Large Hadron Collider

[Suckapuncha]

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[Seamus McBundy]

 

[Math Mudrat]

Very nice job of cutting and pasting from here and passing it off as your own:

The Link





I'll comment on the papers under their heading "Papers and books about global risk that consider collider risk:"

1. Something published in a Risk Assesment journal...hardly the place to comment on cutting edge physics.

2. A book, not peer-reviewed. Written by an astronomer, not a particle physicist.

3. Some crap written by a ******* lawyer, not a physicist.

4. "Interdisciplinary Science Reviews" Come on, give me a PRL or Phys Rev or even a NIM article, not some soft **** about ethics and, from his abstract, "responsibilities of the scientific and technological communities"

By your own admission "This paper does not discuss the physics about which we are especially concerned"

5. Again, not a physics journal at all.

6. Another ******** article about ethics, published on some website, and not written by a physicist.






That is my professional opinion as a physicist. Lord knows I've been wrong before though.

Dude, this is getting old. I tell you what, if I am wrong and the universe ends, I'll buy you a beer and we can laugh about this.

 

[Suckapuncha]

I cut and pasted from there because after googeling for a while i found that site and looked up those papers that were referenced and read through the material they listed. It was easier to just copy them than to type it all out.

The same as when doing any research and referencing. I find relevant material on the subject, then read about it.I'm not a physicist, so I have to get my references from other physicists. Because they happened to be from another site makes them less valid? After I read through their conclusions I looked up what they referenced to try to get a more detailed understanding of what i was reading. So, yes, those are my references, and some good reads btw.

Martin Rees, Our Final Hour for example. He is a good writer.

I didn't claim they were all physics papers, that's why I included the original text from the references stating that some were written by lawyers and astronomers etc. But they were all contributing to that particular issue.

Im not a physicist and don't claim to be. But from what I have found doing just the research in the last few months has shown me that there is plenty of material that cites creating micro black holes in the LHC is likely, which is what my original point was. You just kept dismissing it saying that there was ZERO chance of them being formed.

As i stated before, I personally don't think that the Universe is gonna end either. But that doesn't mean that scientists should just brush off the possible problems with what they are doing whenever they are pursuing knowledge. That is my issue. I just don't think all the necessary work has been done, and they are just really eager to get this thing fired up.

As far as the beer, either way I'll have one of those whenever.