Texas QB Shane Buechele to undergo surgery

If doctors are involved this is malpractice and they need to change the doctors they trust. If its coaches they should know better. Protocol was invented trying to prevent coaches from putting kids back in when concussed. I had a minor concussion in 2005 and I still get a headache where I hit my head and here we are in 2018. This kind of stuff ended Ash's career and others. There are NFL veterans with Parkinson's in their 40s and 50s because they played on concussed brains. Football is temporary but they need their brain for the rest of their lives. I hope Herman has taken time for reflection and has learned his lesson. I also hope Shane rubs off on Sam and he learns to slide, get down, or run out of bounds at the end of his run instead of going head first into the defense. It doesn't make him less tough, just makes him smart and makes him protect his brain for better quality of life for when football is done.
 
dukesteer said:
Back to the Ehlinger concussion discussion, the university should be very concerned that “anyone” could have allowed the kid to re enter the game. And that wasn’t the only game in which it happened. If I recall correctly, it happened one or two plays before he threw the pick in OT in the OSU game.

Either someone broke protocol or they don’t know what they are doing. If every viewer can see that the player was dazed and stayed down after the OU hit, what the “H” are the coaches — on the sideline or in the press box — thinking? Here’s the answer: They aren’t. And if Ehlinger was able to count back from 100 by 7s, then that test needs to be scraped.

On those two occasions the coaching staff and the school let the player down.
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:rolleyes1: Yeah, I guess you know better that the coaches and trainers who actually examined Ehlinger. I'm sure they just blow off concussion protocols. It's not like it's a big deal or anything. :rolleyes1:

Probably Ellinger had an un-noticed concussion in the 4th Q of the Tech game as well. Maybe all of Ellinger's fumbles and interceptions were due to concussion. I'm going to call him David Ashtoo from now on.
 
4th_floor said:
:rolleyes1: Yeah, I guess you know better that the coaches and trainers who actually examined Ehlinger. I'm sure they just blow off concussion protocols. It's not like it's a big deal or anything. :rolleyes1:

Probably Ellinger had an un-noticed concussion in the 4th Q of the Tech game as well. Maybe all of Ellinger's fumbles and interceptions were due to concussion. I'm going to call him David Ashtoo from now on.
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No concussion against Tech. Poor arm strength/accuracy and bad decision making. Ellinger struggled with that all season. As to your other points, we are just going to have to agree to disagree.
 
Too bad I am 5'0 and have really bad knees. My heart is willing but I would not be very good. I make a mean Libero in volleyball though.
 
We all saw a kid playing in that game that looked like he was playing with a concussion. He through the ball out of bounds on fourth down!
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It was like 4th and 15, he was another 10-15 yards behind the line, there were multiple defenders about to clobber him, we'd already had a flag thrown on us (not sure if he knew that part or not), and nobody was open. Oh and he's a freshman. I don't for sure that this is the actual explanation, but it is certainly sufficient to be more than believable.
 
In all fairness, Sam did plenty of stuff that defied all logic and football IQ. You can't just pick and choose which ones are a result of a concussion. As Stat said, when it's fourth and 15, and the guy has nowhere to throw and nowhere to run, his instinct says "don't take the sack and don't throw a pick." So he throws it away. I believe someone posted a list of his issues, which included "makes poor decisions." Well...
 
ProdigalHorn said:
In all fairness, Sam did plenty of stuff that defied all logic and football IQ. You can't just pick and choose which ones are a result of a concussion. As Stat said, when it's fourth and 15, and the guy has nowhere to throw and nowhere to run, his instinct says "don't take the sack and don't throw a pick." So he throws it away. I believe someone posted a list of his issues, which included "makes poor decisions." Well...
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I think the reference was to the time the "throwaway" became an interception and killed a TD drive.
 
The 4th down throwaway in the OU, while the wrong decision, probably didn't hurt us in the end, because our odds of succeeding there were less than 1% anyway. To get different outcome, Sam while under pressure would have had to throw a pass up for grabs on 4th and 15 and complete it (otherwise OU declines the penalty), then we'd have had to go for it again on 4th and 25. This is the decision he made against OU that was commonly used as evidence of a concussion. He didn't throw any interceptions in that game.

He made a monumentally stupid throw against WVU (tossing the ball almost straight up into the air while nearly on his back already) that was a pick 6, but he hadn't taken any "omg he might have a concussion" hits before then.
 
I am not sure how many of Sam's poor decisions were concussion related and how many were just poor decisions. I guess we will see if he gets playing time this year and still makes poor decisions. I don't think we could still make the case that he is still under the influence of the concussion and we definitely can't make excuses that he is still a freshman.
 
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