OK long post, but you guys waded into theology so you asked for it...
It's one thing to use the Top Ten as a moral guide, or to benefit from the wisdom of Proverbs or the relative poetry of Psalms. It's another thing to cling to the minutia of Leviticus.
There is a SENSE in which Bubba is correct here - but there's more to it than that.
It is actually true that Christians are NOT under the law of Moses OR the 10 Commandments. (Hear me out!!) The 10 Commandments are the central moral framework on which the entire law of Moses was given. But here's the thing:
14 You shall keep the Sabbath, because it is holy for you. Everyone who profanes it shall be put to death. Whoever does any work on it, that soul shall be cut off from among his people. 15 Six days shall work be done, but the seventh day is a Sabbath of solemn rest, holy to the LORD. Whoever does any work on the Sabbath day shall be put to death. 16 Therefore the people of Israel shall keep the Sabbath, observing the Sabbath throughout their generations, as a covenant forever. 17 It is a sign forever between me and the people of Israel that in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, and on the seventh day he rested and was refreshed.’ ”
Ex 31:14–17 (Also see Deut. 5:12-15)
That's God speaking through Moses to to Israel, the nation, God's chosen people at the time. The Sabbath is specifically given as a part of God's covenant with Israel -
it was never and has never been bound on the Gentiles. (In fact Paul talks about this in 1 Cor. 2:
16 Therefore let no one pass judgment on you in questions of food and drink, or with regard to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath. 17 These are a shadow of the things to come, but the substance belongs to Christ.
That goes for the rest of the law - it was given to Israel as a nation. That stuff about not eating shellfish? Not applicable to Christians. The stuff that the atheist loves to point out about mixing fibers in garments, all those commands that we think are weird (but actually have a purpose in teaching lessons to Israel as well as to us today)... none of those apply to the Gentiles, which is (I'm assuming) most of us.
So Bubba says "WOOO! Gay sex is OK because the law doesn't apply to us!" (OK maybe he's not that enthusiastic about it...) But there's a problem. Just because the law of Moses was given to Israel only doesn't mean that God just invented sins on Mount Sinai that He never held humanity accountable for in the past. In fact, Israel was being sent into Canaan in part to punish those nations who had continuously violated God's moral law on all sorts of things - including sodomy.
Le 18:22–29
22 You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination. 23 And you shall not lie with any animal and so make yourself unclean with it, neither shall any woman give herself to an animal to lie with it: it is perversion.
24 “Do not make yourselves unclean by any of these things, for by all these the nations I am driving out before you have become unclean, 25 and the land became unclean, so that I punished its iniquity, and the land vomited out its inhabitants. 26 But you shall keep my statutes and my rules and do none of these abominations, either the native or the stranger who sojourns among you 27 (for the people of the land, who were before you, did all of these abominations, so that the land became unclean), 28 lest the land vomit you out when you make it unclean, as it vomited out the nation that was before you. 29 For everyone who does any of these abominations, the persons who do them shall be cut off from among their people.
Are Christians "under the 10 Commandments?" No. But that doesn't mean they are not under law. And just as Gentiles would have been guilty of murder even if they weren't bound by the 10 Commandments back then, it's still true today. It's like saying that since I'm not bound by Mexico's law on murder, that means it's OK for me to murder. We get that law doesn't work that way - laws overlap all the time, and as it happens, every other command of the 10 commandments is reiterated and elaborated on under Christ.
I think labeling sexual preference that has been around for centuries as damning is akin to damning someone for eating the wrong thing.
But you'd be wrong, because Jesus does it.
Now when Jesus had finished these sayings, he went away from Galilee and entered the region of Judea beyond the Jordan. 2 And large crowds followed him, and he healed them there.
3 And Pharisees came up to him and tested him by asking, “Is it lawful to divorce one’s wife for any cause?” 4 He answered, “Have you not read that he who created them from the beginning made them male and female, 5 and said, ‘Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh’? 6 So they are no longer two but one flesh. What therefore God has joined together, let not man separate.” - Mt 19:1–6.
"Wait a second, Jesus! That part in Genesis was written like 2,000 years ago! You can't seriously still think that's valid?"
Yes... because that's God's command and it doesn't come with an expiration date. It is God's plan for man dating back to the creation, and it's still in force. Just because you don't think you should be bound by something that was in effect thousands of years ago doesn't mean God has somehow changed His mind on the subject. If it was a sin then, it's a sin now - and we know that homosexuality was sinful in God's eyes even before the law of Moses was put into place - and as someone has pointed out, it is reiterated as sinful under Christ.
I figure the philosophy put forth by the Carpenter is more sound and it is more like a guide for living.
Where do you think Paul got his teaching?
11 For I would have you know, brothers, that the gospel that was preached by me is not man’s gospel. 12 For I did not receive it from any man, nor was I taught it, but I received it through a revelation of Jesus Christ - Ga 1:11–12.
And guess who affirmed that? Peter, one of the 12 who was with Jesus, who was also an apostle.
15 And count the patience of our Lord as salvation, just as our beloved brother Paul also wrote to you according to the wisdom given him, 16 as he does in all his letters when he speaks in them of these matters. There are some things in them that are hard to understand, which the ignorant and unstable twist to their own destruction, as they do the other Scriptures.
2 Pe 3:15–16.
The modern concept that Paul "took over the church" when he was converted is propagated so people can ignore his teachings. But they came from Jesus just as Peter's and John's. And what does Jesus say about listening to his apostles?
20 Truly, truly, I say to you, whoever receives the one I send receives me, and whoever receives me receives the one who sent me.” - Jn 13:20.
Think for a second about the attitude that is manifested in listening to one of Jesus' apostles - whom he sent out specifically to teach the Gospel that he had revealed to them - and saying "That's not good enough! I have to hear Jesus say it himself or it's not good!" Jesus taught that is an outright rejection of his teaching as well as that of the apostles.