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My greatest hope is the decision is not rushed. I remember everyone saying what a great can't miss coach TH was and I firmly believe just the smallest amount of vetting would have easily detected his personality flaws. I now wonder why LSU really backed away. Anway this basketball coach search is very tricky. I think the cream of the crop of high school players are going to stop with the one and done, leaving coaches with kids who really have little chance to make it to the NBA. I sense the great coaches for the past 20 years are about to retire and hopefully Texas can find the next great one.
 
SabreHorn said:
Having met him in a social setting (with people who knew him), I found him boorish, rude, not to mention he cheats his *** off. I don't want to be buddy-buddy with a coach. I want him to produce and win, but do it with class.

If we were to go that way, I would much rather have Pitino
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Fair enough. If you don’t mind me asking, I take it you work/worked for the university? If so, in what capacity? Enjoy the first-hand accounts
 
And that's perfectly fair. The attempts at belittling nicknames, comments like "good riddance to bad garbage" have been quite infrequent (I wish they had been 100% absent), and this is a positive testament to the fans who post here.
 
Sangre Naranjada said:
And that's perfectly fair. The attempts at belittling nicknames, comments like "good riddance to bad garbage" have been quite infrequent (I wish they had been 100% absent), and this is a positive testament to the fans who post here.
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Oh okay. Well, again, I only took those comments as to referring to the 6 years of lack of results, not about him as a person.
 
Omniscient.one said:
I take it you work/worked for the university?
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Never worked for The University, but volunteered when we were allowed to help in recruiting. I met with David when he was hired and told him I loved him, I loved his family, I would attend games and cheer, but I could never support him because of the way he got the job. I told him I knew he wasn't involved, but teh actions were unfathomable, even for the biggest shitheads in our alumni base.

I was, however, personally involved in:

1) The computer encoding scandal, which is sealed and there is a gag order some decades later.

2) The terrorist infiltration, which no one at The University was trusted to know about and still doesn't. Not even the Austin FBI office knew what was happening. Directed straight from DC.

3) The nameless 27, which I called a scandal because it would have destroyed Texas athletics and credibility.
 
SabreHorn said:
Never worked for The University, but volunteered when we were allowed to help in recruiting. I met with David when he was hired and told him I loved him, I loved his family, I would attend games and cheer, but I could never support him because of the way he got the job. I told him I knew he wasn't involved, but teh actions were unfathomable, even for the biggest shitheads in our alumni base.

I was, however, personally involved in:

1) The computer encoding scandal, which is sealed and there is a gag order some decades later.

2) The terrorist infiltration, which no one at The University was trusted to know about and still doesn't. Not even the Austin FBI office knew what was happening. Directed straight from DC.

3) The nameless 27, which I called a scandal because it would have destroyed Texas athletics and credibility.
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I can’t tell if you’re being sarcastic. Pretty creative if so. If not, you should write a memoir one day, under a pseudonym.
 
SabreHorn said:
2) The terrorist infiltration, which no one at The University was trusted to know about and still doesn't. Not even the Austin FBI office knew what was happening. Directed straight from DC.

3) The nameless 27, which I called a scandal because it would have destroyed Texas athletics and credibility.
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Participation in these events qualifies you for membership in our super-secret fraternity, M.O.S.S. The Mystic Order of Secret S***.
 
My top qualities for a basketball coach in order: no scandals (recruiting, academic, law), offensive minded, win, navigate BLM waters. Basically I would like a program similar to Dukes.
 
Hell, no. I was Herman's biggest critic. I was just pointing out that in college basketball, "clean" doesn't exist, hardly ever found in HS, and it even filters down to middle school with street agents, illegal transfers, etc.
 
Yep. Before street agent types became common in HS football, they were already all over the place in HS / HS-aged basketball. The Basketball equivalents of the "Footwork King", and summer camp/summer team gurus who acted as informal talent agents were a dime a dozen in basketball, even decades ago.
 
SabreHorn said:
Hell, no. I was Herman's biggest critic. I was just pointing out that in college basketball, "clean" doesn't exist, hardly ever found in HS, and it even filters down to middle school with street agents, illegal transfers, etc.
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I agree with the dirty comment. However, basketball is not important enough for me to give the university a black eye over. So that is why winning was third in my criteria. This is where I have given up on Texas ever winning a basketball national championship (a long time ago) If the cost of winning the championship is throwing away your integrity, then the cost is too high.
 
Not that it wasn't done by administrators before, but Billie Powers threw away our integrity by failing to keep his word to multiple people, Longhorns and others outside the program. His actions also cost The University millions and certain supporters at least $10 million.
 
SabreHorn said:
Not that it wasn't done by administrators before, but Billie Powers threw away our integrity by failing to keep his word to multiple people, Longhorns and others outside the program. His actions also cost The University millions and certain supporters at least $10 million.
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I hope it was not over basketball!
 
I don’t like the idea of Ivey. If Shaka was too inexperienced/didn’t have the resume, then what is Ivey. The whole “those that don’t study history are doomed to repeat it” logic. I’d say Beard then Beilein as a backup.
 
Omniscient.one said:
I don’t like the idea of Ivey. If Shaka was too inexperienced/didn’t have the resume, then what is Ivey. The whole “those that don’t study history are doomed to repeat it” logic. I’d say Beard then Beilein as a backup.
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Shaka was experienced; he just could not coach on the level Texas requires.

Kevin Durant is a better judge of coaching talent than most of us.
 
ViperHorn said:
Kevin Durant is a better judge of coaching talent than most of us.
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I loved Royal Ivey as a player, and he may be a great NBA coach, but that's different than being a great college coach. The most important question to ask him: Do you love recruiting? Because that's most of the job. Remember when Jerry Gray was hired as a defensive backs coach under Mack Brown? He lasted less than a month, not because he couldn't coach (he's had an admirable NFL coaching career), but because he was likely overwhelmed (or depressed) by the prospect of spending hundreds of lonely hours on the road in West Texas to visit recruits (I base this on comments Mack Brown once made at a coach's luncheon). Jerry loved the x's and o's part of coaching, which he's excelled at in the NFL, but not the recruiting part.
 
I remember Jerry Gray very well as the smartest football-smart player I ever knew at Texas. Everyone of us has our own opinion on his hiring. Perhaps many people that know Mack probably know the truth.

Mine is that recruiting had nothing to do with Jerry leaving.
 
giveemhell said:
I loved Royal Ivey as a player, and he may be a great NBA coach, but that's different than being a great college coach. The most important question to ask him: Do you love recruiting? Because that's most of the job. Remember when Jerry Gray was hired as a defensive backs coach under Mack Brown? He lasted less than a month, not because he couldn't coach (he's had an admirable NFL coaching career), but because he was likely overwhelmed (or depressed) by the prospect of spending hundreds of lonely hours on the road in West Texas to visit recruits (I base this on comments Mack Brown once made at a coach's luncheon). Jerry loved the x's and o's part of coaching, which he's excelled at in the NFL, but not the recruiting part.
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Don't you think Durant knows a little about recruiting? He would not have recommended RI if he didn't think RI was up to the recruiting process. CdC would not have spent a day with him if he didn't think he could handle the recruiting.
 
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