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OUBubba said:
You say that but it appears that this is not the case if you read the articles.
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The NY Times linked wanted me to pay to sign up so I didn't read that one. The second link showed that doctors could be afraid that care for a miscarriage could be viewed as an abortion. Perhaps fair so document well!!
 
guy4321 said:
The NY Times linked wanted me to pay to sign up so I didn't read that one. The second link showed that doctors could be afraid that care for a miscarriage could be viewed as an abortion. Perhaps fair so document well!!
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It was a story of a woman who had a miscarriage a while back handled very gently and appropriate by a Dallas hospital. Then, after the ruling, the same hospital sent her home to writhe in pain in her bloody bathtub. So, yeah, progress as promised!
 
OUBubba said:
It was a story of a woman who had a miscarriage a while back handled very gently and appropriate by a Dallas hospital. Then, after the ruling, the same hospital sent her home to writhe in pain in her bloody bathtub. So, yeah, progress as promised!
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The same woman had two miscarriages?
 
Screwed we are:

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nashhorn said:
I’d say the Dallas hospital, considering what you said the article stated is true, is a complete screw up.
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This is like the ******* teachers trying to create fake controversy on CRT and teaching gender ideology. The abortion laws do not impact treating miscarriages or ectopic pregnancies. This is all fabricated ********. I'm not saying the incidents didn't happen. I'm saying the laws are not creating real ambiguities on the matter.
 
Mr. Deez said:
This is like the ******* teachers trying to create fake controversy on CRT and teaching gender ideology. The abortion laws do not impact treating miscarriages or ectopic pregnancies. This is all fabricated ********. I'm not saying the incidents didn't happen. I'm saying the laws are not creating real ambiguities on the matter.
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But our favorite goober is never above repeating idiocy and falsehoods.
 
Mr. Deez said:
This is like the ******* teachers trying to create fake controversy on CRT and teaching gender ideology. The abortion laws do not impact treating miscarriages or ectopic pregnancies. This is all fabricated ********. I'm not saying the incidents didn't happen. I'm saying the laws are not creating real ambiguities on the matter.
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I think Texas doctors and hospital administrators are rightly afraid of the nutjobs out there.
 
Mr. Deez said:
No, these are politically motivated actors. They are represented by counsel who know what the law says.
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Ok. I would say that, yes, the person who stewed in her own blood in a bathtub over the weekend is now a politically motivated actor who is probably looking at filing suit for bad care. The doctors and hospital that turned her away to have the d/c due to the change in the law are NOT politically motivated actors. They're scared that they're going to be held PERSONALLY liable for facilitating the abortion due to the ****** way the Texas law is written.
 
OUBubba said:
Ok. I would say that, yes, the person who stewed in her own blood in a bathtub over the weekend is now a politically motivated actor who is probably looking at filing suit for bad care. The doctors and hospital that turned her away to have the d/c due to the change in the law are NOT politically motivated actors. They're scared that they're going to be held PERSONALLY liable for facilitating the abortion due to the ****** way the Texas law is written.
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Actually, the opposite is probably true. The patient probably is just trying to get care. She doesn't know any better. The doctor who turned her away is almost surely a politically motivated actor. Like I said, the doctor has almost surely been advised by counsel about the law, and no serious legal reading of the Act would reach the conclusion the doctor is reaching. I have read the Act, and I know the author personally. I even have some major problems and disagreements with it, which I've in posted about here. However, the miscarriage/ectopic pregnancy scare is not one of them. It is made-up, ********. You (and sometimes I) make fun of the election conspiracy theory stuff. This is much faker than that is. It's Alex Jones-level garbage.
 
MrD
Are you saying the Doc was advised by a lawyer to NOT give care?
Or that the Doc was advised exactly what the law said but chose to not give care?
 
Mr. Deez said:
Actually, the opposite is probably true. The patient probably is just trying to get care. She doesn't know any better. The doctor who turned her away is almost surely a politically motivated actor. Like I said, the doctor has almost surely been advised by counsel about the law, and no serious legal reading of the Act would reach the conclusion the doctor is reaching. I have read the Act, and I know the author personally. I even have some major problems and disagreements with it, which I've in posted about here. However, the miscarriage/ectopic pregnancy scare is not one of them. It is made-up, ********. You (and sometimes I) make fun of the election conspiracy theory stuff. This is much faker than that is. It's Alex Jones-level garbage.
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Doctors in Dallas hospitals are typically not "political actors". They deal with bureaucratic obstacles all the time. Doctors that become "political actors" are rare.

The patient was not a political actor until she got pissed. Much like many of the terrorists that we fight were created by "collateral damage" against their families.
 
Horn6721 said:
MrD
Are you saying the Doc was advised by a lawyer to NOT give care?
Or that the Doc was advised exactly what the law said but chose to not give care?
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I think one of two things happened. The doc may have not consulted a lawyer and just relied on disinformation from the New York Times and other left wing media outlets. (Frankly, if the doc got sued for malpractice, he should be able to bring the media outlets into the case and make them pay the damages.) More likely, I think the doctor was counseled (and would have been told to treat as normally) but is ideologically driven.
 
OUBubba said:
Doctors in Dallas hospitals are typically not "political actors". They deal with bureaucratic obstacles all the time. Doctors that become "political actors" are rare.

The patient was not a political actor until she got pissed. Much like many of the terrorists that we fight were created by "collateral damage" against their families.
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Key word is "typically." It only takes one ******* with an evil agenda.
 
OUBubba said:
Not ideologues. Confused medical providers. Texas hospitals are putting pregnant patients at risk by denying care out of fear of abortion laws, medical group says
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What part of this makes you think politics isn't driving this? The article doesn't say so.

And again, I've read the bill. There is absolutely no ambiguity on this at all. Zero. At least in Texas, this controversy is entirely made-up.

If the medical board wants to come up with some regulations to try to satisfy stupid people, that's fine. However, it's entirely for political theater and optics. Legally, there is absolutely no need for it at all.
 
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