Randomness vs Order

[RayDog]

From a physicist's perspective all order is derived due to zero-point energy theory. Nothing can be linear down to zero energy.

To elaborate, once you have quantization at the basic level you have order imposed on a system. Beyond that, zero-point energy becomes the most fundamental thing that exists. Well, that and space-time.

 

[boon]

raydog,
i am interested, but perhaps you could elaborate in a way that would be consistent with exposing an idea to a lay audience.

 

[NBMisha]

Ah, the physical instance of order is the universe itself, starting with quanta.

The notion of maximum disorder (among things) is simply one limit of order.

 

[zork]

why isn't it random? what causes or caused the properties or laws to have order?

 

[Coelacanth]

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[A. BETTIK]

I would pose order and randomness are physically linked. Wherever you have a knot of order, a spherical halo of disorder must exist. Namely photons separating from matter as entropy.

The perception of order versus chaos may be an instinct. We survive by applying past experience to present and future situations. Some of our ability to recognize order comes from hardwiring and some from neural network learning. But all this presumes a long term store of energy and escape thereof, a breeding ground for similar events we can order into the various distributions referred to earlier. The sun shining on the earth is one such breeding ground.

The stuff that tends to happen more frequently we call order, the stuff we see less of randomness or disorder.