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Horn6721 said:
Yea Stupid me
HalRex pointed it out
so I then asked about Young
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I think Young is the type who will just fit in anywhere. It doesn't matter if he's forced into starting duty for some ****** team in his first season, because he just makes throws and extends plays. That's pretty much all that's required of a serviceable QB. I think the closest thing to him in about 10 years will be how Drew Brees fared after 10 years in the league. He should be the first QB taken, because teams should see how guys like Baker Mayfield worked out.

Levis, Stroud, and Richardson will all get taken in the first round. I just don't think any of them will come close to Young's NFL success.
 
SabreHorn said:
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The year that Washington State played Iowa State, I was coming off one of the seven surgeries resulting from me trying to dance with a mare at the ranch and she didn't like the way I led. I called the Bowl people to discuss parking, etc. They set me up with front row parking in the handicap lot on the South side of the dome. I literally only walked about 25-30 yards to the entrance. They even called my cell to make sure everything was ok.

We drove from Houston directly to Chris Madrid's because my grandson thinks it is his birthright to eat at Chris' whenever he gets close to Bexar County. Mike Leach was his hero (along with Drew Brees). The bowl put us behind the Wazzou bench. When the game was over, we got in the car and pulled out onto 37 at midnight, got back to Houston about 245, repacked and got to NOLA about 3.

The Rose Bowl should hire the Alamo Bowl to teach them how to run an event. For that matter, the Rose Bowl could take lessons from the Bandidos on customer service.
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Also, sorry, my mistake, I mispoke...it is not the Alamo Bowl that has a terrible reputation among the local disability community, it's the Alamodome. Big difference. My apology, didn't mean to impune the Bowl.
 
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Just did a little searching on career ending injuries.

Willis McGahee had almost 10,000 yards offense in the NFL. Injury was kinda gruesome. No idea how the injury impacted his overall career.

Marcus Lattimore. Blew out a knee his sophomore year then blew out the other as a junior in a conference game. Not a bowl game. Not eligible to enter the draft prior to injury.

Sergio Kindle. Hurt in a bowl game that led to the end of his career.

Anthony Poindexter. Thought he never made NFL but read an article saying he played 3 years. Certainly impacted him, but he’s had a pretty nice career in football. Regular season game. Returned for Sr season.

Hodges Mitchell. Cheap shot in my opinion. Not sure of his chances pre-injury, but that seemed to end it.

Jaylon Smith. Still playing so who knows.

I would say far more dudes stock drops once true Draft evals take place than bowl game injuries causing injury concerns.
 
Ok Got it and in Kindle's case it was off the field injury.
I got confused when you said Kindle was hurt in a bowl game that ended his career. He actually had a good bowl game.
 
Horn6721 said:
Ok Got it and in Kindle's case it was off the field injury.
I got confused when you said Kindle was hurt in a bowl game that ended his career. He actually had a good bowl game.
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IIRC, Kindle was hurt off season falling down some stairs. Harmed him in NFL draft.
 
WorsterMan said:
IIRC, Kindle was hurt off season falling down some stairs. Harmed him in NFL draft.
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Kindle fell down the stairs 3 months after the draft.

There's a huge difference between someone bailing on a "meh" bowl game to protect their offseason training and draft status versus someone balling out in the playoff. Plus, Duggan can pretty much only help his draft status by playing. He's a late round pick at best.
 
So if it weren't the play offs Duggan should not risk injury in a meaningless bowl game?
What if Duggan gets injured but TCU wins?
 
i think it matters more for RBs, OL, and front 7. jmo but those guys get injured at a much higher rate than QBs, etc.

i also agree on "meh" bowl game vs playoff games.
 
Horn6721 said:
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If Duggan gets injured but TCU wins it was worth it because it was a playoff game?
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Dude, if you're in the playoffs then your season basically isn't over yet.
You're still playing for a championship.
If your team is in the Alamo bowl, your season is over.
The bowl is something extra that hopefully allows you to travel someplace cool and pick up some gifts and have one more game with your buddies if you want.
 
So Duggan or anyone headed to NFL Has to play in a playoff game even if they injure themselves and lose opportunity to play in NFL?.
 
Horn6721 said:
So Duggan or anyone headed to NFL Has to play in a playoff game even if they injure themselves and lose opportunity to play in NFL?.
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Nobody has to do anything they don't want to.
But if you don't understand the motivational differences between taking your team to a National Championship and playing in a meaningless bowl game then I don't know what else to tell you.
Really not sure what point you're trying to get across here.
 
Horn6721 said:
So X
If Duggan gets injured but TCU wins it was worth it because it was a playoff game?
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i mostly think it's the player's choice and if it's worth it to him then yes.

BUT...he's a college hero, a davey o'brien award winner, 2nd in heisman, but a Day 3 draft prospect. if I were he, I would play and it would be worth it.

EDITED: I think some guys wrestle with this a lot. And I understand why. They care about the team AND their future. Some guys don't care. But when a player opts out of a bowl game, I don't think it's a given that they don't care.
 
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Horn6721 said:
So Duggan or anyone headed to NFL Has to play in a playoff game even if they injure themselves and lose opportunity to play in NFL?.
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I am thinking we’re kinda on the same page here. If you think the risk of losing life changing earnings or a dream nfl opportunity is too great, then playoffs versus a meaningless bowl game is not terribly different.

Kindles career was basically ended by an off field injury. Hodges Mitchell on field.

Jaylon Smith and McGahee did not have career ending injuries. You can speculate that it negatively impacted them, but we don’t totally know. Perhaps they learned patience. Maybe hard work. Perservearance. From reading Cowboys fans view of Smith, he’s not that great cause he can’t read a play which has nothing to do with injury. And an 8-10 year career ain’t too shabby.

Career ending injuries in college aren’t just terribly common for high profile, highly protectable guys. And I’m not sure whether Neyor or Angilau seasons ending injuries were non-contact, which could happen during training. Point being, bad luck can get you anytime, anywhere.
 
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