Probable overturning of Roe v Wade

[Horn6721]

You all are correct. Minor error. Not important. We all have and will make mistakes.
I should not have been so critical. I went back and edited it
The most important issue is the protestors violating a federal and a state law with no consequence.

 

[bystander]

The liberal judge says, "we need to be on the 'right side of history,' so we don't particularly care what you said or what you meant. We're going to do F."

This is why you see me ranting about Liberals so much; that and other things they do.

 

[BrntOrngStmpeDe]

Idaho Republican Leader Says He'd Consider Banning Morning-After Pills and IUDs
I think anything short of giving away birth control is silly IF your intention is to outlaw abortions.

I don't think limiting contraceptives is a wide spread position but if it were, that is one election/vote where i would vote for a democrat. Our whole effort (of both sides) should be to do everything in our power to prevent the Unwanted/Unplanned pregnancy to begin with. I would go so far as to promote a free contraceptives agenda. The known societal impacts downstream of both abortion and unplanned babies is bad. Free contraceptives would truly be the 'ounce of prevention versus a pound of cure' tradeoff.

 

[mchammer]

wide spread position

For a moment I thought I was reading Hustler.

 

[guy4321]

NJ
I know you mentioned 1807. Not sure but isn't 1507 more applicable to the protestors breaking federal Law?
Bubba will be so upset if he reads this
18 U.S. Code § 1507 - Picketing or parading
"Whoever, with the intent of interfering with, obstructing, or impeding the administration of justice, or with the intent of influencing any judge, juror, witness, or court officer, in the discharge of his duty, pickets or parades in or near a building housing a court of the United States, or in or near a building or residence occupied or used by such judge, juror, witness, or court officer, or with such intent uses any sound-truck or similar device or resorts to any other demonstration in or near any such building or residence, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both.

I dunno how anyone can read that and come away with the folks outside Kavanaugh's and Alito's homes were doing something different than attempting to influence the judges.

 

[OUBubba]

I don't think limiting contraceptives is a wide spread position but if it were, that is one election/vote where i would vote for a democrat. Our whole effort (of both sides) should be to do everything in our power to prevent the Unwanted/Unplanned pregnancy to begin with. I would go so far as to promote a free contraceptives agenda. The known societal impacts downstream of both abortion and unplanned babies is bad. Free contraceptives would truly be the 'ounce of prevention versus a pound of cure' tradeoff.

#PREACH

 

[bystander]

I don't think limiting contraceptives is a wide spread position but if it were, that is one election/vote where i would vote for a democrat. Our whole effort (of both sides) should be to do everything in our power to prevent the Unwanted/Unplanned pregnancy to begin with. I would go so far as to promote a free contraceptives agenda. The known societal impacts downstream of both abortion and unplanned babies is bad. Free contraceptives would truly be the 'ounce of prevention versus a pound of cure' tradeoff.

It's nuts. The zealots need to be voted out. Religious zealots cannot be reasoned with and I have dealt with this from my ex-wife. She is mentally ill. She is a lawyer and had been using her time to support Abbott's pro-life position by attending meetings and submitting briefs. But as I said, she is mentally ill. NOBODY in her family wants to deal with her. She has been cut-off. She is obsessed with Jesus yet is welcomed by Abbott.

These people are the absolute equivalent to communists when it comes to their mental state.

 

[OUBubba]

It's nuts. The zealots need to be voted out. Religious zealots cannot be reasoned with and I have dealt with this from my ex-wife. She is mentally ill. She is a lawyer and had been using her time to support Abbott's pro-life position by attending meetings and submitting briefs. But as I said, she is mentally ill. NOBODY in her family wants to deal with her. She has been cut-off. She is obsessed with Jesus yet is welcomed by Abbott.

These people are the absolute equivalent to communists when it comes to their mental state.

You obviously don't get the GOP talking points. You meant "Marxist" instead of communists. It's trending better with the fox news crowd.

I agree with you on this, just being a smarty pants.

 

[bystander]

You obviously don't get the GOP talking points. You meant "Marxist" instead of communists. It's trending better with the fox news crowd.

I agree with you on this, just being a smarty pants.

That's alright. I was just trying to find the Left-wing equivalent.

At least I didn't say Liberals from Oklahoma.

 

[mchammer]

You obviously don't get the GOP talking points. You meant "Marxist" instead of communists. It's trending better with the fox news crowd.

I agree with you on this, just being a smarty pants.

We have this thing called democracy where these issues get worked out via voting. The problem is leftists doing end-arounds by getting laws passed via the judicial branch. That is the issue. Everything else is fluff. Leftists are bad, period, because they don’t care about following the law.

 

[mchammer]

That's alright. I was just trying to find the Left-wing equivalent.

They are not equivalent. See my post.

 

[bystander]

They are not equivalent. See my post.

I saw that. I was referring to the intent of totalitarianism. Their minds are the same; obsessed and oppressive. You have no freedoms with them. They "know" better. Why?

Because Jesus said so.

And many of these people refuse to accept the election results. I do. I do not believe it was stolen.

 

[mchammer]

And many of these people refuse to accept the election results. I do. I do not believe it was stolen.

Further to my point, the leftists got judges to change election rules that benefitted them.

 

[mchammer]

And many of these people refuse to accept the election results. I do. I do not believe it was stolen.

As detailed in Federalist Editor in Chief Mollie Hemingway’s book “Rigged,” Elias helped orchestrate the effort to change hundreds of election laws and processes in the months leading up to the 2020 election in order to flood elections with tens of millions of mail-in ballots. The changes were then exploited by left-wing groups funded by hundreds of millions of dollars from Mark Zuckerberg to run Democrat Get-Out-The-Vote operations from inside government election offices.

 

[Horn6721]

BOSD
The group that libs are screaming most affected if they can't get abortion on demand, poor black women,can get birth control free
BUT they also have to use it.
Any unwed woman who gives birth on the taxpayer dime gets counseling and info on getting birth control by a hospital social worker with the addresses of clinics including PP here they can get BC
BUT they have to use it.

 

[BrntOrngStmpeDe]

BOSD
The group that libs are screaming most affected if they can't get abortion on demand, poor black women,can get birth control free
BUT they also have to use it.
Any unwed woman who gives birth on the taxpayer dime gets counseling and info on getting birth control by a hospital social worker with the addresses of clinics including PP here they can get BC
BUT they have to use it.

I do understand that it is typically available for those that ask, and that when it is not used, it is typically the choice of the woman rather than lack of availability at play....But, if the GOP really wants to sound sincere to most of America when it comes to stopping abortions then they will come out in favor of stopping the pregnancies as well. In the Army, we called this "left of bang". Double entendre intended.

 

[Monahorns]

I don't know of any Rs or conservatives who are against birth control methods. This sounds like a Big Lie to me. But Ds have been believing them for years now.

 

[OUBubba]

I don't know of any Rs or conservatives who are against birth control methods. This sounds like a Big Lie to me. But Ds have been believing them for years now.

Bruh....I posted a link. Also, I think that the version of Catholicism represented by the Samuel Alito's of the world (Opus Dei) are against any use of contraception. There are some conservative groups out there that are relatively minor that are also against birth control because the gift of sex is only to procreate.

Here's this one: Intimacy in Matrimony: Spousal Happiness and Openness to Life - Opus Dei

 

[Horn6721]

Bubba
Are you serious? You call a state rep from Idaho saying he MIGHT consider banning BC as representing GOP view?
Come on
That is the second time you have tried to use a loon's opinion as a GOP view.
Each party has loons.
Should we pick one of yours and post that is a Dem position?

 

[Sangre Naranjada]

Each party has loons.
Should we pick one of yours and post that is a Dem position?

Why not? It is done all the time.

 

[OUBubba]

Each party has loons.
Should we pick one of yours and post that is a Dem position?

I AM THE ONE WHO KNOCKS!

He's the one saying the quiet part out loud. Roe was decided law until a Catholic majority assumed their places. Gird your loins!

There will be some unique things coming in the future. Companies who pay for their staff to travel out of state for abortions will become liable under the laws like Texas'. No?

 

[Horn6721]

So because a Dem thinks abortion should be ok even during labor and that it is ok to withhold medical care to alive babies that is now Dem's position?

 

[OUBubba]

So because a Dem thinks abortion should be ok even during labor and that it is ok to withhold medical care to alive babies that is now Dem's position?

Well, that's what has been ascribed to these "evil democrats", no?

 

[Mr. Deez]

When a state actually enacts a birth control ban, then I'll get worried. Bills getting filed is pretty meaningless. We're a lot closer to slavery reparations than we are to bans on birth control.

As for free birth control, I'm receptive but skeptical. Is inability to afford birth control the main reason we have out-of-wedlock births? I just have a hard time accepting that. Full disclosure, I haven't bought rubbers or birth control pills in years, but I don't remember either being very pricey.

 

[Sangre Naranjada]

If white liberals view your demographic as too poor and incompetent to get an ID to vote, they probably also view your demographic as too poor and incompetent to understand 1) the link between intercourse and pregnancy; 2) how to buy and use birth control.
Thus, white liberals think it is a grand gesture of magnanimity on their part to fight for your right to kill your own baby.

 

[mchammer]

 

[mchammer]

When a state actually enacts a birth control ban, then I'll get worried. Bills getting filed is pretty meaningless. We're a lot closer to slavery reparations than we are to bans on birth control.

As for free birth control, I'm receptive but skeptical. Is inability to afford birth control the main reason we have out-of-wedlock births? I just have a hard time accepting that. Full disclosure, I haven't bought rubbers or birth control pills in years, but I don't remember either being very pricey.

Given the back and forth on the abortion issue, it appears access to contraception is the line for the pro-choice folks, not abortion (except for the hardliners). Their response tips their hand on what they truly feel about abortion (they are not wild about it either, except for the true whacko baby killers).

 

[mchammer]

Apparently a lot of misinformation out there (where is the new government board on this?):

 

[Horn6721]

Except BC IS readily available free or very very cheap. And information on BC is supplied readily too.
The one thing that hasn't been done is force them to actually use it.

 

[mchammer]