'I Feel Duped on Climate Change'

[mchammer]

Oh, and data point...one of the reasons vehicles like the first and second generation Miata put the battery in the trunk was to maintain a 50/50 balance.

The battery lasts about 7 years since it doesn’t get hot.

 

[mchammer]

 

[Mr. Deez]

The battery lasts about 7 years since it doesn’t get hot.

I think there's something to having it in the back. My first car was a 1985 Ford Tempo, and it had a diesel engine - rare, but it was incredibly reliable and got insane gas mileage. It had a big battery that was in the trunk of the car. In 1998, when the car had over 300,000 miles on it, the battery died. That battery said Ford on it.

 

[mb227]

The battery lasts about 7 years since it doesn’t get hot.

Being an AGM from the factory also helped many of us get a LOT more than seven years out of them. But, being in the trunk ALSO made it a 50/50 balance...and for DRIVERS, that matters.

 

[mchammer]

Being an AGM from the factory also helped many of us get a LOT more than seven years out of them. But, being in the trunk ALSO made it a 50/50 balance...and for DRIVERS, that matters.

I was being conservative. My Miata is 21 years old and I installed the 3rd battery (including the original) last year. So, 10 years on average for the first 2.

 

[BrntOrngStmpeDe]

There is oil all over the world and the known reserves are growing. We don't go to Saudi Arabia for oil. We buy it on a global market. The big issue is when OPEC decides to restrict oil production and thereby increases prices. But the bigger issue is refining capacity in the US. Build out refining capacity in the US and we are less dependent on fuels from outside the US.

There are 100 different ways to skin the cat on this one including making nuclear powered vehicles for the military. There are multiple feed stocks out there that we don't even use today. That is where fuel research should be focused.

ok, so we don't go directly to saudi and buy just their oil but we all know who really drives the bus in the oil market. almost all of the major oil producers are bad actors. maybe the battery players will follow the same path but currently the folks with a lot of raw battery material are generally better than the folks with a lot of oil. we already have the largest refining capacity in the world for petroleum. we recognized the strategic aspect of that decision a long time ago. we should have also used the same approach to battery element refining but we abdicated that to the Chinese and now they control most of it. we could take that mantle away from them if we wanted.

 

[Horn6721]

Damn I miss the days when the USA was the top producer and had a bigger seat at table
Instead of groveling

 

[Monahorns]

ok, so we don't go directly to saudi and buy just their oil but we all know who really drives the bus in the oil market. almost all of the major oil producers are bad actors.

OPEC has some level of control of prices through supply restriction. But that effect is decreasing. Further, Saudi Arabia is an ally. They are bad guys, but they are bad guys that we have a relationship with. I guarantee any of these bad actors will sell oil to whoever wants to buy it. That is true unless the US is specifically belligerent to them.

maybe the battery players will follow the same path but currently the folks with a lot of raw battery material are generally better than the folks with a lot of oil.

I don't know how you can say this. China basically controls the supply of the RMs unilaterally. Much more so than petroleum.

we already have the largest refining capacity in the world for petroleum. we recognized the strategic aspect of that decision a long time ago. we should have also used the same approach to battery element refining but we abdicated that to the Chinese and now they control most of it. we could take that mantle away from them if we wanted.

US refining capacity regardless of any absolute value is deficient. I have heard experts say as much. Thinking that the US is going to build factories that pose more environmental issues than even refineries is not rational. Maybe you statement was true though. IF, but IF isn't even close to actual right now.

 

[mchammer]

you're missing my larger point. the GOP had the Senate from 2015-2021 and the House from 2011-2019 and the POTUS from 2016-2020. There are 13 federal agencies that routinely weigh in on Climate Science. Why the heck didn't the GOP use time in power to ensure that both sides of the climate debate were represented? Why didn't they ensure that scientific papers presenting counter points saw the front row? If the CC science is such utter junk, it should have been easy to present the counter points from an authoritative source while the GOP held all three political pulpits.

Good stuff in here about the global warming debate previously mentioned:

Overview of the Koonin-Dessler Debate – Watts Up With That?

 

[mb227]

I was being conservative. My Miata is 21 years old and I installed the 3rd battery (including the original) last year. So, 10 years on average for the first 2.

You still have a youngun'

I've got one of the numbered '91s. Also on its third battery...

 

[lkainer]

Good info on climate change from 1992

 

[nashhorn]

Calling AOC and cohorts.
Good man that Paul Harvey. He always knew “the rest of the story” and liked to pass on the info.

 

[Vol Horn 4 Life]

Mercedes EV achieves 747 miles on a single charge. little by little that "range anxiety" boogeyman is losing its grip.

Mercedes Vision EQXX Sets an All-electric Distance Record of 747 Miles. | by slashdotted | Jun, 2022 | DataDrivenInvestor

Interesting, the article I read says the 2023 model can go up to 620 miles between charges. That's a massive variance.

 

[mchammer]

What happened to the hottest summer EVAH?!?

 

[mchammer]

You mean it doesn’t stay hot until mid-October?

 

[Mr. Deez]

What happened to the hottest summer EVAH?!?

It's pretty pleasant, but it's still warmer than usual. Furthermore, we went through a pretty bad drought that didn't really start to subside until yesterday, when it rained most of the day. Most of the land that's usually green is dried out and brown. Several trees are starting to lose their leaves, not because the weather is changing but because they're drying out.

Also, if you're looking for a city to bust my balls with, London isn't your best choice. Cambridge or Norwich are quite a bit closer.

 

[Horn6721]

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I took mc's point to be all the alarmists in the EU predicting calamity from the heat.
But if it was a different reason I am ok with that too

 

[Monahorns]

Texas Republicans still not strengthening our grid. Time to get actual conservatives in there to return us to oil, gas, coal and nuclear.

 

[mb227]

Texas Republicans still not strengthening our grid. Time to get actual conservatives in there to return us to oil, gas, coal and nuclear.

Part of the problem with nuclear is that SouthTexas punted on their permit many years ago. We would need the feds to approve a new one. SlowJoe won't allow that to occur.

As to coal...I firmly say we need to fire up all those mothballed generator units that Obummer demanded be taken off-line, and get the coal burning now that the EPA has been declared to have over-reached. Let's use a SCOTUS decision to our benefit.

 

[mchammer]

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I took mc's point to be all the alarmists in the EU predicting calamity from the heat.
But if it was a different reason I am ok with that too

Your reasoning is correct. The oppressive heat in England must have put Deez on edge a little bit. I’ll allow it.

 

[guy4321]

Part of the problem with nuclear is that SouthTexas punted on their permit many years ago. We would need the feds to approve a new one. SlowJoe won't allow that to occur.

As to coal...I firmly say we need to fire up all those mothballed generator units that Obummer demanded be taken off-line, and get the coal burning now that the EPA has been declared to have over-reached. Let's use a SCOTUS decision to our benefit.

Get that nuclear permit ready for 2024 when SlowJoe gets replaced.

 

[Mr. Deez]

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I took mc's point to be all the alarmists in the EU predicting calamity from the heat.
But if it was a different reason I am ok with that too

That's his point - to a point. Lol. He also likes to give me **** because I complained about the heat. He has made that pretty clear. Keep in mind that he led with London, which isn't in the EU and isn't very representative of most of Europe in its weather. He tossed in Berlin afterwards so it would be less obvious and to give him some plausible deniability.

 

[Horn6721]

My error in using EU. Should have not been lazy. I meant Europe.
After what we went through Europe's whining looked silly.

 

[Mr. Deez]

After what we went through Europe's whining looked silly.

What did you go through?

 

[Mr. Deez]

Seems like a pricy repair to have to do at 70K miles.

 

[mchammer]

 

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[mb227]

And to think people still wonder why I don't want any of those connected pieces of crap in my home...

 

[Horn6721]

This is no surprise. Is it?
"PARIS (AP) — France’s minister for energy transition said Friday that French electricity giant EDF has committed to restart all its nuclear reactors by this winter to help the country through the broad energy crisis aggravated by the war in Ukraine."
Minister: All French nuclear reactors to restart by winter