Riots in Minneapolis

Mayor of Seattle calls "protestors" patriots, refuses to condemn what's going on. Police Chief says he didn't order the abandonment of nearby police station, doesn't know who did.

Seattle doesn't seem to realize that this is no longer about George Floyd. These are hardcore Leftists with a radical agenda who use the chaos from the Floyd situation to advance their causes. Seattle is fooked.
 
Clean said:
These are hardcore Leftists with a radical agenda
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I think the Mayor is one of them. They are very stealthy about it. That avoid the word Marxist. They try to act moderate (Biden is the front) but make no mistake about it; the Seattle Mayor is one of them.

You have to just say no and vote them out where you can.
 
If Seinfeld were still around, they would be too afraid to tackle the PC army of today
Too bad - there is so much rich comedy material just sitting there crying out to be used. And nobody is taking advantage, with the exception of Dave Chappelle (anyone else come to mind?)

 
Clean said:
Mayor of Seattle calls "protestors" patriots, refuses to condemn what's going on. Police Chief says he didn't order the abandonment of nearby police station, doesn't know who did.

Seattle doesn't seem to realize that this is no longer about George Floyd. These are hardcore Leftists with a radical agenda who use the chaos from the Floyd situation to advance their causes. Seattle is fooked.
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Obama gave serious consideration to naming her USAG

She seems OK with rape too -- means justifying the ends

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I'm going to keep banging the drum. Biden is openly handing power to Beto and AOC. He is allowing their voice to be heard and the DNC is clearly grooming them for the future. That is the Democrat Party. The moderates (of which I am one) are no longer to be considered. These people are a combination of power elites (cynical; hypocritical; liars to the core), people of color who have been enflamed by unfortunate acts of racism (overt and otherwise), wards of the state and then the most heinous of all: the white liberal activist who is vain, vile, arrogant, a communist, an anarchist, a troll, full of hatred, bent on revenge and fully capable of rounding up those they deem to be against their cause.

That is the future of the America if we let it happen.
 
mchammer, if that is peaceful, I am monkey's uncle.

I believe that there need to be some significant police reforms, but in that video I side with the police. A violent mob stopped them and tried to beat them up just for having a uniform on. That whole group showed a huge amount of restraint.

The sad thing is that was another example of black on black crime as the black rioters attacked the black police men. It isn't race guys. It's politics.
 
Leftists have been fans of mass murder since at least the times of NY Times' Walter Duranty.

FDR himself liked Stalin's economic policy.
 
bystander said:
I think we know this is far more than a fight against racism. These people are zealots and there will never be a negotiation. They are in it all the way. They are sick sick people.
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I ask this question all the time, what are we supposed to do with them?
They tell us they hate the US on a daily basis. Yet they also refuse to leave it.
What remains as a remedy?
 
Monahorns said:
Leftists have been fans of mass murder since at least the times of NY Times' Walter Duranty.
FDR himself liked Stalin's economic policy.
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You would think Hollywood would have done a few movies about that by now
And I bet they have been many scripts pitches on it over the decades.
They make movies and shows about people like Sarah Palin, Roger Ailes, Dick Cheney and even Valerie Plame. But never one about Comrade Duranty
Go figure
Walter-Duranty.jpg
 
Joe Fan said:
I ask this question all the time, what are we supposed to do with them?
They tell us they hate the US on a daily basis. Yet they also refuse to leave it.
What remains as a remedy?
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There is no remedy. They are emotionally involved. They are zealots. Their hatred is a sign of imbalance. It's rooted in some level of truth but their reaction to reality is delusional and self-justifying.
 
Clean said:
Does the "Battle for Seattle" remind you a little of ISIS? A rouge group with a radical ideology trying set up an autonomous zone within an existing state? This could be the start of something big if it spreads.
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It's more like Cliven Bundy that you guys all loved.
 
Joe Fan said:
I ask this question all the time, what are we supposed to do with them?
They tell us they hate the US on a daily basis. Yet they also refuse to leave it.
What remains as a remedy?
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Edgar Hoover rounded up the anarchists after WWI and sent them to Europe.
 
I don't think the Seatle zone is cool. They need to shut down the party. There may be blood. The wedge issue "defund the police" needs some clarification. There's a difference between "defunding the police" and migrating funding from police to social work or drug behavior interdiction. I know pissed off people don't see it, leaders do.
 
OUBubba said:
It's more like Cliven Bundy that you guys all loved.
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Perhaps you would care to comment, then, on the discrepancy in how the Communist News Network is covering Seattle. How is it that Bundy was a terrorist but Seattle idiots are NOT? Same network, two different positions that are clearly based upon political leanings...
 
Sangre Naranjada said:
Shoot them on sight. Pretty simple really.
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Sometimes it does feel like we are headed to armed confrontation.
But then I realize our media is corrupt and they have blown this out of proportion. It is not near as large a movement as they are making it seem. There is an election upon us.
 
bystander said:
There is no remedy. They are emotionally involved. They are zealots. Their hatred is a sign of imbalance. It's rooted in some level of truth but their reaction to reality is delusional and self-justifying.
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So we just keep letting them burn shyte down?
 
Part 1:

UC Berkeley History Professor's Open Letter Against BLM, Police Brutality and Cultural Orthodoxy


Dear profs X, Y, Z


I am one of your colleagues at the University of California, Berkeley. I have met you both personally but do not know you closely, and am contacting you anonymously, with apologies. I am worried that writing this email publicly might lead to me losing my job, and likely all future jobs in my field.


In your recent departmental emails you mentioned our pledge to diversity, but I am increasingly alarmed by the absence of diversity of opinion on the topic of the recent protests and our community response to them.



In the extended links and resources you provided, I could not find a single instance of substantial counter-argument or alternative narrative to explain the under-representation of black individuals in academia or their over-representation in the criminal justice system. The explanation provided in your documentation, to the near exclusion of all others, is univariate: the problems of the black community are caused by whites, or, when whites are not physically present, by the infiltration of white supremacy and white systemic racism into American brains, souls, and institutions.


Many cogent objections to this thesis have been raised by sober voices, including from within the black community itself, such as Thomas Sowell and Wilfred Reilly. These people are not racists or 'Uncle Toms'. They are intelligent scholars who reject a narrative that strips black people of agency and systematically externalizes the problems of the black community onto outsiders. Their view is entirely absent from the departmental and UCB-wide communiques.


The claim that the difficulties that the black community faces are entirely causally explained by exogenous factors in the form of white systemic racism, white supremacy, and other forms of white discrimination remains a problematic hypothesis that should be vigorously challenged by historians. Instead, it is being treated as an axiomatic and actionable truth without serious consideration of its profound flaws, or its worrying implication of total black impotence. This hypothesis is transforming our institution and our culture, without any space for dissent outside of a tightly policed, narrow discourse.


A counternarrative exists. If you have time, please consider examining some of the documents I attach at the end of this email. Overwhelmingly, the reasoning provided by BLM and allies is either primarily anecdotal (as in the case with the bulk of Ta-Nehisi Coates' undeniably moving article) or it is transparently motivated. As an example of the latter problem, consider the proportion of black incarcerated Americans. This proportion is often used to characterize the criminal justice system as anti-black. However, if we use the precise same methodology, we would have to conclude that the criminal justice system is even more anti-male than it is anti-black.


Would we characterize criminal justice as a systemically misandrist conspiracy against innocent American men? I hope you see that this type of reasoning is flawed, and requires a significant suspension of our rational faculties. Black people are not incarcerated at higher rates than their involvement in violent crime would predict. This fact has been demonstrated multiple times across multiple jurisdictions in multiple countries.


And yet, I see my department uncritically reproducing a narrative that diminishes black agency in favor of a white-centric explanation that appeals to the department's apparent desire to shoulder the 'white man's burden' and to promote a narrative of white guilt.


If we claim that the criminal justice system is white-supremacist, why is it that Asian Americans, Indian Americans, and Nigerian Americans are incarcerated at vastly lower rates than white Americans? This is a funny sort of white supremacy. Even Jewish Americans are incarcerated less than gentile whites. I think it's fair to say that your average white supremacist disapproves of Jews. And yet, these alleged white supremacists incarcerate gentiles at vastly higher rates than Jews. None of this is addressed in your literature. None of this is explained, beyond hand-waving and ad hominems. "Those are racist dogwhistles". "The model minority myth is white supremacist". "Only fascists talk about black-on-black crime", ad nauseam.


These types of statements do not amount to counterarguments: they are simply arbitrary offensive classifications, intended to silence and oppress discourse. Any serious historian will recognize these for the silencing orthodoxy tactics they are, common to suppressive regimes, doctrines, and religions throughout time and space. They are intended to crush real diversity and permanently exile the culture of robust criticism from our department.


Increasingly, we are being called upon to comply and subscribe to BLM's problematic view of history, and the department is being presented as unified on the matter. In particular, ethnic minorities are being aggressively marshaled into a single position. Any apparent unity is surely a function of the fact that dissent could almost certainly lead to expulsion or cancellation for those of us in a precarious position, which is no small number.



I personally don't dare speak out against the BLM narrative, and with this barrage of alleged unity being mass-produced by the administration, tenured professoriat, the UC administration, corporate America, and the media, the punishment for dissent is a clear danger at a time of widespread economic vulnerability. I am certain that if my name were attached to this email, I would lose my joband all future jobs, even though I believe in and can justify every word I type.
 
Part 2:

The vast majority of violence visited on the black community is committed by black people. There are virtually no marches for these invisible victims, no public silences, no heartfelt letters from the UC regents, deans, and departmental heads. The message is clear: Black lives only matter when whites take them. Black violence is expected and insoluble, while white violence requires explanation and demands solution. Please look into your hearts and see how monstrously bigoted this formulation truly is.


No discussion is permitted for nonblack victims of black violence, who proportionally outnumber black victims of nonblack violence. This is especially bitter in the Bay Area, where Asian victimization by black assailants has reached epidemic proportions, to the point that the SF police chief has advised Asians to stop hanging good-luck charms on their doors, as this attracts the attention of (overwhelmingly black) home invaders. Home invaders like George Floyd. For this actual, lived, physically experienced reality of violence in the USA, there are no marches, no tearful emails from departmental heads, no support from McDonald's and Wal-Mart. For the History department, our silence is not a mere abrogation of our duty to shed light on the truth: it is a rejection of it.


The claim that black intraracial violence is the product of redlining, slavery, and other injustices is a largely historical claim. It is for historians, therefore, to explain why Japanese internment or the massacre of European Jewry hasn't led to equivalent rates of dysfunction and low SES performance among Japanese and Jewish Americans respectively. Arab Americans have been viciously demonized since 9/11, as have Chinese Americans more recently. However, both groups outperform white Americans on nearly all SES indices- as do Nigerian Americans, who incidentally have black skin. It is for historians to point out and discuss these anomalies. However, no real discussion is possible in the current climate at our department. The explanation is provided to us, disagreement with it is racist, and the job of historians is to further explore additional ways in which the explanation is additionally correct. This is a mockery of the historical profession.



Most troublingly, our department appears to have been entirely captured by the interests of the Democratic National Convention, and the Democratic Party more broadly. To explain what I mean, consider what happens if you choose to donate to Black Lives Matter, an organization UCB History has explicitly promoted in its recent mailers. All donations to the official BLM website are immediately redirected to ActBlue Charities, an organization primarily concerned with bankrolling election campaigns for Democrat candidates. Donating to BLM today is to indirectly donate to Joe Biden's 2020 campaign. This is grotesque given the fact that the American cities with the worst rates of black-on-black violence and police-on-black violence are overwhelmingly Democrat-run. Minneapolis itself has been entirely in the hands of Democrats for over five decades; the 'systemic racism' there was built by successive Democrat administrations.


The patronizing and condescending attitudes of Democrat leaders towards the black community, exemplified by nearly every Biden statement on the black race, all but guarantee a perpetual state of misery, resentment, poverty, and the attendant grievance politics which are simultaneously annihilating American political discourse and black lives. And yet, donating to BLM is bankrolling the election campaigns of men like Mayor Frey, who saw their cities devolve into violence. This is a grotesque capture of a good-faith movement for necessary police reform, and of our department, by a political party. Even worse, there are virtually no avenues for dissent in academic circles. I refuse to serve the Party, and so should you.


The total alliance of major corporations involved in human exploitation with BLM should be a warning flag to us, and yet this damning evidence goes unnoticed, purposefully ignored, or perversely celebrated. We are the useful idiots of the wealthiest classes, carrying water for Jeff Bezos and other actual, real, modern-day slavers. Starbucks, an organisation using literal black slaves in its coffee plantation suppliers, is in favor of BLM. Sony, an organisation using cobalt mined by yet more literal black slaves, many of whom are children, is in favor of BLM. And so, apparently, are we. The absence of counter-narrative enables this obscenity. Fiat lux, indeed.


There also exists a large constituency of what can only be called 'race hustlers': hucksters of all colors who benefit from stoking the fires of racial conflict to secure administrative jobs, charity management positions, academic jobs and advancement, or personal political entrepreneurship.


Given the direction our history department appears to be taking far from any commitment to truth, we can regard ourselves as a formative training institution for this brand of snake-oil salespeople. Their activities are corrosive, demolishing any hope at harmonious racial coexistence in our nation and colonizing our political and institutional life. Many of their voices are unironically segregationist.


MLK would likely be called an Uncle Tom if he spoke on our campus today. We are training leaders who intend, explicitly, to destroy one of the only truly successful ethnically diverse societies in modern history. As the PRC, an ethnonationalist and aggressively racially chauvinist national polity with null immigration and no concept of jus solis increasingly presents itself as the global political alternative to the US, I ask you: Is this wise? Are we really doing the right thing?


As a final point, our university and department has made multiple statements celebrating and eulogizing George Floyd. Floyd was a multiple felon who once held a pregnant black woman at gunpoint. He broke into her home with a gang of men and pointed a gun at her pregnant stomach. He terrorized the women in his community. He sired and abandoned multiple children, playing no part in their support or upbringing, failing one of the most basic tests of decency for a human being. He was a drug-addict and sometime drug-dealer, a swindler who preyed upon his honest and hard-working neighbors.
 
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