Top Chef Restaurant wars

The highly obnoxious lady who totally botched two dishes should have gotten the boot. She has been very close to getting kicked off several times.
 
the chick and spike need to be the next two to go. Dale shoudl have been allowed to hang around another week based on his previous weeks of quality. the chick has been nothing but an excuse making, biyatch for weeks.
 
They should have kicked off that entire team and been down to the final three of Stephanie, Richard and Antonia. Dale was an insufferable jerk who had to go.

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Dale got the boot bc the executive chef went down w/ the ship.

On the other end, the executive chef should have gotten the prize. Risk vs. Reward.
 
I thought all season it would come down to Richard and Dale. So much for that. I think now it will be Richard vs Stephanie
 
Dave? Who is Dave?


I think this is Richard's to lose. He is by far the most talented. A guy like CJ or Brian would be #2 in this season.


The Lesbian lady was out of line when she pointed out that Andrew didn't follow the rules.


Dale is a prick, but I think alot of that was for show.
 
I agree, since the leader takes the greater blame, then they should get the greater reward.

The top three were Richard, Stephanie and Dale. Dale is gone... we can only hope that Lisa and Spike aren't long behind them.

As to Dale's personality... this isn't survivor, personality has nothing to do with it. Dale was the better chef and he went home because he was unable to manage someone who would not be managed. I can't remember the last time Lisa WASN'T in the bottom group. She's long passed earned a ticket home.
 
I like this show, but it is majorly flawed in that there is almost zero carry over from week to week on the performance of the contestants in the judges minds.

There is no real incentive to take the lead in any competition, because you have to bare the burden of your team ******* up, but your life on the show won't be extended by heading the winning team (you might get a Glad gift package though). How were the judges so impressed with Spike's picking front of house in Restaurant Wars? That's been the obvious move since I've watched the show.
 
3yd, I actually respect the fact tht they judge each week on its own merits. Regardless of your feelings on Spike's wussy decision, he didn't deserve to go home this week. I would argue that Lisa did for screwing up everything she touched, but I understand the case for Dale as well.

That said, Spike can make it to the finale by dodging bullets and staying in the middle, but he can't win... nor should he be able to for that. This isn't survivor, and you don't get respect just for making it. You win or go home on the merits or the product you produce.
 
3 you are right about this year. But last year, they gave that dude Howie a pass because he was a talented chef. And actually, Howie is definitely better than any chef left, other than Richard.


Scott, I understand the confusion now. They're both heavyset, fruity guys.


As executive chef, you don't let crap go out of your kitchen if it sux. He knew the soup tasted smokey.
 
I'm a little irked by the concept of there being an executive chef in restaurant wars, personally. Lisa cooked two items by herself and they were both terrible. Dale cooked three items completely by himself and while one sucked, both of the others got good comments (particularly the desert). Dale went home because Lisa was terrible and he (as the executie chef) shouldn't have let her send out crap. If the executive chef is responsible for all of the product out of the kitchen exclusively, then lets stop pretending like anyone else is participating in Restaurant Wars at all.

That said, if the EC is going to take all of the blame, then they should take all of the reward as well... meaning that Stephanie should not have won on the other side. It just seems a little arbitrary and I wish each persons effort would be judged individually even if that is less like a real restaurant.
 
They offered a choice of two items for each of the three courses.

The App course, they hated her offering (Laksa) and thought his was decent/good (can't remember what he made).

The Entree course, they hated his offering (the butterscotch scallop) and loved the collaborative Short Rib (Spike's recipe, Dale/Lisa both contributed).

The Dessert course, they thought hers was so bad it should not have been served (rice pudding) and thought his (avacado mix thing) was really good.

They served only two items the judges liked without equivocation, the short rib and Dale's dessert.
 
There is an awful lot of finger pointing this season, and conversely, Dale and Spike were also fighting for credit for the ribs.
 
perhaps dale should not have let LIsa's items go out, and she would have gotten cut. That would have made him a de facto judge so he may not have even had the option of not allowing her food.
 
Does Dale have the authority to pull all of her contribution from the line... I mean, ultimately they are peers, right? The whole thing seems like a mess to me, and adding in an "executive chef" just makes it more confusing and not less. Spike was hiding from the word go (Stephanie cooked a dish and did front of the house), Lisa completely fell a part and Dale did not comport himself well as a leader... but in fairness, he failed at leading a team who likely could not be led regardless. We are left with one very good item which was shared equally, two decent-good items which were exclusively Dale, and three bad items (Dale, Lisa and Lisa).

If I had to set an order for the remaining contestants, I would say....

1. Richard
2. Stephanie
3. Antonia
4. Lisa
5. Spike

Dale would have either shared the three spot or had it outright. The gap between 1 and 2 is much smaller than between 3 and 4.
 
Two years in a row (at least) that a favorite gets knocked out for being EC of the losing restaruant wars team. (Tre last year) They were right on that Spike was smart for staying out of it.
 
Despite Tre being a lot more likable of a fellow, his dismissal was a little easier to take. He got a mulligan and a list of things he did wrong... he really didn't act on the feedback and as a result he went home. At the end of the day, Tre had without question earned it.

Ted Allen has responded to the criticisms about the Dale decision and he seems pretty comfortable with it... indicating they really are surprised that people seem bothered by it. He hints at Dale's scallops being the worst thing they served, but seeing their reaction to the rice pudding (they shouldn't have served it) and the Laksa (smoked baby vomit) I have a hard time reconciling that with what I saw. I guess the entree is higher profile than the app or dessert.

I don't think they were influenced to send Dale home, and I believe they acted as they saw fit... the decision just seems to lack consistancy to me. People seem to love restaurant wars, but it is my least favorite recurring challange (behind the taste test, mise en place, packaged meals... etc) for precisely this reason, there are so many different ways to fail it is hard (as a viewer) to really understand why one is worse than another.
 
Here is another thing that bothers me. This thing is judged weekly and I get that you must perform week on week. that said Dale had a lot of skins on the wall in this thing whereas Lisa has been nothing but a middle of the road to bad chef pretty much every week. She deserved to go over Dale or Spike, and there is just no way around that. She has been ****** for weeks and points fingers ala Andrew, Dales, etc. She makes excuses "somebody effed with my burner on my rice", etc. She sucks.
 
Ok, I got curious and wanted to see if my impressions of the contestants at this point were on par. I went through the innernets and pulled up the information for each episode. I was looking specifically at wins, places (identified as good) and failures (identified as bad) for both quickfires and eliminations. Although Bravo's site counts team quickfire wins towards individual counts, I did not. I did however count Richard & Dale's team win in the improv elimination as a win for both.Once I had the numbers, I put half again more emphassis on an elimination results (win, good or bad) than on quickfire results, meaning a quickfire win is worth 2/3 an elimination win and a quickfire "bad" was 2/3 less penalty than an elimination "bad".Here are the results:Richard (19 pts) - Richard is rarely on the bottom, which helped his score quite a bit. Of the 6 people in last week's episode, he has (good or bad) gone before the elimination judges the least with only 7 appearances. It is worth noting that of those 7 appearances, 6 were good, and 3 he won.

Antonia (14 pts) - I thought she was going to be 4th in this list, so this surprised me. When she does poorly it tends to be in eliminations, which hurt her... as does the fact she only has one outright elimination win. Still she's done very well.

Stephanie (10 pts) - Stephanie has "placed" in eliminations more than anyone else (8 times), which is offset slightly by the fact that she is one of the worst quickfire contestants there is (second to Lisa, with 4 bad showings). Stephanie has the distinction of being the only contestant to end up in front of the judges EVERY WEEK in eliminations with 8 goods and 3 bads.

Dale (9.5 pts) - If not for being eliminated last week, he would have been in front of Stephanie. He was better in quickfires (75% top) than in eliminations (55% top). Seemed to be fairly all over the place, though it should be noted he was tied for the most elimination wins (3) with Richard and Stephanie.

Lisa (-5 pts) - That's right negative points... it surprised me too. Between quickfires and eliminations she has been identified as "bad" 11 times. She tends to be worse in quickfires (6 bads, 1 good) than eliminations (5 bads, 4 goods) though, which is why she isn't last. In the first 5 episodes, Lisa finished in the top group for eliminations 4 times (4 in a row in fact). In the last 5 episodes, Lisa has finished in the bottom group for eliminations ALL 5 TIMES.

Spike (-7.5 pts) - Spike is bad... but he is at his worst in eliminations. His only win is a quickfire. He has placed 5 times, but only 2 have occurred in eliminations. He has been in the bottom group in eliminations 7 times and in quickfires another 4.

In summary, I was right in thinking that Richard was on top, but I have been undervaluing Antonia's contribution. Stephanie's poor quickfire performance pushes he lower than I would have thought she'd be. That said, her elimination mistakes have by and large been terrible... so maybe the rating isn't that bad. Make no mistake, though, we lost one of the better chefs last week.
 
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