The First 100 days

[Seattle Husker]

If the Fed doesn't raise rates now when the economy is fundamentally sound, they will not have this ammunition when they need it should the economy falter again. It's been historically low for a historically extended time. The only question is my mind is did they wait too long to raise the rates? It seems they are leveraging laggard metrics too much but they have infinitely more data at their disposal than us.

 

[Joe Fan]

Nielsen takes a crack at catch & release

Effective immediately, the United States will begin the process of invoking Section 235(b)(2)(C) of the Immigration and Nationality Act. Under the Migration Protection Protocols (MPP), individuals arriving in or entering the United States from Mexico—illegally or without proper documentation—may be returned to Mexico for the duration of their immigration proceedings.​

Secretary Nielsen Announces Historic Action to Confront Illegal Immigration

 

[Joe Fan]

Ann is on the warpath today

She has been blistering him for a few days now
So much so that he actually unfollowed her
Worth a peek if you have a couple minutes

 

[Joe Fan]

 

[Monahorns]

Hey. Seattle Husker. I agree with you. Just wanted to acknowledge that. I don't know that "stimulus" is ever really helpful, but even if you believe it is then you have to go up at some point. If not now? When?

 

[Mr. Deez]

If the Fed doesn't raise rates now when the economy is fundamentally sound, they will not have this ammunition when they need it should the economy falter again. It's been historically low for a historically extended time. The only question is my mind is did they wait too long to raise the rates? It seems they are leveraging laggard metrics too much but they have infinitely more data at their disposal than us.

I think people are making too big of a deal of the rate hike. As you mentioned, if the economy is strong, then this is a good time to hike rates if they've been low, which they have been. In fact, they've been ridiculously low. I understand the desire not to raise them, and obviously it's possible to go too far, but with how low rates have been, a modest increase (which this was) seems like a reasonable and sensible thing to do. We're still way below the pre-Great Recession rates.

 

[Joe Fan]

There is another GoFundMe battle going on

 

[Joe Fan]

 

[Joe Fan]

Saudis/UAE had already sent replacement troops to defend the Kurds in Syria. The Arab military is much better than they used to be.

In addition, this might set up an interesting situation with Turkey's moves in the region as it was Turkey who acted as the antagonist in the Kashoggi matter and Erdogan himself who orchestrated the blame toward MBS

Saudi Arabia, UAE send troops to support Kurds in Syria

 

[Joe Fan]

The scene on the Beltway upon the "Govt Shutdown"

 

[Monahorns]

See, I figured the Kurds would be okay without the US. They have survived as a minority in that area of the world for a long time without us.

 

[ProdigalHorn]

There is another GoFundMe battle going on

IN all fairness, the ladder crowd may be tapped out after having funded Christine Blasey Ford, Michael Avenatti, Stormy Daniels, etc...

 

[Seattle Husker]

There is another GoFundMe battle going on

In all fairness, the $30B wall will be able to be circumvented by a $500 ladder. For a reusable option simply tunnel under the wall for $50k.

I much prefer the crowdsourced option. Raise the money and build the wall if ot helps alleviate your fears.

 

[Garmel]

In all fairness, the $30B wall will be able to be circumvented by a $500 ladder. For a reusable option simply tunnel under the wall for $50k.

I much prefer the crowdsourced option. Raise the money and build the wall if ot helps alleviate your fears.

Ah, the old MSM canard. Areas in the U.S. that have put up a wall have decreased illegal immigration in that area by 90-95%. You know why? Because ladders are fairly heavy and feel even heavier after carrying them several miles. Not many people carry them. Even if carrying a ladder the time it takes to get over the wall a drone or border officer has a good chance of detecting them. The wall that we plan on building goes around 6 feet deep. You can circumvent it but it will take time and a lot of noise to do it. No, it will not be foolproof but it will help considerably. The Border Patrol wants a wall. 89% agents surveyed said yes to the wall according to a survey done by the National Border Patrol Council. You would think they know what they are talking about. Poll: Border Patrol Agents Want Wall

 

[Garmel]

In all fairness, the $30B wall will be able to be circumvented by a $500 ladder. For a reusable option simply tunnel under the wall for $50k.

I much prefer the crowdsourced option. Raise the money and build the wall if ot helps alleviate your fears.

Another thing. The cost of illegal immigration according to several studies that I've read is around $100 billion a year. Compared to that $30 billion for a wall is chump change. Poor people of all nationalities cost money because they don't put in as much money as they use and that's a fact.

 

[Seattle Husker]

You know why?

Yes, because there is 2,000+ miles of border to cross. The wall only pushes the traffic to other areas. Build a wall along the entire border and they will go over/under the wall.

That $30b doesnt in include ongoing maintenance. We just reinvested $430M to repair a few hundred miles of existing wall.

Ultimately, a wall will only put a minor dent in illegal migration and wont have ane effect on drugs.

Simply put, the wall would be the world's largest pacifier, intended for the xenophobes of the US.

We've gone round and round with more effective means of fighting illegal immigration for the wall somehow became a symbol of the extreme right. A symbol of irrationality, inflexibility and ultimately wastefulness. All of those are reasons even moderate Republicans don't support a 2k mile monument to 14th century defenses.

 

[mchammer]

Yes, because there is 2,000+ miles of border to cross. The wall only pushes the traffic to other areas. Build a wall along the entire border and they will go over/under the wall.

That $30b doesnt in include ongoing maintenance. We just reinvested $430M to repair a few hundred miles of existing wall.

Ultimately, a wall will only put a minor dent in illegal migration and wont have ane effect on drugs.

Simply put, the wall would be the world's largest pacifier, intended for the xenophobes of the US.

We've gone round and round with more effective means of fighting illegal immigration for the wall somehow became a symbol of the extreme right. A symbol of irrationality, inflexibility and ultimately wastefulness. All of those are reasons even moderate Republicans don't support a 2k mile monument to 14th century defenses.

Walls work. Your response is similar to your hero Obama who said you can’t drill your way to lower oil prices. How did that work out?

 

[Seattle Husker]

Walls work. Your response is similar to your hero Obama who said you can’t drill your way to lower oil prices. How did that work out?

If you say so.

 

[Garmel]

Simply put, the wall would be the world's largest pacifier, intended for the xenophobes of the US.

I guess the border patrol, who are heavily Latino(51%) and want a wall, are a bunch of xenophobes. Thank you for displaying your ignorance.

If you say so.

That's the second time you have used that term today. Is that your new saying when somebody tells you a fact that you can't refute?

 

[Garmel]

Walls work.

I guess he never looked at Israel, Cyprus, or Morocco's successes.

 

[LongestHorn]

Mexico is paying for it. He told us so.

Border agents want a wall because they’re cops and would welcome the 100 year white elephant funding. Texans are not happy about losing their property to build what can defeated with a grappling hook and a rope.

But Mexico is paying for it. Campaign promise. Or bust.

If you follow the joint strike fighter fiasco, you know we spent $400 billion to build 2450 aircraft. And now they need to be repaired after we learned tail parts weren’t primed at the factory. $15 billion and neither the DoD or factory is willing to pay for this one repair. White elephant we already have. One of many, sadly.

 

[Garmel]

Border agents want a wall because they’re cops and would welcome the 100 year white elephant funding.

Or maybe they've looked at other countries where it has worked and thought it would work here.

 

[bystander]

Every strip of land on the Texas border is owned by someone. Trespassing is another law that is being violated. Enter across the bridge and you are legal in your attempts to gain access to the US.

I have friends who have ranches in Laredo who have multiple incidents to report of illegals crossing their land, cutting their fences, trashing the place out and making them feel unsafe. It's a real problem.

 

[Monahorns]

The US is helping Mexico pay for a wall on THEIR Southern border. It's actually a good thing. Most illegals these days aren't coming from Mexico.

People also need to keep in mind. There isn't going to be a wall from the Pacific to the Gulf. The issue is adding obstacles along areas where there is high flow. Some people get through of course but it dissuades many others.

For all you idiots who say "hey 100 people got through YOUR wall", you forget about the 10,000 who stayed home.

Also, if you have never lived along the border don't comment on the Border Patrol. They are majority Hispanic and they want to enforce US law for the idea of it and they think a wall will help. They don't want a wall so they can scam more money out of citizens. They see the problems 1st hand, they don't get to hire more people to help, and they know they are behind the game. Give these hard working Hispanics the wall they want and deserve.

 

[Seattle Husker]

Is that your new saying when somebody tells you a fact that you can't refute?

Please point to the FACT. I'm reading opinion. You want me to refute your opinion? Tried that a zillion times here and it doesn't work. Nobody is going to change their opinion.

 

[Seattle Husker]

Or maybe they've looked at other countries where it has worked and thought it would work here.

Show me a 2,500 mile successful wall. Where? You have to go back to the Qing dynasty for an example.

Hey, the White House has a wall so that must mean a wall between us and Mexico will be successful. This is why you point to a wall in Tuscon or some other limited location and scream "SUCCESS" while the overall illegal immigration problem doesn't change. If y'all want a $60B game of Whack-a-mole. Crowdfund it.

 

[Seattle Husker]

The US is helping Mexico pay for a wall on THEIR Southern border. It's actually a good thing. Most illegals these days aren't coming from Mexico.

If my neighbor offers to pay for a fence on the other side of my property from the one he's connected to do I say no? The fencing they have now with the border with Guatemala is easily defeated. Guatemala passed Mexico this past month in illegals caught. That Guatemala girl that died? She was a group of 200 that appeared at a NM crossing.

Some people get through of course but it dissuades many others.

How many are dissuaded? I'd argue illegal immigration is an economic problem. If our economy is good and the situation in Latin America is bad, you'll see an influx in immigration attempts, regardless of whatever barriers are put up. It certainly won't deter any criminal element.

Also, if you have never lived along the border don't comment on the Border Patrol. They are majority Hispanic and they want to enforce US law for the idea of it and they think a wall will help. They don't want a wall so they can scam more money out of citizens. They see the problems 1st hand, they don't get to hire more people to help, and they know they are behind the game. Give these hard working Hispanics the wall they want and deserve.

I have tremendous respect for border patrol. I'm sure a wall would make their job easier. If I approached my boss with an idea that would reduce the burden on my team they'd say "GREAT! So when and who are we letting go to pay for it?" Teachers need more funding too but conservatives balk at that. $60B in education would arguably have a potentially bigger impact on our collective society than a wall. Personally, I don't think we can afford $60B+ ongoing maintenance for a limited impact solution.

 

[Seattle Husker]

I guess the border patrol, who are heavily Latino(51%) and want a wall, are a bunch of xenophobes. Thank you for displaying your ignorance.

Yeah...I was TOTALLY referencing border patrol agents. They must have been a very vocal bunch shouting "build the wall" at every Trump rally.

Who doesn't want more resources at their place of work? If your boss walks your desk tomorrow and says "would your like us to replace all the computers in the department" are you gonna say no?

 

[Mr. Deez]

Because ladders are fairly heavy and feel even heavier after carrying them several miles. Not many people carry them.

I'm sure illegal aliens aren't the sharpest tools in the shed, but my guess is that they'd buy the ladder near the border rather than lug one several hundred miles. I'm sure there's a Home Depot (or a "Deposito de Casa") near the border.

 

[Garmel]

Yeah...I was TOTALLY referencing border patrol agents. They must have been a very vocal bunch shouting "build the wall" at every Trump rally.

Who doesn't want more resources at their place of work? If your boss walks your desk tomorrow and says "would your like us to replace all the computers in the department" are you gonna say no?

When you make a comment like "xenophobe" when the Latinos who work on the border want one makes you look stupid, doesn't it? Yeah, you and the MSM know more than the people who work down there, When the people who are closest to the problem say that they have a good solution you should listen to them.