'I Feel Duped on Climate Change'

[BrntOrngStmpeDe]

The sun, natural cycles, bad measurement, faulty science....all are viable counterpoints to Climate Change. My biggest problem (with both sides) is that they both try to shut down the debate. GOP pol's have made up their mind and do nothing but shut down climate change activists. Dem's have made up their mind and do nothing but shut down dissent. Like most things the science debate has become to embroiled in politics. If we (the GOP) are so confident the science supports our conclusion then put our 5 best scientists on the stage with their 5 best and let's have a full science debate.

 

[Gylcomer]

The Green Deal in the United States was always the liberals plan to screw the oil companies and the red states.

The Green Deal In Deutschland, or “Energie Gewende, “ was Merkel’s idea to cement ties with Russia in order to continue buying cheap Russian Gas.

The United States warned Deutschland not to buy Russian gas, beginning with the Eisenhower administration.

Now that Deutschland and the EU have electric energy prices three times what we pay in the United States, Europe has become desperate and wants to raise United States energy prices to even the playing field. With the help of the Biden they almost succeeded.

The EU recently announced that natural gas is a green fuel. So why was Biden against it? Because the blue states are failing and want a piece of the energy business no matter the feasibility.

 

[Monahorns]

The sun, natural cycles, bad measurement, faulty science....all are viable counterpoints to Climate Change. My biggest problem (with both sides) is that they both try to shut down the debate. GOP pol's have made up their mind and do nothing but shut down climate change activists. Dem's have made up their mind and do nothing but shut down dissent. Like most things the science debate has become to embroiled in politics. If we (the GOP) are so confident the science supports our conclusion then put our 5 best scientists on the stage with their 5 best and let's have a full science debate.

I'm for that. Some of the best opponents of the climate change narrative are on the political Left. Michael Schellenberger, Patrick Moore (founded Greenpeace), and Steve Koonin (Obama's Under Secretary For Science). There are many others that are neutral and on the Right including many Global Climate Scientists.

The problem is that the "experts" who claim climate change catastrophe is coming REFUSE to debate. They don't want to get exposed.

It is clearly climate alarmists and those on the Left who shut down debate and discussion. Not those on the Right. The Left cancels those on the Right. They get scientists kicked out of important appointments, etc.

 

[mb227]

The sun, natural cycles, bad measurement, faulty science....all are viable counterpoints to Climate Change. My biggest problem (with both sides) is that they both try to shut down the debate. GOP pol's have made up their mind and do nothing but shut down climate change activists. Dem's have made up their mind and do nothing but shut down dissent. Like most things the science debate has become to embroiled in politics. If we (the GOP) are so confident the science supports our conclusion then put our 5 best scientists on the stage with their 5 best and let's have a full science debate.

 

[mchammer]

 

[VYFan]

So you are saying there’s not still a chance

 

[BrntOrngStmpeDe]

This is a valid and incredibly strong counterpoint to climate change claims.

If they are so sure about the tipping point and the inevitable long game, why are they almost always wrong about the short game.

However, this sort of zealotry by itself does not disprove climate change. It really points more to the failings of MSM than it does to CC being wrong.

Also, the general nature of these types of articles is not "the world will be gone in 10 years" but rather "We will have reached an irreversible tipping point". Both are inaccurate, IMO, but taking research and intentionally taking it of context to refute it, is just as bad as intentionally hyperbolizing the most extreme outcome.

 

[mchammer]

Global warming has no impact on crops:

 

[BrntOrngStmpeDe]

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