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Phil Elliott said:
Get woke, go broke. The dominance of Dick's by Academy will continue unabated.
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Concur, especially since much of their pronouncement is much ado about nothing. For all intents and purposes, it impacts THREE stores. I seriously doubt they had that many under-21 purchasers. And they were not exactly a store that was high on my list of places to go when I needed to get any manner of supplies...
 
bystander said:
Have y'all seen this:

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I'm fairly certain there are some other items in Dick's inventory which have cause the loss of "at least one life." I wonder if those will also be banned.
 
They aren't banning firearms. They just don't want immature buyers and they don't want to sell weapons with military style capabilities Seems a reasonable middle ground... if there is any on gun policy.
 
Why didn't they simply start enforcing their new policy?

Because ... it's become vogue to use company resources to advance personal agendas --- particularly when they are liberal/leftist/democrat policies.
 
Crockett said:
They aren't banning firearms. They just don't want immature buyers and they don't want to sell weapons with military style capabilities Seems a reasonable middle ground... if there is any on gun policy.
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Same can be said to raise voting age to 21, though I prefer 26.
 
mchammer said:
Same can be said to raise voting age to 21, though I prefer 26.
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yes ... and either have a DDd214 or own land.

Of course, we can't even get a requirement to validate a person is who he claims to be ... so I hope you'll understand, I'm not holding my breath.
 
Phil Elliott said:
Get woke, go broke. The dominance of Dick's by Academy will continue unabated.
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I checked out where Dick's and Academy are located. Academy is heavily centered in the South, and even the non-southern states where they're located are pretty red. Dick's has a more national presence. While their move will hurt them in places like Texas or Mobilehoma, I think their goal is to appeal to nature lovers in places like California, Colorado, Washington, Oregon, and the East Coast.

I do have a hard time believing they're better off in the long term by virtue signaling than keeping quiet, but I guess their marketing people thought otherwise. My guess is that the fact that they sold a gun to Cruz put some special attention on them. I'm sure some bed-wetting ****-flingers who are getting a lot of unearned and unjustified attention to push a political agenda (See David Hogg.) likely complained to Dick's and perhaps threatened (expressly or impliedly) to lead a boycott. Knowing that CNN and other liberal networks will give said bed-wetting ****-flingers a platform to demonize people and businesses who don't reflexively endorse their hysteria, the company capitulated.
 
And Crockett still insists the NRA is to blame:

Despite committing a string of arrestable offenses on campus before the Florida school shooting, Nikolas Cruz was able to escape the attention of law enforcement, pass a background check and purchase the weapon he used to slaughter 14 fellow students and three adults because of Obama administration efforts to make school discipline more lenient.

Documents reviewed by RealClearInvestigations and interviews show that his school district in Florida’s Broward County was in the vanguard of a strategy, adopted by more than 50 other major school districts nationwide, allowing thousands of troubled, often violent, students to commit crimes without legal consequence. The aim was slowing the “school-to-prison pipeline.”

“He had a clean record, so alarm bells didn’t go off when they looked him up in the system,” veteran FBI agent Michael Biasello told RCI. “He probably wouldn’t have been able to buy the murder weapon if the school had referred him to law enforcement.”

Disclosures about the strategy add a central new element to the Parkland shooting story: It’s not just one of official failings at many levels and of America’s deep divide over guns, but also one of deliberate federal policy gone awry.
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https://www.realclearinvestigations...cipline_policy_and_the_parkland_shooting.html
 
Mr. Deez said:
I checked out where Dick's and Academy are located. Academy is heavily centered in the South, and even the non-southern states where they're located are pretty red. Dick's has a more national presence. While their move will hurt them in places like Texas or Mobilehoma, I think their goal is to appeal to nature lovers in places like California, Colorado, Washington, Oregon, and the East Coast.

I do have a hard time believing they're better off in the long term by virtue signaling than keeping quiet, but I guess their marketing people thought otherwise. My guess is that the fact that they sold a gun to Cruz put some special attention on them. I'm sure some bed-wetting ****-flingers who are getting a lot of unearned and unjustified attention to push a political agenda (See David Hogg.) likely complained to Dick's and perhaps threatened (expressly or impliedly) to lead a boycott. Knowing that CNN and other liberal networks will give said bed-wetting ****-flingers a platform to demonize people and businesses who don't reflexively endorse their hysteria, the company capitulated.
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There's a Dick's out in the Galleria (Bee Cave). I've bought a few work-out items in the past. I don't know if gun sales are a cash cow for them. I'm pretty cynical. It may be that they've run the numbers and the under twenty one sales might not have moved the dial that much. It's more their "reputation" now with sportsmen. That's much harder to quantify. Time will tell.
 
Joe Fan said:
There is an unrelated case before SCOTUS now, but the 2nd A came up

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Political correctness is censorship and a clear indication of trying to regain power. Period. There are some laudable goals of general civility in the PC movement but it's clearly a political tool to frame the issues to a manageable level.
 
bystander said:
Political correctness is censorship and a clear indication of trying to regain power. Period. There are some laudable goals of general civility in the PC movement but it's clearly a political tool to frame the issues to a manageable level.
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Ben Shapiro addressed PC at CPAC. I posted this vid earlier. He claims PC is dying. It's what most of the speech is about but he drives it home at the end.

 
There are many culpable parties here. I have to add that I think it absurd that we prevent an 18-year old from buying beer because it might be used dangerously, but allow him to buy an AR-15. I know the NRA and I disagree on that.
 
bystander said:
Political correctness is censorship and a clear indication of trying to regain power. Period. There are some laudable goals of general civility in the PC movement but it's clearly a political tool to frame the issues to a manageable level.
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All the State had to do was demonstrate that the Tea Party-specific elements of the shirt comprised 'campaigning' for a party inside of the protected zone (whatever it is, 50 feet or so) and they failed miserably at making the most basic of arguments.

Instead, as noted, the State comes across as endorsing ONLY that speech which the SJW crowd approves of at the moment in time...
 
I respect your opinions Crockett, but I have to state this: You and those like you are the problem. Obviously, we would all be safer without guns. Unfortunately, liberals that support governments that are intent on subjugating the people in favor of their ideology and "transcendant values" tend to forcibly curtail freedom to meet their objectives. This is an undeniable fact throughout history.

Man is imperfect. Politicians are vindictive, ambitious, have a love of power, and are not to be trusted. The founders knew all of this and wrote a Constitution with the purpose of guarding freedom from the inherent weaknesses of men. Unfortunately even the Constitution is under constant attack and continuously eroded by liberals and even by conservatives to a lesser extent. Hence, the Second Amendment. It is tragic that innocent people die in order to uphold the Constitution, but what are the long-run options?
 
I like to listen to real people and they always surprise me. I know a young waitress (Latina) who lives with a Dreamer. They are sweating the situation out. But today she posted the Dick's sign on her FB page and you know what she said? "Why don't they sue the F'n FBI?"

So she didn't go with the assault weapon argument. Interesting. She's not in lock-step. She's more of a "all politics are local" and the Dreamer situation is definitely local for her. But it appears she has a different opinion on guns.
 
Crockett said:
I guess all you guys with man cards buy into the NRA fantasy that wherever there can possibly be bad actors. there should be comparably armed good guys with guns.
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So now you're not just arguing about keeping guns away from bad people, you're actually arguing that no one should have them? I'm not clear where you're going with this? Or is "comparably armed" the key term? Because the problem with that is that the narrative is already being put out there by media outlets that a pistol is worthless against an AR, so why bother? There's no effective reason for being armed with a handgun, so you shouldn't have one to begin with.

And btw, just because you put in the "comparably armed" point doesn't mean that's how it's being argued. I don't see anyone out there talking about the "myth of the comparably armed good guy." It's all about the idea that "good guys with guns can't help, so stop pretending they exist." That has been the relentless narrative.
 
So here's a question - assuming Dick's is actually on the level about "stopping" sales of things that they may or may not actually stock in their stores. If they're stocking guns of any kind, and it's legal for me to buy them, and they won't do it if I'm a certain age, how is that legal? Isn't that the very definition of discrimination? Isn't that the basic argument that the whole gay wedding cake situation rose out of? "You have these for sale, but you won't sell it to me because of your religious beliefs, even though you'll sell them to other people."

Frankly I don't really care about the 21-year age limit, and I'd be fine with that limitation personally. But I'm not sure how a store can unilaterally decide that you don't have a right to do something that the law says you can do.
 


I'm very upset about this. I used to love being able to swing by Kroger's, grab a bag of chips and a couple of guns, swipe them through the quick check aisle and be on my way. No more, apparently...
 
Crockett said:
I guess all you guys with man cards buy into the NRA fantasy that wherever there can possibly be bad actors. there should be comparably armed good guys with guns.
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*there should be the freedom of comparably armed good guys with guns.

if that's a fantasy ... what can possibly be the inverse of that situation? peace? RIGGGHT.

Evidently when your preference is fantasy, it's easy to deem anything contrary to that preference as fantasy.
 
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