it

Explain that next November. Good luck, sweetheart
 
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Bubba
How far is the western border from Russia? What is the range of the Javelins we sent?
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Western border is probably inaccurate. A few hundred miles is what the quote read. The range is 2,500 meters. There's a significant delta there.
 
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