Maxine 2020
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Actually, he was bragging. Not sure if there was sexual assault involved.
I did notice how all those women popped up just before the election and disappeared when Trump said he was going to sue them. I'm not saying Trump has clean hands, but I doubt any interns are leaving the White House with stained dresses, which is what happened with your hero, alleged husband of your heroine.
ProdigalHorn
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If it's the same quote I'm thinking about, he didn't actually say he had done it. (He also didn't condemn it, or say he WOULDN'T do it, but it's still not an admission of guilt.) As I remember it, he was talking about people who are famous and how they can interact with women groupies and he said "you just -----." That's not an admission, it's saying that people in that position can basically do whatever they want. It's kind of like me saying "beautiful people have it easy - get pulled over by the cops, you just flash a smile and bat your eyes and you get a warning." That doesn't mean I did any of those things. And in non-partisan contexts, we would all understand that.
OUBubba
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I moved on her, and I failed, I'll admit it
And I moved on her very heavily. In fact, I took her out furniture shopping. She wanted to get some furniture. I said, "I'll show you where they have some nice furniture." I took her out furniture—I moved on her like a *****. But I couldn't get there. And she was married. Then all of a sudden I see her, she's now got the big phony tits and everything. She's totally changed her look.
I don't even wait. And when you're a star, they let you do it, you can do anything... grab them by the *****.
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16 women have accused him of similar activities. It seems to be a pattern.
Cathy Heller met Trump at a Mother’s Day brunch in 1997. She tells us he forcibly tried to kiss her. “He took my hand, and grabbed me, and went for the lips.”
Jill Harth was getting a tour of Trump’s home in 1993 when, she tells us, he sexually assaulted her in his daughter Ivanka’s bedroom, “pushed me up against the wall, and had his hands all over me and tried to get up my dress again, and I had to physically say: ‘What are you doing? Stop it.’”
Temple Taggart was a 21-year-old competing in the Miss USA pageant in 1997 when she tells us Trump forcibly kissed her. “He kissed me directly on the lips. I thought, ‘Oh my God, gross.’ He was married to Marla Maples at the time. I think there were a few other girls that he kissed on the mouth. I was like ‘Wow, that’s inappropriate.’”
Cassandra Searles, a former Miss Washington, tells us that in 2013 Trump treated the contestants “like cattle” and “continually grabbed my *** and invited me to his hotel room.”
Jessica Leeds sat next to Trump on an airplane in the late 1970s, when she tells us he grabbed her breasts and tried to put his hand up her skirt. “He was like an octopus.” “His hands were everywhere.” “It was an assault.”
Kristin Anderson was at a Manhattan nightclub in the early 1990s when she tells us a man suddenly put his hand up her skirt, touching her genitals. She recognized Trump—someone she had never met. “He just stuck his hand up my skirt.”
Lisa Boyne attended a party in the mid-1990s with Trump, where she tells us he made women walk across a table in front of him. He “stuck his head right underneath their skirts” and commented on their genitals and whether they were wearing underwear.
Karena Virginia encountered Trump at the US Open in 1998 when she tells us Trump approached her at random, made sexual comments about her body, and groped her. “Then his hand touched the right side of my breast. I was in shock. I flinched. ‘Don’t you know who I am? Don’t you know who I am?’—that’s what he said to me.”
Mindy McGillivray was helping photograph a Ray Charles concert at Mar-a-Lago in 2003 when she says she was groped by Trump, “All of a sudden I felt a grab, a little nudge. I think it’s Ken’s camera bag, that was my first instinct. I turn around and there’s Donald. He sort of looked away quickly. I quickly turned back, facing Ray Charles, and I’m stunned.’’
Rachel Crooks was a 22-year-old receptionist in Trump Tower in 2005 when she introduced herself to Trump. She tells us he began kissing her cheeks and “kissed me directly on the mouth.” “It was so inappropriate…. I was so upset that he thought I was so insignificant that he could do that.”
Natasha Stoynoff was interviewing Trump for People magazine in 2005 when, she tells us, he closed the door to a room, with Melania waiting outside, and attacked her. “I turned around, and within seconds he was pushing me against the wall and forcing his tongue down my throat.”
Jessica Drake encountered Trump at a golf tournament in Lake Tahoe in the mid-2000s. She tells us that he “grabbed” her and two other women and kissed them “without asking permission” and then offered her $10,000 and use of his plane if she would come back to his room.
Ninni Laaksonen, a former Miss Finland, was preparing for a TV appearance in 2006 when she tells us Trump groped her, “He really grabbed my butt.” “I don’t think anybody saw it, but I flinched and thought, ‘What is happening?’”
Samantha Holvey, a former Miss North Carolina, tells us that in 2006 Trump came into the contestants’ dressing room and once had the contestants line up so he could step “in front of each girl and look you over from head to toe like we were just meat, we were just sexual objects, that we were not people.”
Tasha Dixon, a former Miss Arizona, tells us that in 2001 Trump “just came strolling right in” to their dressing room. “There was no second to put a robe on or any sort of clothing or anything. Some girls were topless. Others girls were naked.”
Trump in 2005 bragged to Howard Stern about invading his contestants’ dressing rooms, “You know, they’re standing there with no clothes. And you see these incredible-looking women. And so I sort of get away with things like that.”
Summer Zervos, a contestant on The Apprentice, met with Trump in 2007 about getting a job with the Trump Organization. She tells us he greeted her with an “open-mouthed” kiss and groped her breast. As she attempted to push him off, he “thrusted his genitals” against her.
And I moved on her very heavily. In fact, I took her out furniture shopping. She wanted to get some furniture. I said, "I'll show you where they have some nice furniture." I took her out furniture—I moved on her like a *****. But I couldn't get there. And she was married. Then all of a sudden I see her, she's now got the big phony tits and everything. She's totally changed her look.
I don't even wait. And when you're a star, they let you do it, you can do anything... grab them by the *****.
-------------
16 women have accused him of similar activities. It seems to be a pattern.
Cathy Heller met Trump at a Mother’s Day brunch in 1997. She tells us he forcibly tried to kiss her. “He took my hand, and grabbed me, and went for the lips.”
Jill Harth was getting a tour of Trump’s home in 1993 when, she tells us, he sexually assaulted her in his daughter Ivanka’s bedroom, “pushed me up against the wall, and had his hands all over me and tried to get up my dress again, and I had to physically say: ‘What are you doing? Stop it.’”
Temple Taggart was a 21-year-old competing in the Miss USA pageant in 1997 when she tells us Trump forcibly kissed her. “He kissed me directly on the lips. I thought, ‘Oh my God, gross.’ He was married to Marla Maples at the time. I think there were a few other girls that he kissed on the mouth. I was like ‘Wow, that’s inappropriate.’”
Cassandra Searles, a former Miss Washington, tells us that in 2013 Trump treated the contestants “like cattle” and “continually grabbed my *** and invited me to his hotel room.”
Jessica Leeds sat next to Trump on an airplane in the late 1970s, when she tells us he grabbed her breasts and tried to put his hand up her skirt. “He was like an octopus.” “His hands were everywhere.” “It was an assault.”
Kristin Anderson was at a Manhattan nightclub in the early 1990s when she tells us a man suddenly put his hand up her skirt, touching her genitals. She recognized Trump—someone she had never met. “He just stuck his hand up my skirt.”
Lisa Boyne attended a party in the mid-1990s with Trump, where she tells us he made women walk across a table in front of him. He “stuck his head right underneath their skirts” and commented on their genitals and whether they were wearing underwear.
Karena Virginia encountered Trump at the US Open in 1998 when she tells us Trump approached her at random, made sexual comments about her body, and groped her. “Then his hand touched the right side of my breast. I was in shock. I flinched. ‘Don’t you know who I am? Don’t you know who I am?’—that’s what he said to me.”
Mindy McGillivray was helping photograph a Ray Charles concert at Mar-a-Lago in 2003 when she says she was groped by Trump, “All of a sudden I felt a grab, a little nudge. I think it’s Ken’s camera bag, that was my first instinct. I turn around and there’s Donald. He sort of looked away quickly. I quickly turned back, facing Ray Charles, and I’m stunned.’’
Rachel Crooks was a 22-year-old receptionist in Trump Tower in 2005 when she introduced herself to Trump. She tells us he began kissing her cheeks and “kissed me directly on the mouth.” “It was so inappropriate…. I was so upset that he thought I was so insignificant that he could do that.”
Natasha Stoynoff was interviewing Trump for People magazine in 2005 when, she tells us, he closed the door to a room, with Melania waiting outside, and attacked her. “I turned around, and within seconds he was pushing me against the wall and forcing his tongue down my throat.”
Jessica Drake encountered Trump at a golf tournament in Lake Tahoe in the mid-2000s. She tells us that he “grabbed” her and two other women and kissed them “without asking permission” and then offered her $10,000 and use of his plane if she would come back to his room.
Ninni Laaksonen, a former Miss Finland, was preparing for a TV appearance in 2006 when she tells us Trump groped her, “He really grabbed my butt.” “I don’t think anybody saw it, but I flinched and thought, ‘What is happening?’”
Samantha Holvey, a former Miss North Carolina, tells us that in 2006 Trump came into the contestants’ dressing room and once had the contestants line up so he could step “in front of each girl and look you over from head to toe like we were just meat, we were just sexual objects, that we were not people.”
Tasha Dixon, a former Miss Arizona, tells us that in 2001 Trump “just came strolling right in” to their dressing room. “There was no second to put a robe on or any sort of clothing or anything. Some girls were topless. Others girls were naked.”
Trump in 2005 bragged to Howard Stern about invading his contestants’ dressing rooms, “You know, they’re standing there with no clothes. And you see these incredible-looking women. And so I sort of get away with things like that.”
Summer Zervos, a contestant on The Apprentice, met with Trump in 2007 about getting a job with the Trump Organization. She tells us he greeted her with an “open-mouthed” kiss and groped her breast. As she attempted to push him off, he “thrusted his genitals” against her.
I don't think there's any question but that Trump has sexually assaulted some women - at least as the term is defined nowadays. Did he do it to all of the women who have accused him? Probably not, but has he done it to some of them? Probably so.
The reason it doesn't seem to hurt Trump is that Democrats have turned into such crackpots in the last few years that people don't feel like they have an alternative and because the Democrats don't have clean hands. If you've been licking Bill Clinton's and Harvey Weinstein's nuts for 20 years, it's hard to complain about Donald Trump and have any credibility.
Same problem with Trump's romp in the sack with the porn star coupled with hush money. If you set the standard that not only is it OK to screw around on your wife with no consequences but that it's OK to commit a felony to cover it up, how can you seriously complain about your opponent's affair with hush money? If infidelity plus a felony is OK, then surely infidelity with some mere sleaze but no criminality is OK.
The reason it doesn't seem to hurt Trump is that Democrats have turned into such crackpots in the last few years that people don't feel like they have an alternative and because the Democrats don't have clean hands. If you've been licking Bill Clinton's and Harvey Weinstein's nuts for 20 years, it's hard to complain about Donald Trump and have any credibility.
Same problem with Trump's romp in the sack with the porn star coupled with hush money. If you set the standard that not only is it OK to screw around on your wife with no consequences but that it's OK to commit a felony to cover it up, how can you seriously complain about your opponent's affair with hush money? If infidelity plus a felony is OK, then surely infidelity with some mere sleaze but no criminality is OK.
You forgot the one where Trump had Russian hookers urinating on a bed.
ProdigalHorn
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Thanks for confirming what I had said. No one's arguing Trump isn't sleazy (or at least hasn't been at some point - I wouldn't doubt he still is.)
OUBubba
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I think that's fiction planted by someone wanting to taint the whole of the information.
Yep. Fiction planted by Steele that, along with Blumenthal and the DNC, and supported by lowlifes in the FBI and DOJ, tainted the whole sordid concoction. So much for the groups attempt at “insurance”.
OUBubba
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Planted by his contacts east of Germany. An effort to taint the whole of his research. Just a hunch.
ProdigalHorn
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Weird how all of your hunches are of the "nothing to see here, the Dems are clean" variety.
OUBubba
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I'm simply waiting for the GOP appointed investigator, Mueller, to do his job. I hope we live through the wait.
Clinton paid for it. Are you mad?
The crooked libs in the DOJ and FBI used it and many have now lost their careers because they did.
OUBubba
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I'm unmad. Some GOP candidate (Bush?) started it off and her people started picking up the tab once it was a two horse race. Even if it's crap, it's possibly not a bad investment. You never know as someone running a national campaign.
Which points out the need to verify the information, which the DOJ and FBI libs “forgot” to do before seeking to wiretap an American.
OUBubba
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The liberal bastions that are the Department of Justice and the Federal Bureau of Investigation. You guys come off like Bibi lashing out at the people investigating (and about to indict) him.
I read the Clinton’s did want it as part of the campaign. They were selling it to the press and the FBI.
You mean “The liberal ******** in the FBI and DOJ....”
The liberal, lying, sleazy sacks of **** in the far upper reaches of the FBI and the DOJ.
Well, if you want to be that specific, okay.
Joe Fan
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The first time Trump looked at her sideways, she would freak out
Maybe start swinging her purse at him
ProdigalHorn
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Maxine may have a serious challenger in 2020
Yes, that Joe
It's very encouraging to see that as bad as the dems are right now, they haven't yet thrown all-in with the utter freak show that a Harris-Booker ticket would be.
I don't think Biden could win a primary at this point. Older Democrats would back him, but the young, intersectional Left who are growing in prominence in the Party aren't going to be as quick to ignore his past politically incorrect statements or his personal opposition to abortion. Keep in mind that to the feminist Left, it's not enough to keep abortion legal. They don't want any shame associated with it.
And of course, he's white and has a penis. That's going to hurt him. His best bet would be to pull a Bruce Jenner.
And of course, he's white and has a penis. That's going to hurt him. His best bet would be to pull a Bruce Jenner.
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