How does Trump defeat Hillary?

Yep, it fits with the public perceptions. Crooked Donald or Double Dealing Donald would fit pretty good too if you look at how Trump has treated investors, creditors, spouses and competitors over the years.
But, unlike #Shillary, none of Trump's perceived misdeeds or dealing from the weeds falls in the category of federal felony associated with the death of persons or potential breach of computer security guidelines. Bad-faith business dealings do not place lives in jeopardy or suggest that the Constitution and CFR are something to simply use as a substitute for toilet paper.
 
True mb227, Trump having never served in elected or appointed government office, can truthfully say he's never done anything unethical in a governmental capacity.
 
Whether business dealing are good or bad ( different from legal or illegal) depends on which side of the deal one is. Has Trump or a Trump company been accused of bribery by competitors? I tried to find but only found 2 firms accused of bribery that Trump became associated with. Accusations ? Were those 2 firms convicted?

Investors? What idiot would think every investment is guaranteed to be successful?
In 40 yrs of "making deals" it would be naïve to think there would not be failures and disgruntled competitors and investors.
What about Trump's former wives?


Trump is not my first choice but he is the choice now
and Hillary is NO choice.
I do admit to being surprised at how generous Trump has been over the years . many times to ordinary people needing a hand.
I am sure he is a tough arrogant bully in business deals and of course
some will fail.
But as mb points out those are not equivalent issues.
 

They got their education in the saying that is oft-attributed to P. T. Barnum...hence they got some education for their money.

And yes, I realize that it and any other weekend real-estate seminar is basically a scam designed to separate those looking for a free lunch from their money. Have not taken the time to look at any of the disclaimers associated with the program, but am guessing there is something about past experiences in real estate are not valid predictors for continued market success or something similar...
 
Mostly the scam was that the instructors were supposedly sharp, experienced, successful real estate investors "hand picked" by Donald Trump. In truth, most had never met Trump and and they ended up more the quality you might get at say a refresher course to renew a real estate license.
 
Mostly the scam was that the instructors were supposedly sharp, experienced, successful real estate investors "hand picked" by Donald Trump. In truth, most had never met Trump and and they ended up more the quality you might get at say a refresher course to renew a real estate license.
Wow. That's definitely like breaking classified material laws...

And then trying to cover it up.


Are these plaintiffs suing the Olive Garden because they thought it was an Italian restaurant too?
 
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But back to the original question -- What if Bernie runs as a Green Party candidate?
(I would send him some campaign money)
I could see him peeling off something like what Perot got (which gave us the Clintons to begin with, i.e., cycle of life, or maybe 'time is flat')

Go Green Bernie
 
Wow. That's definitely like breaking classified material laws...

And then trying to cover it up.


Are these plaintiffs suing the Olive Garden because they thought it was an Italian restaurant too?
Speaking of which... I am heading to Italy with Mrs. Sangre next month for our 25th anniversary and of course we want some good food while we are there. But damned if I can find even one Olive Garden or Johnny Carino's in any of the places we will be staying. Can any of you guys help?
 
Speaking of which... I am heading to Italy with Mrs. Sangre next month for our 25th anniversary and of course we want some good food while we are there. But damned if I can find even one Olive Garden or Johnny Carino's in any of the places we will be staying. Can any of you guys help?

Where in Italy?
 
Three nights in Piedmont at the Marchesi Incisa
Three nights in Valpolicella at Fumanelli
Three nights in Tuscany at Casolare Bucciano
Three more nights in Tuscany at Ortaglia

All in agriturismos/vineyard houses owned by winemaker friends of mine. Hard to go wrong!

There is absolutely no chance of this going wrong. None. Enjoy the beautiful scenery, the legendary food, and the superb wine. Save room for gelato, and make sure to have some good cheese. I think Italian cheese is underrated, because it's overshadowed by the French, Dutch, and Swiss cheeses. However, it's superb. Since moving to Europe, I've developed my own rule on cheese - the nastier a cheese smells, the better it tastes. If you come across some cheese that smells like Mike Tyson's nutsack after going 15 rounds, bite right into that stuff. It'll be spectacular.
 
One of my favorite experiences from my last trip to Italy (business) was eating freshly dug up white truffle shaved onto a just-fried egg. Later in the meal a humongous wheel of Parmaggiano Reggiano was cut into and served along with prosciutto crudo sliced right off the leg for us. They treat you well, no doubt. I am unbelievably excited to take Mrs. Sangre on her first Italian excursion.

I understand what you mean about the cheeses, but I cannot say I am terribly fond of the mental image conjured by your analogy.
 
One of my favorite experiences from my last trip to Italy (business) was eating freshly dug up white truffle shaved onto a just-fried egg. Later in the meal a humongous wheel of Parmaggiano Reggiano was cut into and served along with prosciutto crudo sliced right off the leg for us. They treat you well, no doubt. I am unbelievably excited to take Mrs. Sangre on her first Italian excursion.

That sounds awesome. As for the wife, I took Mrs. Deez to Italy (Venice, Bolzano, Orvieto, Rome, Naples, and Pompeii) five years ago, and I scored some serious husband points. However, I think your strategy in choosing locations is even better. This should buy you 20 years of stardom.

I understand what you mean about the cheeses, but I cannot say I am terribly fond of the mental image conjured by your analogy.

Understandable, but if you can stomach that image (and you'll know it when you smell it), you'll be rewarded for trying it. I was in the Alsace (France) last year and tried a Munster cheese that literally smelled like rotting garbage - one of the most offensive odors I've ever smelled in my life, and that stuff tasted amazing.
 
However, I think your strategy in choosing locations is even better.
Well, it is just one of the perks of the job. I sell a lot of wine, and get to know some pretty cool winemakers in the process, many of them being Italians. They come to my house and eat Lockhart Barbecue - I go to their house and score decade worth of husband points! Sounds like a good deal to me!
 
My wife loves to travel with me the few times per year I travel International. While I sit in meetings all day she does her own sight seeing. Hopefully this is a pleasure and no business trip for you Sangre!
 
My wife loves to travel with me the few times per year I travel International. While I sit in meetings all day she does her own sight seeing. Hopefully this is a pleasure and no business trip for you Sangre!
Pure pleasure this time (25th anniversary), though when I have gone on "business", the business is wine buying, so that's pretty pleasurable in its own right.
 
Pure pleasure this time (25th anniversary), though when I have gone on "business", the business is wine buying, so that's pretty pleasurable in its own right.

And they pay you to do this? I thought my wife had the best gig in the world, but you might have her beat.
 

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