Impeachment

[Seattle Husker]

Your stance is so absurd it's not even funny. The fact that you believe that Trump can't ask a foreign government to look into a "political opponent" is nuts. Are you really trying to tell me that every single person who's running for president (republican, independent, democrat) is off limits? The one thing that your media hasn't told you is that this scandal is bigger than just Biden. We have very good evidence that a DNC operative tried to get Ukraine's help against Trump in 2016. It's mentioned on one of the Ukraine embassy's transcripts.

So your stance is that a crime in plain view is OK as long as it's done in plain view?

 

[Mr. Deez]

So, an administration that is under impeachment investigation should resist transparency?

One man's transparency is another man's overbearing and politically-motivated investigation. Surely, you realize this. It is a very adversarial process. Let's put it this way. If I represented any President (and I'd never represent Trump), I would basically treat an impeachment the way I'd treat a lawsuit or criminal prosecution. I'd turn over what the law required, and I'd fight turning over what it didn't require.

On another topic I think this push by Republicans for a full House vote for an impeachment inquiry is for political reasons not legal. It's being done to put those moderate Dems on record who won Trump districts in 2018. There isn't any specific constitutional requirement for a full House vote to start an impeachment inquiry from what I can glean.

Yes, it is for political reason. There is no constitutional requirement that the full House vote to open an inquiry, and the courts would never intervene to force such a vote. The Supreme Court has weighed in impeachment and removal procedures, and they are very deferential to Congress on them. I do think she should have a vote, because that is what the House has generally done, but it isn't a requirement. Furthermore, I don't think the GOP should care too much. If the House chooses to formally impeach, there obviously will be a floor vote on that.

Should the Trump admin fight subpoenas a full house vote might carry weight in a court.

It shouldn't have any bearing on it. The impeachment inquiry vote isn't required to subpoena. After all, the House and House committees routinely issues subpoenas with no impeachment inquiries pending.

 

[mchammer]

The laundry list of cognitive dissonance.

 

[Joe Fan]

 

[mb227]

Meth and porn. That's all you guys in Oklahoma have going for you. lol

I would have volunteered that they HAVE casinos but then I remembered that they don't allow dice AND they charge you for alcohol.

 

[mb227]

color me shocked...

 

[LongestHorn]

 

[LongestHorn]

 

[Garmel]

So your stance is that a crime in plain view is OK as long as it's done in plain view?

Spin it all you want but there's no crime here. You're trying to create an impeachable offense for something a president has the authority to do.

 

[mb227]

Spin it all you want but there's no crime here. You're trying to create an impeachable offense for something a president has the authority to do.

They believe that stomping their feet and acting like a petulant little two-year old will eventually make something so...and just like a petulant little rug-rat, they ALSO don't care if they have to tell a lot of fibs to try and get their way.

 

[Seattle Husker]

They believe that stomping their feet and acting like a petulant little two-year old will eventually make something so...and just like a petulant little rug-rat, they ALSO don't care if they have to tell a lot of fibs to try and get their way.

Wait...you JUST described Donald J. Trump. Damn...I better rethink my support for an impeachment inquiry.

 

[Garmel]

Wait...you JUST described Donald J. Trump. Damn...I better rethink my support for an impeachment inquiry.

No, I'm pretty sure it's the democrats who have have been stomping their feet like two year olds. They've been doing this since day one of Trump's presidency by trying to find a reason to start an impeachment. At least House member Al Green was honest in his statement on what the dems are trying to pull. Rep. Al Green: "I'm Concerned If We Don't Impeach This President, He Will Get Re-Elected"

 

[LongestHorn]

Former George W. Bush chief of staff endorses Trump impeachment inquiry

 

[Seattle Husker]

No, I'm pretty sure it's the democrats who have have been stomping their feet like two year olds. They've been doing this since day one of Trump's presidency by trying to find a reason to start an impeachment. At least House member Al Green was honest in his statement on what the dems are trying to pull. Rep. Al Green: "I'm Concerned If We Don't Impeach This President, He Will Get Re-Elected"

Ok. Im convinced Trump doesn't act like a "petulant little two-year old...putulant rug rat...tell a lot of fibs to get [his] way."

Seriously? On what planet does Trump's name calling, temper tantrums and voluminous lies not fit into that definition?

 

[LongestHorn]

They made a floating Trump baby, for God’s sake.

 

[Garmel]

Ok. Im convinced Trump doesn't act like a "petulant little two-year old...putulant rug rat...tell a lot of fibs to get [his] way."

Seriously? On what planet does Trump's name calling, temper tantrums and voluminous lies not fit into that definition?

Dude, you're whole party has had one big temper tantrum since he's become president. The name calling by Trump is immature at times but have you seen the constant name calling by you libs toward Trump? The fact that you're not put off by Schiff's lies and the whole whistleblower fiasco tells me you're not concerned with lies and deception. Trump is an amateur compared to your party.

 

[LongestHorn]

 

[Garmel]

Rep. Zeldin, who was there for Volker's testimony, is pissed that the democrats haven't released all of Volker's testimony because it vindicates Trump. Please listen to what Zeldin says about some of the things Volker said under oath.

 

[I35]

Dude, you're whole party has had one big temper tantrum since he's become president. The name calling by Trump is immature at times but have you seen the constant name calling by you libs toward Trump? The fact that you're not put off by Schiff's lies and the whole whistleblower fiasco tells me you're not concerned with lies and deception. Trump is an amateur compared to your party.

This is what’s happening because of how far extreme the left has gone.

 

[nashhorn]

Goody has had it with the fiasco that is Washington. I’m surprised he agreed on any condition.

 

[Seattle Husker]

This is what’s happening because of how far extreme the left has gone.

Oan? Seriously? One sec, I'm sure Motherjones or Daily Kos has a rebuttal. /s

 

[Seattle Husker]

Dude, you're whole party has had one big temper tantrum since he's become president. The name calling by Trump is immature at times but have you seen the constant name calling by you libs toward Trump? The fact that you're not put off by Schiff's lies and the whole whistleblower fiasco tells me you're not concerned with lies and deception. Trump is an amateur compared to your party.

Trump didn't change when he became POTUS. He's always been a petulant child. It was obvious during the campaign and long before.

On Schiff, you're putting words in my mouth as usual. I've never voiced support for him and openly stated Cummings should be in the lead role.

On another note, I don't claim the Democrats any more than @Monahorns claims the Republicans.

 

[Garmel]

Trump didn't change when he became POTUS. He's always been a petulant child. It was obvious during the campaign and long before.

On Schiff, you're putting words in my mouth as usual. I've never voiced support for him and openly stated Cummings should be in the lead role.

On another note, I don't claim the Democrats any more than @Monahorns claims the Republicans.

A petulant child is a group of people who can't accept the results of the 2016 election and will do anything to win 2020. Al Green was right.

Schiff is the Chair of the House Intelligence Committee. You might not have voiced support for him but he's running this clown show along with Pelosi. The fact that you have not condemned him says a lot. Of course, some might say you operate in a similar fashion here as Schiff does in congress.

 

[Mr. Deez]

Rep. Zeldin, who was there for Volker's testimony, is pissed that the democrats haven't released all of Volker's testimony because it vindicates Trump. Please listen to what Zeldin says about some of the things Volker said under oath.

The problem is that his description is self-serving. Of course, so are the selective texts that Schiff chose to release. It's very hard to know what's really going on.

 

[I35]

Oan? Seriously? One sec, I'm sure Motherjones or Daily Kos has a rebuttal. /s

You mean the people at mother jones and Daily Kos use to be republican?

 

[Mr. Deez]

Hard to believe Barbara Jordan actually said this and harder to believe that Hillary Clinton actually thinks it's a smart thing to say.

 

[horninchicago]

Hard to believe Barbara Jordan actually said this and harder to believe that Hillary Clinton actually thinks it's a smart thing to say.

Why? She also thinks it's smart to call for abolishing the Electoral College and that it's smart to say Trump is an illegitimate President, and on and on and on....

As much as some on here are quick to say that Trump says stupid things why not just call a spade a spade and say that Hillary says stupid things constantly?

 

[horninchicago]

And I'm sure Shrillary felt the same way when her "husband" was being impeached.

 

[Horn6721]

Barbara was referencing Nixon. I think most agree with her on this.
I am waiting for Hillary to use Barbara's public statements on illegal immigrants.

 

[Mr. Deez]

Barbara was referencing Nixon. I think most agree with her on this.

That's insane. Nixon did a terrible thing, but the idea of scrapping the entire Constitution just to ensure he gets punished is lunacy.

I am waiting for Hillary to use Barbara's public statements on illegal immigrants.

Not gonna happen.