On the bathroom issue

[Crockett]

Saudi Arabia just banned immigration from Pakistan and is in the process of deporting 40,000 people they consider unstable jihadist elements. It is so immoral that they have enacted a Muslim ban.

I think this is perfectly in line with the Saudi Constitution. Some have long lamented the inefficiency of government when it's not led by an all powerful monarch.

Just an absurd thought, but it might be a pretty good black comedy skit to do a Maury Povich show in Saudi Arabia. At the end of the show the adultrous participants would all be beheaded, leaving kids who now know who their biological father is orphans.

 

[OUBubba]

Your statement is based on zero evidence whatsoever. If it is true, who gives a damn. Since when do we let terrorists (or potential terrorists) determine our policies? What fool would decide to appease the friends of possible terrorists so that those friends don't become terrorists? Honestly, what kind of coward are you to change our country for the benefit of a culture that considers women slaves, wants to subjugate all non-Muslims, and, to a great extent, wants sharia law? Open your eyes and look at Europe.

My statement echos the sentiments of the people actually fighting terrorism and the growth of terrorism. It's not letting terrorists guide our actions. It's realizing that there is a group that could be marginalized by the actual terrorists and switched over to terrorists. The most dangerous people to you and me is the guy that's already here trying to be a part of this country. Our best ally in the battle against radical muslims is the non-radical muslims. Also, I'd say the folks welcoming refugees openly aren't the cowards. To quote your great leader "you're the puppet".

 

[BrntOrngStmpeDe]

I find that statement interesting. I'd argue these executives are supporting their customers/constituents. Most Corporations don't lean left because it's the right thing to do but rather because there is an economic benefit to doing so. North Carolina just experienced it.

I would argue that the government has put their thumb on the scale and made corporations feel that the only 'safe' position is to be all in on 'diversity' and if you can get your agenda, whether it be bathrooms, LGBT, disability, womens pay, etc to fall under the all encompassing 'diversity' banner then you feel a lot safer in a court system that is loaded with activist judges. While I think you are correct that they've done a business calculation, I think the business calculation is based on fear and simply an attempt to shield themselves from lawsuits and the 'Chick Fil A' effect rather than an economic benefit.

 

[iatrogenic]

My statement echos the sentiments of the people actually fighting terrorism and the growth of terrorism. It's not letting terrorists guide our actions. It's realizing that there is a group that could be marginalized by the actual terrorists and switched over to terrorists. The most dangerous people to you and me is the guy that's already here trying to be a part of this country. Our best ally in the battle against radical muslims is the non-radical muslims. Also, I'd say the folks welcoming refugees openly aren't the cowards. To quote your great leader "you're the puppet".

I agree with you that the lack of vetting of foreigners has placed us in a poor position thanks to some extremely stupid immigration policies. Maybe the President will issue an Executive Order that slows the roll of immigrants into our country so we don't exacerbate the problem, but I can't remember if he's ever discussed that possibility.....

It seems that our best ally is ICE with the full support of your President, but they have been severely restricted in their activities until recently. However, if you believe that continuing to let potential terrorists into the country will help us stop terrorism, I have to point you to France and Germany, where such attitudes have had disastrous results.

In short, your idea, and your false statement that the "sentiments of the people actually fighting terrorism" is a universally accepted truth, has repeatedly been discredited via the authenticated feedback of hundreds of murders and multiple terrorist attacks in Europe. I also know Democrats want to ignore discordant facts.

 

[BrntOrngStmpeDe]

My statement echos the sentiments of the people actually fighting terrorism and the growth of terrorism. It's not letting terrorists guide our actions. It's realizing that there is a group that could be marginalized by the actual terrorists and switched over to terrorists. The most dangerous people to you and me is the guy that's already here trying to be a part of this country. Our best ally in the battle against radical muslims is the non-radical muslims. Also, I'd say the folks welcoming refugees openly aren't the cowards. To quote your great leader "you're the puppet".

You echo the sentiment of SOME of the people fighting terrorists. There are just as many on the other side of the argument. We have been able to nail down exactly zilch about what fosters terrorism. Young, old, rich, poor, educated, non-educated....there aren't any real patterns that you can hang your hat on. I did this work for a few years and in my opinion most of the bad guy leaders are just power hungry thugs that use religion as a banner to motivate the troops. Does a muslim ban feed that....probably...but they will find some other slight to blame even if it isn't the muslim ban or whatever. The underlying truth....again, just my opinion...is that until the world conforms 100% to their ideology and their quest for power, they will always find a justification for their actions.

We can either let in a few hundred thousand and worry about their actions and motivations, or we can limit it to what we have now and worry about tens of thousands. Also, IMO, by the third generation, every foreigner succumbs to the McDonalds/Walmart effect of America and is much less likely to become a 'homegrown' terrorist. IMO, the first and second generations are the most dangerous. But unfortunately, you can't skip gen 1 and gen 2.

 

[OUBubba]

I agree with you that the lack of vetting of foreigners has placed us in a poor position thanks to some extremely stupid immigration policies. Maybe the President will issue an Executive Order that slows the roll of immigrants into our country so we don't exacerbate the problem, but I can't remember if he's ever discussed that possibility.....

It seems that our best ally is ICE with the full support of your President, but they have been severely restricted in their activities until recently. However, if you believe that continuing to let potential terrorists into the country will help us stop terrorism, I have to point you to France and Germany, where such attitudes have had disastrous results.

In short, your idea, and your false statement that the "sentiments of the people actually fighting terrorism" is a universally accepted truth, has repeatedly been discredited via the authenticated feedback of hundreds of murders and multiple terrorist attacks in Europe. I also know Democrats want to ignore discordant facts.

Your ideaology deserves to be in a bathroom thread...

 

[iatrogenic]

Your ideaology deserves to be in a bathroom thread...

 

[Joe Fan]