Way to go AM!!!

Well Jody went undefeated when I was in school which was a time when our men's program pretty much hit absolute rock bottom. So, I will always be grateful to her for that. In reality she had the best team going a few other times but just that one title year. Where have I heard that before?
 
Great game and im proud of the Aggies as i was pulling hard for them to win. Even with the loss of Adams and Colson, I think they will be one of the favorites to win it in 2012. They have an outstanding recruiting class coming in next year plus transfer Kelsey Bone will be eligible.
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Oh please.. your so called messiah has nothing to show these past 4 years other than 4 straight NCAA appearances, of which the last 3 were show the exit early by Mississippi, San Diego State and Marquette.

Your "obsession" of me is flattery and not requested.

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Seattle, I've asked once before and I don't believ you responded so I'll ask again. Since you seem to be one of if not THE most outspoken poster against coach G. What were your expectations when she was hired, and what basis did you have for those expectations other than her million dollar salary? I would love for you to tell me about any program that was re-vamped over night?? It takes time. And subtract Cokies injury we have atleast 5 maybe 6 more wins this year which would've put us at about 25-6. And probably a top 25 top 15 year. I'm not interested in blaming a coach without examining all the facts and those are facts. Am also not a fan of blaming coaches for things they can't control. You tell me what areas she shouldve improved in by now that we haven't.............as a fan base in all sports, we have to get away from that mentality that "we're Texas so success she be instant and promised" none or our dominant sports have gone without hardships. We are no different. Success is on the horizon
 
I've also asked Seattle very specific questions about some of his previous posts, none of which he has answered. I've even given examples where one post has contradicted another and he hasn't responded to those either. Many of us have been complimentary of Blair and his big win last night, and rightly so. But when Seattle says it's "cool to see the Aggies win it," and that Bone was "wise to choose a WINNER," his true feelings are pretty clear. How about acknowledging that it took Blair 26 years to win a NC. He went 25 years with only one Final Four to his credit, and nine years - or more than a third of his career - without making the NCAA tourney at all. GG had already been to four final fours and seven elite eights - and two championship game appearances - in her first 14 years as a coach. And it took Blair nine years to get to this point at A&M, and there were ups and downs along the way. He entered the NCAA tourney as the #2 seed the previous two seasons and was upset both times, last year in the second round to #7 seed Gonzaga. Can you imagine Seattle's reaction if the Horns had suffered an upset like that? But he doesn't seem to find fault with anyone other than GG - in fact he finds ways to praise others even when circumstances don't warrant it. All credit to Blair for what he accomplished this season but let's recognize it took him a lifetime of coaching to get to this point. If you want to have a conversation about the program or coaching or expectations, that's fine. But most of Seattle's comments aren't designed to elicit further discussion, and when others attempt to engage him - and respond specifically to what he's posted - he isn't interested.
 
UTFanForLife, I didn't see your response. Must have been in the other posts where flamers (or make that trolls) shot down my opinions about Coach G and her Texas program. First off, I don't have my pitch fork and/or torch ready...yet.

When Coach G was hired, I didn't expect a national championship when she held her first practice. I was hoping to see a culture change.. from the very first get-go of "thinking and acting like champions", you would have expected some fundamental change in attitude and play. Obviously, the "heralded" #1 Class of 2005 did no better with a new coach. You can argue that the players were just overrated and not team-oriented with the divas playing together.

Another expectation was to see Texas being competitive and at least in the upper half of the conference. With the forgettable year 4 down the tube, Texas placed 7th out of 12. Throw out Colorado and Nebraska and now you have Texas being better than just 3 Big 12 teams.

What is inexcuseable as a Texas coach in any sport is losing to your arch rivals for what, 11 consecutive times now? Who would have thought that this would ever happen under Coach G. Don't be surprised if that streak goes to 22 in a row for Coach Blair. With exception of that 68-65 loss, her teams have been BLOWN OUT of the water by A&M. Inexcuseable!

What's also disheartening is to hear Coach G "get Texas". Surely, the results of year 4 would not mean she "got Texas". Losing Cokie is an excuse by the sunshine pumpers. Most of the players on the team were recruited by Coach G, and you always have to wonder why she hasn't utilize the available scholarships to allow for depth in key positions.

I really don't get a rats behind about this upcoming Top 10 class. Until you can coach the team to their potential, this "next year" is all talk. Tell me, how can you lose to a rookie coach at Missouri? That in itself is inexcuseable. Even Baylor and OU blew Texas out of the water.,

Is it wrong to expect Texas to be at least competitive year in and year out? Coach McAllie of Duke was able to be competitive year in and year out, even without her recruits!!!

Has Texas even challenged for the Big 12 conference? Why has Texas continued to get Top 25 votes year in and year out until to end the year in a THUD? Why does Voepel continue to support Goestenkors and make Texas suffer from the return on investment outputted by the current product on the floor?

Why does this team always have to be behind in almost every game? Why does the team miss fundamentals like layups? Why does there appear to be team chemistry issues year in and year out? Give credit to Blair... even ESPN said the Aggies were the most cohesive team of the tourney.

Attendance at the FEC has dwindled too. The relevance of Texas in the WBB scene is no more. With A&M winning the championship in 2011, they now command the "powerhouse" program that Texas should have been year in and year out!

The "gift" by the NCAA this year to the Horns was by far overreaching and insulting. I couldn't believe how everyone was saying this is a new beginning, yet the results ended up being a microcosm of the pathetic 4th year that everyone expected a better year out of Goestenkors.

Mickie Demoss leaving was a blow to the stability of the Texas program. Go back to the news about her hiring and how she said Texas was the only place that would bring her out of retirement. Once she realized that this program FLOUNDERED, she took the next best opportunity of serving again with Coach Summitt at Tennessee.

I have no opinion on Coach Hughey. You would have thought that Demoss' replacement would have Texas ties.

Yes, I am now a vocal critic of Coach G. I'm tired of her supporters claiming the success she's had at Duke, yet the results of the 4 years at Texas are mediocre at best. People on this board continue to act as if there is nothing wrong. Please... and like I have said multiple times on her, Coach G was a great coach.......at Duke!

With Texas A&M winning the national championship, the expectations and pressure on Coach G increase in my opinion. Texas A&M and Baylor are the "in" schools for aspiring recruits. Texas Tech is coming around and will be no pushover.

I will give you that all programs go through hardships and Texas is no exception. I will be frank and say that I don't see any reason to think Texas will be better next year. I hope I'm wrong...dead wrong. But with the resources and expectations of a flagship University, there leaves no room for mediocrity.

You have to think somestimes whether Plonsky is all foam and no beer. I can bet you that she never would have thought Goestenkors would have lost 11 straight in a row to Texas A&M at the time of signing Goestenkors to lead the Texas program.

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I will be here. I will give credit when it's deserved.

You're the one who said Coach G will last longer than me on this board.

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Congratulations to the Lady Aggys. Good for you and the Big 12-2. I was most happy to see UConn, Tennessee, Baylor and ND not win.
 
Seattle I respect your opinions just as I do all other posters. However I am far from a "sunshine pumper" I'm just a realist. Being a coach I expect to win, however I know if I lose my best player the chances of that happening are slim to none. You often reference the losses to a&m, and it bugs me also. But I tend to look at the face that they were the better team everygame and it would've been considered upset for us to have won. Losing to and inferior rival is unacceptable but when theyre the better team hands down then there's not much the name on the jersey can change. Coach Blair is 1-2 at the final four and his trips were 15 years apart I believe?? You can't just look at where the programs are now you have to look at what it took and how long it took for them to get there. And to all the 3 recruits you mentioned you failed to mention that they grow up miles and minutes away from they're selected programs while they were at the pinnacle of their success so thats a large part of it. Lets just try to look at the big picture in order to provide accurate analysis.
 
Seattle, I'll give you the comment about people bringing up GG's record at Duke. Personally, I don't care what she did at another program - I only care about what she's done at Texas.

I've tended to support you just because everyone else on the board seems to have a singular opinion about the program, which is kind of annoying. However, you do tend to sound like a broken record when it comes to your comments. You never seem to have any opinions that don't lead back to your dislike for GG. Dude, broaden your interests! You CAN comment on something else. It might make others take you a little more seriously.
 
We will be right there with AM and Baylor next year!
GG will get the job done.
BELIEVE!
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Seattle – First, I’m happy to that you took the time to explain some of your opinions. Everyone has a right to their own, but they are much better received by those with differing opinions when explained. I don’t agree with some of your opinions, but lots of people don’t agree with most of mine.

I’m not sure that people can be accurately labeled flamers or trolls just for expressing a different opinion. That is sort of what happens on message boards.

I think that the problem with the class of ’05 had more to do with every one of them suffering significant injuries than with attitude problems. Regardless I don’t think you can blame that on GG. I agree that I was looking for a culture change. My question would be – what would that look like? And especially, what would that look like if there was still a lack of physical talent, or depth, or experience, on any combination of those? How would you recognize that change? How long do you think it takes to change a culture? I don’t know if you are actually in Seattle or not. I’m in Austin and have been around the team and coaches as much as is reasonable for a normal season ticket holder. My perception is that the culture has been changing. But, the change is gradual. It is not like flipping a switch.

I agree that when GG was hired I expected Texas to be in the upper half of the conference by year four. I also expected the football team to have a winning record last season. Sometimes I find that I have to re-evaluate my expectations after the fact and find that with the benefit of hindsight they were not realistic. I know that you do not like the “Cokie Excuse”. But, that is going to be a place that we disagree. I don’t think she means a NC by herself. But, I do think she would have meant the top half of the conference. And, don’t forget that the Big 12 has not been playing a balanced schedule. The north has not been close to the south for a long time. Next season should even that out some.

I’m not happy with the losing streak to aggy either. But, that trend did not start with GG. And, if nothing else last night and this NCAA tournament showed just how good that aggy team has been. It is one thing to want to beat your rival. It is another to expect to beat one of the top teams in the country while rebuilding just because you are Texas. I hate that they have been really good. But, they have. Still, I think the average margin during the streak has been something like 14. I don’t know that is BLOWN OUT. A matter of perception, I guess.

I am with you about questioning the roster depth. I don’t know what the reasoning has been. But, that is finally being addressed.

I don’t agree with the inference that the talent on hand has not been coached to their potential. I thought this past season was overachieving for a team short on depth, and half freshmen.

Coach McAllie did not have anything close to the same situation at Duke. Taking over one of the top programs in the country is very different from rebuilding.

Why has Texas continued to get top 25 votes? I can only assume it is because a lot of people disagree with your assessment of the Texas WBB program. I’m not sure how Mechelle Voepel has made Texas suffer. You lost me there.

I know you have made reference in the past to what you see as chemistry issues. I am curious what you base that on. My perception was that this past season was the best full team effort in several years.

Attendance started to dwindle long before GG arrived. I started to complain about that at least seven years ago.

I certainly don’t think the NCAA tournament bid was a gift. I looked hard and couldn’t find a way to justify keeping them out. I thought it was close. But, the Texas resume looked very much like a lot of other good but not elite teams.

I see no significant impact from Coach Demoss leaving. I certainly think you are jumping to some unusual conclusions in your assumption about why. I think coach Hughey will ultimately prove to be a better fit.

No one here has said that there are no problems. People have said that they see progress, and feel the program is headed in the right direction. That is very different from being satisfied.

I see a lot of reasons to believe that Texas will be better next year. That is the statement that you make that baffles me the most, and the one that really matters. The past is done and we can all have our opinions about why things happened the way that they did. What is important is what do we expect going forward. I see what was a good freshmen class with another year of experience. I see not just the return of Cokie Reed, but several options to give Texas a strong inside game. I see am All-American point guard. I see more depth. I’m not predicting a NC, but I just don’t see how you cannot expect improvement.

I’m not trying to flame you. I’m just trying to explain why I disagree, and ask some questions about why you think what you about the program.
 
UTExeinPDX, ok I am willing to concede that I have failed to take the big picture into context. I am a pretty po'ed fan considering how the other programs have fared the past 4 years. Now that A&M has reached the top of the summit, next year like everyone has seem to be in agreement with makes it critical in terms of a good year.

I'll give the 2010-2011 season a rest...

You are right, Blair is indeed 1 for 2 in final fours.
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I look forward to next season! A new beginning. And plenty of talent on the team. By the way R.Hughley is the Coach that got J.Terry and C.Adams to come to Texas. And both are in the Top 10 in the 2013 Class.
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I'm certainly not "happy" that A&M won a national title; but, the team plays hard, and I give them credit for maximizing their potential.

As for how A&M got over the hump, you have to look at some key incidents:

1) Blair signs Sydney Colson in 2006 (Colson had a sibling or siblings at UT); Texas recruited her, but Jody already had commitments from forwards Kat Nash and Rachel Rentschler, and told Colson they had no available scholarships remaining

2) Pokey Chapman leaves LSU in mid-2007, and Tyra White requests release from her signed LOI; she ends up at A&M for the Fall

3) Blair signs JUCO Tanisha Smith in Spring 2008

4) Blair signs JUCO Danielle Adams in Spring 2009; this after Kelsey Bone signed with South Carolina; IIRC, if Bone had signed with A&M, there would have been no available scholarship for Adams

Sometimes things just fall into place. Those 3 Kansas City kids have been invaluable to A&M's recent success.

JUCO is one area I would like for Coach G to be more active.
 
Should be noted that before player intros at the UT/A&M softball game last night, A&M was congratulated by the PA announcer for the WBB Championship and applauded by Texas' fans.

A touch of class !
 
'JUCO is one area I would like for Coach G to be more active.'

That's really harsh Mooooo. Surely she will at least get a job at a 4 year institution....
 

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