South Carolina @ Texas 02/09/2025

I was thinking about how they emphasized Staley's 51-game conference streak being broken by Texas.

Hmmmm, seems to me I remember Texas having a 10-year 183 SWC conference streak from Jan 1978 - Feb 1990.

183-game Southwest Conference Winning Streak Snapped

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I remember going to games and thinking, "these teams already know they lost before they pull up to the Erwin Center"
 
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racerx5908 said:
I was thinking about how they emphasized Staley's 51-game conference streak being broken by Texas.

Hmmmm, seems to me I remember Texas having a 10-year 183 SWC conference streak from Jan 1978 - Feb 1990.

183-game Southwest Conference Winning Streak Snapped

H.J. Lutcher Stark Center for Physical Culture and Sports
starkcenter.org starkcenter.org

I remember going to games and thinking, "these teams already know they lost before they pull up to the Erwin Center"
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WOW
 
It was nice to see Justice get some early (meaningful) playing time, but well... She looked really tentative on defense, like she wasn't sure where she was supposed to be. I'm wondering how much defensive responsibilities she had in high school. Is she truly a good fit for Vic's scheme? There must be some reason why he pursued her. Some players take a year or two to adjust.
 
I thought I remembered talk of how good justice was defensively back on the recruiting threads. Vic’s system takes some learning. I think she’ll be ok. It seems like she’s always getting into the passing lanes for deflections during her playing time this season TO ME.

I’m not worried about Justice like some are (which doesn’t make me right). But I missed the part where Vic said it was energy & effort. I’ve also not interpreted facial expressions the same as some. I’m seeing a lot of game face. Remember when people suggested maybe Oldacre wasn’t happy here because of her game face? I was glad when Rebecca Lobo made the observation(s) that Kyla has one of the best game face games in the business. I’ve never been a fan of telling a woman to smile btw.

Anyway I guess I’m saying this narrative some people are trying to create about Carlson is a bit cringe. Little early to do that with a freshman none of us know well. I do know people would be a little more chill if AMo was healthy.
 
HornView said:
Anyway I guess I’m saying this narrative some people are trying to create about Carlson is a bit cringe. Little early to do that with a freshman none of us know well. I do know people would be a little more chill if AMo was healthy.
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I disagree that anything going on here is "cringe". Most of us have been stating the obvious. The last five games, Justice has been mostly absent. Only Vic and Justice know the real reason for that. In any event, it's more than apparent that she's not earned the playing time as Lee and Stewart. Hopefully, she will improve her game and be around for a long time.
 
Bucksgal said:
I disagree that anything going on here is "cringe". Most of us have been stating the obvious. The last five games, Justice has been mostly absent. Only Vic and Justice know the real reason for that. In any event, it's more than apparent that she's not earned the playing time as Lee and Stewart. Hopefully, she will improve her game and be around for a long time.
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Stewart?
 
HornView said:
I thought I remembered talk of how good justice was defensively back on the recruiting threads. Vic’s system takes some learning. I think she’ll be ok. It seems like she’s always getting into the passing lanes for deflections during her playing time this season TO ME.

I’m not worried about Justice like some are (which doesn’t make me right). But I missed the part where Vic said it was energy & effort. I’ve also not interpreted facial expressions the same as some. I’m seeing a lot of game face. Remember when people suggested maybe Oldacre wasn’t happy here because of her game face? I was glad when Rebecca Lobo made the observation(s) that Kyla has one of the best game face games in the business. I’ve never been a fan of telling a woman to smile btw.

Anyway I guess I’m saying this narrative some people are trying to create about Carlson is a bit cringe. Little early to do that with a freshman none of us know well. I do know people would be a little more chill if AMo was healthy.
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I'm not trying to "create a narrative", but merely making an observation. I also mentioned that it can take a year or two to adapt to Vic's system. You were quick to throw an adjective out there. Any other thoughts?
 
Bucksgal said:
I disagree that anything going on here is "cringe". Most of us have been stating the obvious. The last five games, Justice has been mostly absent. Only Vic and Justice know the real reason for that. In any event, it's more than apparent that she's not earned the playing time as Lee and Stewart. Hopefully, she will improve her game and be around for a long time.
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Hopefully she and her family stay away from this pessimist board....geez
 
CreakyHorn said:
I'm not trying to "create a narrative", but merely making an observation. I also mentioned that it can take a year or two to adapt to Vic's system. You were quick to throw an adjective out there. Any other thoughts?
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I’m sorry I was absolutely not accusing you of creating a narrative whatsoever that’s why I didn’t quote your post. I didn’t think your post was doing that at all and if you’ll re-read my post with that in mind I think you’ll see I wasn’t referring to you. I basically was agreeing with you about it taking awhile to adjust to Vic’s defense. Sorry for this misunderstanding.
 
I think the pessimism that was being called out related to earlier comments that expressly compared (IMO unfairly) Carlton’s situation to a prior player who 1) left the team and 2) has not had success elsewhere.

I don’t know Carlton’s current situation, but I’m certainly not going to support that kind of comparison by the mere fact that a freshman has had limited time during a gauntlet of games against top 25 and top 10 competition. Her situation certainly is much closer to Jak, who has stayed with the team and developed into a starter playing well against top competition. I think that is the most likely result for Carlton going forward.
 
Yep. That was me.

I stand by my post, but I also stress that I am 100% rooting for Carlton to have a great career on the 40 acres.

Hunter scored 27 points in an early non conference game and then saw very limited minutes the rest of the season, often looking a bit out of sorts when she did see the court.

Carlton had a 30 point game early in non conference play and has then seen limited minutes the rest of the season. When she has seen the court we have all noticed that she seems to be struggling.

I stand by the rest of my post as well - I hope the similarities end there. I wish Justice all the best. I mean that sincerely.

Sorry if that sentiment offends some.
 
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WCBBNUT said:
Yep. That was me.

I stand by my post, but I also stress that I am 100% rooting for Carlton to have a great career on the 40 acres.

Hunter scored 27 points in an early non conference game and then saw very limited minutes the rest of the season, often looking a bit out of sorts when she did see the court.

Carlton had a 30 point game early in non conference play and has then seen limited minutes the rest of the season. When she has seen the court we have all noticed that she seems to be struggling.

I stand by the rest of my post as well - I hope the similarities end there. I wish Justice all the best. I mean that sincerely.

Sorry if that sentiment offends some.
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Well said... I agree... and I am also rooting for Justice Carlton big time!
 
WCBBNUT said:
I stand by my post, but I also stress that I am 100% rooting for Carlton to have a great career on the 40 acres.
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As I'm sure we all are.

Vic after the aggie game 2/2:
"Jordan Lee knows how hard she’s got to play, and she does every night, you know getting Justice and Bri in that same mode is where we’re at right now. When we can do that and it’ll really help us. You know Justice, I need Justice, I got to coach better, teach better, bottom line it’s on me. I got to coach better and teach better so we can get her in and get her some minutes, cause we need her desperately."

Jak always seems to play her *** off. Her issues seem to be coordination and decision making, both of which seem to be getting better each game lately.

During the noncon schedule I had Justice penciled in as a starter. Her offensive skill set was really encouraging. We hit the conference schedule and things fell apart. Next year we need forwards. Really hope Justice and Vic get things sorted.
 
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