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OUBubba said:
Australia is another, you know, continent. They can require whatever they want. If you want to play in their tournament you need to comply.
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Sure, but don't sit there and defend the nonsense. Personally I don't have a problem with lying to them.
 
While it's nowhere as bad as Apartheid would you have been cool if our athletes of color been harassed in 80's South Africa if they had bent the rules a bit while there and then kicked out? Would you say, "dems the rules"? No, you wouldn't.
 
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Garmel said:
While it's nowhere as bad as Apartheid would you have been cool if our athletes of color been harassed in 80's South Africa if they had bent the rules a bit while there and then kicked out? Would you say, "dems the rules"? No, you wouldn't.
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Public health policy is now comparable to state codified racism. Nice. I'd say that social media has ruined our once great republic.
 
OUBubba said:
Public health policy is now comparable to state codified racism. Nice. I'd say that social media has ruined our once great republic.
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When Australia's public health policy on this matter does nothing that actually helps the public it's about as useless as state codified racism. If Australia had a leg to stand on here I would agree. Now that the shot has been thoroughly proven to be only a therapeutic the rules are stupid.
 
Garmel said:
When Australia's public health policy on this matter does nothing that actually helps the public it's about as useless as state codified racism. If Australia had a leg to stand on here I would agree. Now that the shot has been thoroughly proven to be only a therapeutic the rules are stupid.
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You think that's true. It is not.
 
OUBubba said:
You think that's true. It is not.
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The spread to the northeast proved that. Remember when you were spiking the ball about the south getting it so bad then the areas most vaccinated were hit hard as well. Europe wouldn't be getting hit as hard as well if they contained spread. Sorry, you're being fed malarkey. The vaccines do reduce severity. That's it.
 
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They say it reduces severity but have they published verifiable stats? There is no data driven way to prove that
It sounds good though and keeps the bucks rolling into Pfizer and Moderna
 
OUBubba said:
I'd say that social media has ruined our once great republic.
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I have to say that I'm thinking this way as well. We had Free Speech before social media and we can have Free Speech after social media, but the ability to broadcast your messages around the world and ALWAYS find 20 other people to go along with you no matter how off-the-rails you are has really hurt our civility which in turn hurts our democracy. Democracy doesn't always have to be civil and polite, but when it is routinely hostile, angry and devoid of most attempts to hear the other person out....democracy is diminished.

I don't know how we rein it in without picking sides but at some point we are going to have to lower the temperature and find a way to get back to reasonable conversations. Social Media hasn't been good for that, even when people are readily identifiable on Facebook.
 
Garmel said:
The spread to the northeast proved that. Remember when you were spiking the ball about the south getting it so bad then the areas most vaccinated were hit hard as well. Europe wouldn't be getting hit as hard as well if they contained spread. Sorry, you're being fed malarkey. The vaccines do reduce severity. That's it.
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What the what? That's the part that, you know, saves lives. Severe disease is where the road starts going bad. Mild covid does little damage. However, there are some long covid symptoms. I had it in October/November of 2020. My sniffer still isn't right. Lungs? Heart? I really don't know.

Setting the bar at 90% disease free is like Aggy saying "Championship or bust".
 
BrntOrngStmpeDe said:
I have to say that I'm thinking this way as well. We had Free Speech before social media and we can have Free Speech after social media, but the ability to broadcast your messages around the world and ALWAYS find 20 other people to go along with you no matter how off-the-rails you are has really hurt our civility which in turn hurts our democracy. Democracy doesn't always have to be civil and polite, but when it is routinely hostile, angry and devoid of most attempts to hear the other person out....democracy is diminished.

I don't know how we rein it in without picking sides but at some point we are going to have to lower the temperature and find a way to get back to reasonable conversations. Social Media hasn't been good for that, even when people are readily identifiable on Facebook.
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The hornfans (college sports board) world is a great example. One of the reasons I prefer discussing sports (and motherscratching politics) here is that I'm not in the yeah team setting. Many people say ****** things about OU. I know much of that is biased. However, I know that a good portion is correct and it's not what I'm going to read on a Sooner message board. I have to run unpleasant things through my mind and not respond like a total jackwagon (@Garmel :) ). I've gained some perspective by interacting with you lovely men/women.
 
OUBubba said:
Australia is another, you know, continent. They can require whatever they want. If you want to play in their tournament you need to comply.
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Absolutely! They can require no Jews or Blacks to ever play tennis in their country. Or require a steep fine to receive the "freedom" to do so. Sounds like a good plan for a Leftist.

Or we could judge laws and policies through natural law and natural rights philosophy.
 
OUBubba said:
What the what? That's the part that, you know, saves lives. Severe disease is where the road starts going bad. Mild covid does little damage. However, there are some long covid symptoms. I had it in October/November of 2020. My sniffer still isn't right. Lungs? Heart? I really don't know.

Setting the bar at 90% disease free is like Aggy saying "Championship or bust".
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WTF? We were just arguing about spread. Do you finally agree with me that it's basically a therapeutic at this point and that the tennis player didn't endanger anybody?
 
Garmel said:
WTF? We were just arguing about spread. Do you finally agree with me that it's basically a therapeutic at this point and that the tennis player didn't endanger anybody?
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The flu vaccine helps keep you from getting the flu but is not foolproof. It also generally helps you not get it so bad. Right? That's my take on this one. It was VERY effective against the initial virus. Less so as immunity waned and the virus mutated. That said, it is still effective (9x) or so against death and ICU membership. And I'm the crazy one.
 
OUBubba said:
The flu vaccine helps keep you from getting the flu but is not foolproof. It also generally helps you not get it so bad. Right? That's my take on this one. It was VERY effective against the initial virus. Less so as immunity waned and the virus mutated. That said, it is still effective (9x) or so against death and ICU membership. And I'm the crazy one.
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Is the tennis player a danger to anyone? Yes or no, Bubba.
 
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Garmel said:
Is the tennis player a danger to anyone? Yes or no, Bubba.
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It’s the Australian’s call. Self governance and all. If you want to win their tennis money you should follow their rules. There was a mechanism for him to no be vaccinated but he didn’t follow the quarantine rules.

my brother in law works for a defense contractor in DFW and had to quarantine alone in his hotel room for 7 days before working in some foreign country this year. It was their rules.
 
Garmel said:
Then don't stick up for **** that is wrong. "That's their rules" is giving credence to ******* idiocy.
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I reject the premise that respecting a nation's sovereignty is sticking up for what it's doing on a specific issue, but that's fine.

Garmel said:
If it was protected by the 14th 1) Segregation would/could have been overturned by the courts
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It could have been and was. That's what Brown was about, but it was applying the 14th Amendment, which had been the law since Reconstruction.

Garmel said:
2) The Courts unfortunately ruled previously that "separate but equal" was constitutional. You're dead wrong.
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No ****. The Court was wrong in Plessy. They stated the law incorrectly. The law was on the side of the civil rights movement.

Garmel said:
We needed the Civil Rights Act of 1964 to end it
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We didn't need it to end segregation be public institutions. That was done by the 14th Amendment. The Court simply didn't recognize it until Brown. (Also, the Civil Rights Act as it's usually applied is unconstitutional. It's politically incorrect to say that, but it's true under any serious reading of the Constitution.)
 
Garmel said:
Is the tennis player a danger to anyone? Yes or no, Bubba.
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Garmel, someone pee in your cheerios today? If the citizens of Australia want to live in penal colony, they have that right. Apparently things haven’t changed much in 150 years. The tennis player should have taken a dump on the tarmac and left. Come on man!
 
mchammer said:
Garmel, someone pee in your cheerios today? If the citizens of Australia want to live in penal colony, they have that right. Apparently things haven’t changed much in 150 years. The tennis player should have taken a dump on the tarmac and left. Come on man!
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Maybe I triggered him one too many times.
 
mchammer said:
Garmel, someone pee in your cheerios today? If the citizens of Australia want to live in penal colony, they have that right. Apparently things haven’t changed much in 150 years. The tennis player should have taken a dump on the tarmac and left. Come on man!
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No, because he won't answer my question.
 
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