Replacement for Augie....Who would you offer ???

[uisge beatha]

If not Herman will inherit a loaded team.

Why the love for Herman? What former successful UH coach would you want coaching us? Levine? Sumlin? Briles? Jenkins? Pardee? I think UH is schorched earth and I'd steer away from it

 

[Brad Austin]

Why the love for Herman?

Oh idk, maybe being OC/QB coach for a dominant, championship tOSU program under one of the top 2 current college coaches.

In 2014, he won the Broyles Award, given annually to the nation's top assistant coach.

Then in his first head gig he 'scorched earth' to 13 wins and a 14-point bowl victory over 10-2 recent national champ, 9th ranked FSU.

Care to wager who wins more games next year between Herman and CS?

UH has a solid team returning. Even with an unlikely downward slide he'll win 10 games.

23 wins over the first two seasons sounds great compared to the 11 we scraped together. Unless we miraculously go 12-2, CS will need 4 years to reach 23 wins.

So let's compare the first two seasons at UH between those you mention...

Herman: 23-5 (at worst) , 25-3 (more likely)
Sumlin: 18-9
Jenkins: 14-8
Pardee: 13-9-1
Briles: 10-14

There's a reason why Herman is the hottest name on the coaching market and everyone and their Grandma with an opening will stalk the guy next Jan.

Not all elite coordinators from national title programs move on to head gigs and ignore the other side of the football they don't coach.

 

[blonthang]

One huge thing that Pierce has that Strong and Smart didn't have coming in --- from-birth knowledge of Texas.

Born in Houston.
Played at Wharton JC.
Played at UH.
Coached HS at Dobie High.
Asst. Coach at UH
Asst. Coach at Rice
Coach at Sam Houston State

(Not to much of a stretch to assume he's compiled a thick Rolodex of high school baseball coaches in Texas over that time).

And you might check out some of his accomplishments along the way at:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Pierce_(baseball)

Looks like a really good hire IMHO.

Hook 'em

P.S., actually the Dionysus and Brad Austin posts on the accompanying thread of Pierce's hire are much more informative than my info above. Good reads, those posts.

 

[majorwhiteapples]

Herman will be the HC at UT, AM or OU in 2017 and will be the highest paid coach in the country. That UH team is going to smoke the doors off off OU. They have pay back for choking last year, beating OU will give them the skin they need to be in the Big XII and it will vault them into the top 5.

I am by no means a UH fan but when you have Applewhite and Giles down there, two coaches who should have been kept by Charlie, you have a solid Texas recruiting tandem.

Herman is the hottest coach in the land right now without question.

 

[Htown77]

Brad Austin sums up about where I am at.

I think Shaka is unproven, but I also think he is equal to Barnes and will be fine. Next year will be a rebuilding year for basketball and we will not actually see what Shaka is building until year 3. Making the tournament is always a successful season in my book for basketball so Shaka had a good year 1. Making it next year with what little we have returning would be great. Like I said, year 3 will be where we should start competing for a sweet 16 again.

Football, this year 3 is Charlie's make or break year. He has not done anything to merit any goodwill based on the on the field results of his first two seasons. We need see improvement this year (9 wins, possibly 8).

Baseball obviously is a wait and see. I have liked what i have heard about the new guy so far. He probably will have some more leeway for year 1 than Charlie or Shaka did since he inherited a team that just came off of a losing season. Just making the tournament would be improvement in year 1. Not saying that is my goal or we do not have the talent to do more, just he is the only one of those three coaches taking a over after a losing season. On the overall, he is a wait and see for 3 years like the other two.

 

[Phil Elliott]

Um, nevermind.

 

[sbmcruise]

Details from the Lubbock paper on Tadlock's contract problems:

Even if Tadlock had wanted to leave Lubbock there was this tiny thing embedded into his Texas Tech contract extension — a non-compete clause in forbidding him from taking another job in the Big 12 stating, “Coach agrees that the liquidated damages ... shall not be considered sufficient to mitigate against the loss.”

That clause was in both the contract extended on May 18 and in his prior contract signed on Aug. 19, 2014.

“Texas focusing baseball coaching search on Texas Tech’s Tim Tadlock, but non-compete clause in his contract is a big hurdle,” Statesman columnist Kirk Bohls posted to Twitter on Monday.

You think?

The buyout would have been at least $1.5 million per the agreement in the contract, stating he pay back $275,000 for the first year of the six-year contract and then decreasing by $10,000 each subsequent year.

And that does not even begin to address the damages that wouldn’t “mitigate against the loss” for leaving to go to a Big 12 program.

So no, Tim Tadlock wasn’t and isn’t going anywhere.

I'm sure Tim was excited to be offered the Texas Tech head coach job, but he got seriously out lawyered by Texas Tech's lawyers and perhaps his love for his alma matter. He is clearly the looser in the Longhorn head coaching marathon.

 

[56 Bells]

Details from the Lubbock paper on Tadlock's contract problems:

Even if Tadlock had wanted to leave Lubbock there was this tiny thing embedded into his Texas Tech contract extension — a non-compete clause in forbidding him from taking another job in the Big 12 stating, “Coach agrees that the liquidated damages ... shall not be considered sufficient to mitigate against the loss.”

That clause was in both the contract extended on May 18 and in his prior contract signed on Aug. 19, 2014.

“Texas focusing baseball coaching search on Texas Tech’s Tim Tadlock, but non-compete clause in his contract is a big hurdle,” Statesman columnist Kirk Bohls posted to Twitter on Monday.

You think?

The buyout would have been at least $1.5 million per the agreement in the contract, stating he pay back $275,000 for the first year of the six-year contract and then decreasing by $10,000 each subsequent year.

And that does not even begin to address the damages that wouldn’t “mitigate against the loss” for leaving to go to a Big 12 program.

So no, Tim Tadlock wasn’t and isn’t going anywhere.

I'm sure Tim was excited to be offered the Texas Tech head coach job, but he got seriously out lawyered by Texas Tech's lawyers and perhaps his love for his alma matter. He is clearly the looser in the Longhorn head coaching marathon.

Texas didn't even consider Tadlock....where are you getting the information? The guy is an idiot!!! Have you ever watched his news conferences? If you're getting your information from Kirk Bowels, you might as well be getting information from the Baylor Board of Regents.

 

[lecturer]

Texas didn't even consider Tadlock....where are you getting the information? The guy is an idiot!!! Have you ever watched his news conferences? If you're getting your information from Kirk Bowels, you might as well be getting information from the Baylor Board of Regents.

Hey, when it comes to believing what you want to, knock your socks off, but you simply could not be more wrong re UT not considering Tadlock.

 

[56 Bells]

UT "considered" Tadlock for about as long as they "considered" Skip as our new coach.
I know this as fact!

 

[sbmcruise]

I did an open records request for Tadlock's contract and got it emailed to me a few mitutes ago. It has a no nonsense non-compete clause very clearly giving TT the absolute right to a court order preventing Tadlock from going to any other B12 school. I'm a lawyer and confident that the clause is fully enforceable.

Pierce is now our guy and any further discussion of what might have been or the process is not helpful.