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bystander said:
Watching Jeff Bezos Go to Space Was More Depressing Than Inspiring

The kind of reaction coming from the article is core Liberalism. It's game over. That's who they are. They are sick and if given enough power will destroy what we have.
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You don't think watching the guy who got RICH off of the pandemic spend his new money on a midlife crisis driven trip into the upper atmosphere and then thank the guys peeing in bottles who work for him? He could use a PR firm. The moon shot and the Apollo era was so much more inspiring.
 
OUBubba said:
You don't think watching the guy who got RICH off of the pandemic spend his new money on a midlife crisis driven trip into the upper atmosphere and then thank the guys peeing in bottles who work for him? He could use a PR firm. The moon shot and the Apollo era was so much more inspiring.
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On the same day he went to space it was announced he donated to $100M each to 2 different organization, one was run by Van Jones. Unfortunately, that didn't get any airtime because that donation was a tad more than 1/1000th of his net worth and he wasn't there to take credit. Missed the opportunity for the photo op.

Bezos has historically donated little of his wealth to public good causes. In comparison, his wife took her 50% of the wealth an donated $5.6B during the Pandemic.
 
Seattle Husker said:
On the same day he went to space it was announced he donated to $100M each to 2 different organization, one was run by Van Jones. Unfortunately, that didn't get any airtime because that donation was a tad more than 1/1000th of his net worth and he wasn't there to take credit. Missed the opportunity for the photo op.

Bezos has historically donated little of his wealth to public good causes. In comparison, his wife took her 50% of the wealth an donated $5.6B during the Pandemic.
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His ex wife didn’t earn it so she has no idea how tough it is to do what he has done.
Not giving money away does not mean the money is not being used to help others.

Give a man a fish…..
Teach a man to fish….
 
The politics of envy and resentment are well represented on this board.
 
^That's a very sad state of affairs - but predictable. Surely somewhere along the line, common sense will prevail - and the voters will say "Enough" and toss their elected leaders out of office. Otherwise the old adage will come into play - "If we keep going the way we're going, we'll wind up where we're headed."
 
And in case any Liberals try to skew opposition to defund the police, know this:

Everyone should be held accountable for their actions including the police.

But the over-riding factor is this:

In the absence of the law, upon your life a criminal will call...
 
And they wonder why crime is up in Chicago. Link. This article puts a lot of focus on the Jussie Smollett dismissal, which is more sensational, and though I wouldn't have dropped those charges, I don't think that one case aggravates the overall crime problem in Chicago. However, dropping large numbers of homicide, sex crime, felony battery, and felony drug charges undoubtedly does.

We've had crime surges at various times, and we've typically stopped them by boosting police activity and throwing more bad guys in the slammer for longer. What's different about this surge is that we're seeing some big city prosecutors actively and publicly sympathizing with bad guys and brazenly refusing to enforce the laws - by dropping large numbers of cases and even worse by announcing entire classes of cases that won't be prosecuted (which I think is is unconstitutional) for ideological or social justice reasons. When the rule of law doesn't matter to prosecutors, no amount of police enforcement is going to matter, and that's pretty frightening.
 
HornHuskerDad said:
The Chicago Police are expressing their opinion - Chicago Cops Turn Backs on Mayor after Police Shooting (yahoo.com). Not a bit surprising - all she has done is snipe at the police. Morale apparently has hit rock bottom.
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They should turn their backs on her. These ultra-woke mayors are a ******* disgrace, and their idiocy is killing or otherwise damaging innocent people for no good reason or upside. And police officers are taking the brunt of it. I feel bad for the people of these cities, but they're choosing these idiots, and most of them aren't hiding the ball. Dumb-fucks like Lori Lightfoot were pretty open about what their priorities would be.
 
Lori Lighthead is responsible for Ella French's murder. She's enabled criminals to do whatever they want with no consequences. Unless they're white, then they're used for political reasons. This I know from first hand experience.
 
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And therein lies the problem - the voters chose this moron. Sooner or later the voters have to rise up and demand change - or they'll keep going down the same road.
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And this is what's so damaging about wokeness. It comes up with baseless excuses for problems that divert attention and focus away from solving the problem. Chicago obviously has a serious violent crime problem, and much of it is gang-related. To take on gangs and criminal enterprises, you need aggressive policing and prosecutors willing to throw the book at offenders. Make them regret what they did, and if they don't and instead repeat their offenses, put them away for a long time to protect the public. However, the woke will blindly and reflexively blame racism for everything and take responsibility off the offender, and that invariably leads to more lax enforcement from both police and prosecutors, which is the last thing a city like Chicago needs. The people need to wake up like they did in New York City back in the '90s and decide that they've had enough.
 
The problem is that activists representing one sub-group of the whole are unfit to govern. It's always been true but Liberals are shoving them up our ***.
 
bystander said:
The problem is that activists representing one sub-group of the whole are unfit to govern. It's always been true but Liberals are shoving them up our ***.
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I think it's part of the broader radicalism that's happening in the big cities among white liberals. The defund the police movement is largely a hobby horse for elite leftists in big cities. They are mostly white, have money, and don't live in high-crime areas, so it doesn't impact them much. I don't think most city-dwellers actually support it. However, the elite white leftists have outsized influence within Democratic politics in the cities because they have money and connections, so they have success in primaries. Since big cities are solidly Democratic and rabidly so, winning the primary is good enough.

That wasn't always true. In NYC in the '90s, you had elite liberals, but you also had labor Democrats who had a little more sense. The elites didn't dominate as much as they do now. Furthermore, though the city was Democratic, people in general weren't as rabidly partisan, so they were willing to vote for a Republican with some common sense if the Democrats got too nutty. That isn't true anymore.
 
Mr. Deez said:
I think it's part of the broader radicalism that's happening in the big cities among white liberals. The defund the police movement is largely a hobby horse for elite leftists in big cities. They are mostly white, have money, and don't live in high-crime areas, so it doesn't impact them much. I don't think most city-dwellers actually support it. However, the elite white leftists have outsized influence within Democratic politics in the cities because they have money and connections, so they have success in primaries. Since big cities are solidly Democratic and rabidly so, winning the primary is good enough.
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Defund the Police never meant take funding away to "elite leftists" in the cities but rather it meant reallocate the existing money into more social services. Only the most radical BLM elements ever advocated abolishing police depts. The "elite leftists, to me the wealthy bleeding heary liberals, simply wanted to change how we police to combat the perceived racism and inequalities. Look no further than Seattle that took $100M away from Police which was achieved in part through reorganizing Social Workers embedded within the SPD into other parts of the city org. If you look at total funding of social services and SPD, funding actually increased significantly.

That wasn't always true. In NYC in the '90s, you had elite liberals, but you also had labor Democrats who had a little more sense. The elites didn't dominate as much as they do now. Furthermore, though the city was Democratic, people in general weren't as rabidly partisan, so they were willing to vote for a Republican with some common sense if the Democrats got too nutty. That isn't true anymore.
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Union leadership is still staunchly D thus they continue to get the lions share of the lobbying money for now. The rank and file has been lost to the Trump party though. Not sure the D's can regain their support for decades. Of course, their numbers are diminishing greatly as we've been shifting to a knowledge workers economy for a while. The D's loss has also been offset a bit by wealthy liberal elites coming from the tech companies in both numbers and lobbying power. The R's have lost them for the intermediate future also with the rise of Trump. Trump has had a huge impact on the political scene that will be felt for decades. The Ds likely came out the winner in that exchange but time will tell. Still looking for a party that cares about fiscal responsibility.
 
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In my view, the white elites are trying to prove they would have walked the Selma Bridge.

And to say the police weren't defunded by a transfer of funds is a stretch of epic proportions. Not as bad as Trump's media shill trying to say the Republicans defunded the police but it's in the same neighborhood. It's a clear rationalization of a huge mistake that was obvious from the get-go.
 
bystander said:
In my view, the white elites are trying to prove they would have walked the Selma Bridge.

And to say the police weren't defunded by a transfer of funds is a stretch of epic proportions. Not as bad as Trump's media shill trying to say the Republicans defunded the police but it's in the same neighborhood. It's a clear rationalization of a huge mistake that was obvious from the get-go.
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I can't speak to other cities but Seattle reached those budget cuts by moving 911 call center and parking enforcement out of the SPD as one example. There are bonified socialist in the Seattle City Council that wanted greater cuts but as usual saner heads prevailed by simply shifting the money around. Are there fewer uniformed police officers on the streets? Yes because of the open positions. Is there less money being used to attack crime and the root cause of that crime? No. Time will tell whether the money is being wisely spent or not.
 
Seattle Husker said:
Defund the Police never meant take funding away to "elite leftists" in the cities but rather it meant reallocate the existing money into more social services. Only the most radical BLM elements ever advocated abolishing police depts.
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"Only the most radical BLM elements ever advocated abolishing police depts" - so it did mean defund the police?
 
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