Texas QB Shane Buechele to undergo surgery

With the beatings that both QB's took during the season, it's amazing they can even walk. I'm sure they're hoping, as we all are, that the OL performs a lot better next year.
 
I believe this is three times Shane was injured In a game but continued to play. I recognize the desire to compete but is this in the best interest of Shane and the team? Does this continue to put him in the injury prone department?
 
Olehornfan said:
I believe this is three times Shane was injured In a game but continued to play. I recognize the desire to compete but is this in the best interest of Shane and the team? Does this continue to put him in the injury prone department?
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Playing through an injury is glorified, but it is rarely good for the team. A selfless player sits until he is healthy enough to perform at or near 100%. A good coach forces the injured player to sit even if he doesn’t want to.
 
NJlonghorn said:
Playing through an injury is glorified, but it is rarely good for the team. A selfless player sits until he is healthy enough to perform at or near 100%. A good coach forces the injured player to sit even if he doesn’t want to.
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i'm gonna disagree on your description.

i think a MATURE player sits. because he understands the difference between being hurt and being injured.

kids spend their entire sporting career playing through pain. little children always stop when they get hurt. players are OFTEN selfless when playing through pain. but a mature player understands the difference between pain and injury and is wise about his decisions.
 
Part of the problem is Herman. He put Ellinger back into the OU game after he had been in Concussion Protocol. He expects these kids to play hurt because he thinks it makes them seem tough to their teammates.
 
Coach Herman isn't the only coach who struggles with this issue either. My dad is old school where guys played on after getting their bell rung. We know better now with modern science but guys like my dad feel like they have sissified the game too much. He says things like "you might as well put a dress on the quarterback" and hates the targeting rule. I think kids wanting to hide injuries from coaches is human nature because they want to play and are afraid of what will happen when coach finds out. Also the stereotype played in the movie The Program of the difference between being injured and being hurt is a stereotype for a reason. I am sorry for getting cross. I a sick with strep and I get grumpy when I don't feel well. Unlike most athletes, I don't play well when I am injured, LOL
 
I think the doctors cleared him but they shouldn't have. We all saw a kid playing in that game that looked like he was playing with a concussion. He through the ball out of bounds on fourth down! He ended up right back in concussion protocol and out for several weeks. I think Herman learned his lesson and wants that decision back.
 
Horngal12 said:
Coach Herman isn't the only coach who struggles with this issue either. My dad is old school where guys played on after getting their bell rung. We know better now with modern science but guys like my dad feel like they have sissified the game too much. He says things like "you might as well put a dress on the quarterback" and hates the targeting rule. I think kids wanting to hide injuries from coaches is human nature because they want to play and are afraid of what will happen when coach finds out. Also the stereotype played in the movie The Program of the difference between being injured and being hurt is a stereotype for a reason. I am sorry for getting cross. I a sick with strep and I get grumpy when I don't feel well. Unlike most athletes, I don't play well when I am injured, LOL
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I would like to throw in my two cents here, kids today are just bigger and stronger these days the coaches are making them work out all year long lifting weights and stuff and so they when they hit somebody it's a greater impact. The kids today are certainly more susceptible to injury because of that. And maybe the way kids eat today they are not us healthy as they used to be so that may contribute to susceptibility.
 
Pomspoms said:
And maybe the way kids eat today they are not us healthy as they used to be so that may contribute to susceptibility.
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Good grief. Do you have any clue at all how much UT athletics invests in dieticians and other support staff to insure our athletes are eating an exceptionally healthy diet?
 
Sangre Naranjada said:
Good grief. Do you have any clue at all how much UT athletics invests in dieticians and other support staff to insure our athletes are eating an exceptionally healthy diet?
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I understand your point. I was referring to their childhood and teen years. It just seems to me foods that we eat today, like fast food esp., Isn't as nourishing to our bodies and maybe that makes us more susceptible to injury. Just speculating.
 
As speculation goes, I think that's not totally unreasonable to apply to the general population, but I cannot see it applying to the subset of kids who become collegiate level athletes.
 
I see both sides. We know more about nutrition and the schools are trying to make kids eat more nutritious meals. Some parents still feed their kids happy meals and other fast foods and obesity is still a problem. I was diagnosed with Osteoarthritis at 18 after spraining both knees in volleyball injuries. I had spine surgery in my 30s. Some bodies are just prone to injury. By the way I eat mostly fresh veggies and lean proteins and because of blood pressure watch my salts. Others eat fast food all the time and are apparently healthy like President Trump. I am sure the coaches hire experts working on the players nutrition and I am sure the strength and conditioning coaches are working on off-season training goals to help these guys better avoid injuries.
 
If this country hadn't been eating burgers and fries since the 50s, you might have a point. I'm not convinced our diets all of a sudden turned to crap in the millennial generation. We just notice it and complain about it more now.
 
Don't get me wrong I enjoy the occasional burger and fries and I think that as long as its in moderation that its good for us once in a while. A doctor tried to get my 80 something year old grandma to give up cheese. She tried so hard and just couldn't. A different doctor in the same practice took her next appointment. He asked her how old she was and she told him. He said that it hasn't killed her yet, eat as much cheese as she wants. Some times old school has it going on and other times I appreciate our more modern advances.
 
Back to the Ehlinger concussion discussion, the university should be very concerned that “anyone” could have allowed the kid to re enter the game. And that wasn’t the only game in which it happened. If I recall correctly, it happened one or two plays before he threw the pick in OT in the OSU game.

Either someone broke protocol or they don’t know what they are doing. If every viewer can see that the player was dazed and stayed down after the OU hit, what the “H” are the coaches — on the sideline or in the press box — thinking? Here’s the answer: They aren’t. And if Ehlinger was able to count back from 100 by 7s, then that test needs to be scraped.

On those two occasions the coaching staff and the school let the player down.
 
dukesteer said:
Back to the Ehlinger concussion discussion, the university should be very concerned that “anyone” could have allowed the kid to re enter the game. And that wasn’t the only game in which it happened. If I recall correctly, it happened one or two plays before he threw the pick in OT in the OSU game.

Either someone broke protocol or they don’t know what they are doing. If every viewer can see that the player was dazed and stayed down after the OU hit, what the “H” are the coaches — on the sideline or in the press box — thinking? Here’s the answer: They aren’t. And if Ehlinger was able to count back from 100 by 7s, then that test needs to be scraped.

On those two occasions the coaching staff and the school let the player down.
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I agree 100%.
 
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