Horns vs TCU Game Thread

[WorsterMan]

Horns may lose last 3 conf games Bailor, frogs, ku.... will not favor Terry's case for making him HC.

 

[old65horn]

With that logic, I guess Coach Schaefer needs to go

Horrible logic Vic was down 2 starters. He does not start most games down double digits and saving his time outs till next season. Vic’s teams play with energy. Vic uses his time outs to make adjustments to stop runs, to make adjustments during play.

i do not agree with your conflation.

 

[old65horn]

Horns may lose last 3 conf games Bailor, frogs, ku.... will not favor Terry's case for making him HC.

That ship should have already sailed.

 

[texfiter]

And just like that, Kansas enjoy your Big 12 crown.

 

[old65horn]

We got killed on the boards 28-46

TCU HAD 22 TOs and still won.

that tells you what a poor effort we had offensively.

 

[sblazer]

Rebounds was the obvious glaring discrepancy. and... seems like every game Carr can't hit a 3(and keeps shooting them, surprise) we lose. Capt obvious I know.:/

 

[Vol Horn 4 Life]

This team is falling apart. The only thing keeping us in these games is our talent.

 

[LonghornCatholic]

@LonghornCatholic you missed a "decent" 2nd half comeback attempt.

However, too many missed free throws and sloppy play. 22 turnovers will kill ya' . Hole was 16 points at one time...

75-73 is the final.

Yeah I saw the score this morning. Looks like they put forth a good effort finally. Not sure what to make of this team…same mistakes and patterns that should have long been corrected, but definitely a talented bunch. Not sure though you can sugar coat 1-4, or whatever we are, the last few games.

 

[Horns11]

The rebounding difference is atrocious. We still don't have any bangers, and with the state of the transfer portal, I'm not sure we'll have any next year either. That means... like... actually recruit one? Or two?

 

[Phil Elliott]

Good thing it's only basketball.

 

[FWHORN]

Back to back poor performances after what was one of most impressive performances of the year against Iowa State. Terry did himself no favors in the HC search and the team probably has blown a shot at a 2 seed absent winning Saturday and winning the Big XII tourny, for now Texas needs to halt this slide so they dont fall past a 3 seed slot.

 

[caryhorn]

I'm just tired of seeing banked 3's and opponents having career days against us every game. Gets old.

We are all weary of this sort of thing. What I see though, is a team that played defense for Beard for 40 minutes, but is not doing it for Terry. I don't remember a single game, much less 4 or 5, where we got behind double digits and had to frenetically come from behind against teams with far less talent.

Terry's mojo with the team is flagging. the team we had during the first 10 games is not the team hitting the floor now. Terry is not Beard. Hard to admit that he just can't get the level of play out of this bunch. But it's obvious he isn't getting it.

 

[old65horn]

Maybe it's the water on campus. I'm just tired of seeing banked 3's and opponents having career days against us every game. Gets old.

What gets old for me is falling behind double digits in the first half due to lack of energy, without a Time out called to stop the run or make adjustments.. the team with energy gets 50 50 balls and makes banked 3s. The team without energy throws up bricks as the play clock winds down and falls behind double digits.

 

[old65horn]

22 turnovers will kill ya' . Hole was 16 points at one time...

Apparently not. TCU had 22 TOS. We had 11.

 

[2003TexasGrad]

Poop.

 

[VulcanHorn]

We are all weary of this sort of thing. What I see though, is a team that played defense for Beard for 40 minutes, but is not doing it for Terry. I don't remember a single game, much less 4 or 5, where we got behind double digits and had to frenetically come from behind against teams with far less talent.

Terry's mojo with the team is flagging. the team we had during the first 10 games is not the team hitting the floor now. Terry is not Beard. Hard to admit that he just can't get the level of play out of this bunch. But it's obvious he isn't getting it.

I must admit, I've been on the Terry bandwagon all this time. But after the TCU game, I realized I was only hoping to see Terry succeed just like I was hoping Charlie Strong could get the job done. Both good guys. But I guess it just takes me a while to see through that and see the results for what they are. Just not cutting it.

 

[LHABSOB]

I must admit, I've been on the Terry bandwagon all this time. But after the TCU game, I realized I was only hoping to see Terry succeed just like I was hoping Charlie Strong could get the job done. Both good guys. But I guess it just takes me a while to see through that and see the results for what they are. Just not cutting it.

Similar feelings for me but I think my hopes were for the success of the team vs anything personal for Terry. I have felt all along that if the results were delivered Terry would be rewarded. There is still a slim hope for that in my mind with a deep tournament run, i.e- Great 8. But recent results aren't trending that way and I have full trust in CDC to make the right decisions and bring the right coach here if it isn't Terry.

 

[NJlonghorn]

We got killed on the boards 28-46

Rebounds was the obvious glaring discrepancy.

The rebounding difference is atrocious.

This is by far the team's biggest (only?) problem. Just like last game, we were killed by a huge discrepancy in both overall rebounds and offensive rebounds. It's hard to win when you get repeated stops, only to give the other team another shot.

What I see though, is a team that played defense for Beard for 40 minutes, but is not doing it for Terry.

Defense was not the problem, and hasn't been in most of our games. We forced 22 turnovers and contested a large majority of TCU's shots.

The reason we gave up so many points boils down to poor rebounding. I just went through the box score, and unless I miscounted, we gave us 15 points on second chances, but scored only 4.

Apparently not. TCU had 22 TOS. We had 11.

This is our biggest strength. We play VERY good defense and force a ton of turnovers. When opponents get easy baskets (other than off of an offensive rebound), it is usually because we took a gamble at a steal/trap. Terry should be commended for encouraging the team to take those risks. 22 steals don't come out nowhere. And they certainly aren't a product of lackadaisical effort.

that tells you what a poor effort we had offensively.

TCU has played 11 games against ranked opponents this year. In those games, the third and 4th highest points they have given up are the 79 and 73 we scored in our two games. Given that we are predominantly a defensive team, this is a more-than-adequate level of offensive production. Our problem is NOT a lack of scoring -- it all comes down to rebounding.

 

[old65horn]

This is our biggest strength

it is a strength if those turnovers result into easy points. Against TCU, they did not.

 

[old65horn]

This is by far the team's biggest (only?)

That was not true in the first TCU game where we out rebounded TCU. What accounts for the complete turn around? I would say that the teams biggest problem is lack of energy,

Rebounding is like a 50-50 loose ball, the team with energy gets the loose ball and rebound.

the statistic do not support your theory that rebounding is the teams biggest problem. Look at rebounds for the last several games.

TCU L 48-28
BU L 37-25
ISU W 29-33
OU W 36-33
TTU L 41-29
WV W 35-38
KU L 34-33
KSU 31-30
TTU W 31-40
TCU W 33-35

this teams problem is lack of urgency and effort in a lot of games which results in double digit 1st half deficients and lack of solid defense. Beard would not have tolerated this lack of effort.

 

[bystander]

Carr's stat line the last two game:

This is a senior. So many times we see seniors from other teams go off on us because they've had that long to get good. I don't understand the poor shooting.

 

[caryhorn]

scoring -- it all comes down to rebounding.

NJ I agree that our bigs have not gotten it done on the boards. I put responsibility on the coaching staff. A great rebounder doesn’t have to be a 7+ foot guy.
For example, Karl Malone, Moses Malone and Dennis Rodman are among the greatest rebounder’s of all time. None were7 footers.They all had a nasty, aggressive attitude going after rebounds. They also knew how to fight for position to block out.

Horns have athletic guys with enough height. It’s on the coaches to get them aggressive and coach them to fight for position. Beard’s teams were super aggressive and fighters . This team needs someone to inject it with aggressiveness on the boards.