horns vs rice 2023

old65horn said:
yes, but all I see is bitching about the long passes. I have not seen any comments on the facts that QE was:

* 19-30 for 260 yards.
* 0 (zero) interceptions.
* Ran for 2 (two) big 1st downs on 3rd and long.
* 3 (three) TD passes
* 1 (one) TD run.
without any credit for the above, One poster stated that he personalty watch 15 BETTER QB's yesterday.

Unless QE had been 30-30, many posters seemed ready to trash QE.
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I posted this...

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The hype was off the chart this preseason. I don't buy hype anymore. I've heard it for the last 15 years or so. What I witnessed yesterday was the same old, same old. But it's just one game, and the first one of the season at that. Season begins next Saturday.
 
longhornlegend said:
I just see no value to his motion. Any help here?
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Just imagine what can be done. I have seen that motion guy
a) stop under center for the equivalent of a qb sneak
b) receive an immediate toss from the qb, acting as a type of quick reverse
c) block the DE or OLB on off tackle runs
d) act as a decoy that can be safely ignored until he can't
 
Damn guys! It was going to be Rice a year ago or so when the schedule was set. Our D couldn’t imaginably done much better. Edge pressure not seen since the ‘70s. Ant was a little lost a couple of times but made up the most part with athletcism.
A game against a fair college opponent is worth 40 practices to meld the OL to a unit. A couple of guards had ole blocks but overall not bad for game 1.
I still hate theses momentum sapping long shots on first down, but I suppose we better practice them when possible.
Not a rose parade, but serviceable first game.
 
Sark is going to have to call plays that Quin can execute. Starting the game throwing bombs is not it. Get him comfortable throwing longer and longer in the intermediate range. Only throw deep a time or two to make the defense think about it.

The interesting thing was you can tell Quinn is making progress. Last year he would overthrow the receiver. Yesterday he was putting air under the ball so that didn't happen. He even connected on 2-3. But they were out of bounds. Worthy looks way better tracking the ball.
 
longhornlegend said:
Our D looked impressive but again it was Rice. They had no run game and no receivers so how could we not look good. I like that we played 30 players on d. We will need the depth as the season goes on and they all look capable. Someone better teach them gap integrity as a running qb will gash our d which we will see next week. Again, its Rice but the D was solid.
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You just cannot stand to give Coach K a simple and straightforward compliment, can you?
 
Everyone just needs to chill, take a few deep breaths, and relax since we all know
“WINNING IS HARD”.
Where have I heard that before.
 
D played well and we will see how well they can play next week against Milroe. That kid can run. Oh yeah, he’s not a bad pitcher either. Gonna be challenging.
 
just rewatched the game.
I know that the oline is taught that if you are in pass protection and no defender is there to block then help the guy next to you. But that leaves a gap a mile wide. And this is what C Jones did. so a delayed blitz by the LB came through and leveled Ewers. It forced a quick throw by Ewers for an incompletion.
Flood teach your players to STAY IN THEIR GAP EVEN IF THERE IS NO ONE TO BLOCK. Jones didnt even do anything to help the guy next to him but allowed a pathway to the QB. I have seen this in the past. Flood if you cant teach correct assignments, then I WILL TAKE YOUR D..N PLACE.
This occurred in the last ten seconds of the first half.
 
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I think some of the criticism about the O yesterday has to do with what I believe to be realistic expectations, not hype. These offensive lineman are not first year players, and Quinn Ewers is not an incoming freshman, or even a redshirt freshman.

Yes, there is hype every year, but this year – based on the pedigree and talent of the players — the expectations were not unrealistic.

Am I saying that the offense was terrible yesterday? No. But to me both the offense line and Ewers under performed. I give both a B. And remember, this was Rice. That’s not gonna cut it next Saturday in Tuscaloosa. If they don’t protect better, and QE doesn’t find a way to connect on one or two long balls, Alabama’s defense – their strength being edge rushers and corners — will throttle us.
 
Ewers played better in the 2nd half and didn’t let the 1st half bother him. I call that progress.
 
What I didn't like were the fails on 4th down. I believe we should have converted without a problem. I think Sark was upset about a three and out on our opening drive so he went for it deep in our own territory. That's a punt against 'Bama. But then we fail. Clearly we had busts up front. So that sort of thing speaks loudly to us because we are not here anymore to celebrate a win. We're past that. It's kind of sad but we want what we want. We want 49-0 against OU. We want a conference championship. We want playoffs. We want a NC. That's the standard we want. And we all believe we know it when we see it.

The consensus seems to be that we didn't see it yesterday.

Other thoughts:

Ewers does not have good accuracy on the long ball. Neither did Troy Aikman. Sark has to figure out his strengths and call the game accordingly.

I am buying into our defense, even though it was against Rice. We have a stud at 360 pounds. Burke is going to be a force. Ford may be the best linebacker in the country. We have great athletes all over. I'll give our coach the benefit of the doubt that he had a talent issues two years ago and maybe he learned some things from Patterson.
 
I also saw Campbell being pushed in the backfield by a smaller man. And on another occasion the DT was able to get around him to get to the QB. Color me unimpressed.
 
while i am still here: being a former receiver; Brooks didnt have his hands right to catch the ball. He still could have caught it. But we've all had drops. Hope he takes the time to understand how and why he missed that catch.
 
moondog_LFZ said:
You don't open up space for the intermediate passes unless you're throwing deep and making them defend that.
Even if you don't complete the deep pass.
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If your QB can't hit it, you do it once or twice at most a game. If your QB is Drake Maye, JJ McCarthy or Bo Nix, then sure almost every series.
 
Hopefully Ewers starts to see the whole field soon. He has tons of weapons, but throws primarily to Worthy. Needs to hit Sanders and Whittington more often.
 
hornde68 said:
Damn guys! It was going to be Rice a year ago or so when the schedule was set. Our D couldn’t imaginably done much better. Edge pressure not seen since the ‘70s. Ant was a little lost a couple of times but made up the most part with athletcism.
A game against a fair college opponent is worth 40 practices to meld the OL to a unit. A couple of guards had ole blocks but overall not bad for game 1.
I still hate theses momentum sapping long shots on first down, but I suppose we better practice them when possible.
Not a rose parade, but serviceable first game.
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Generally agree.

Although Kiki DeAyala (arguably our best pass rusher EVER) played in the early 1980s. And his Defenses brought sick pressure.

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Ewers didn’t make stupid errors for the most part. He shot putted a couple of passes, out of necessity of getting rid of the ball with a defender right on him.

OL communication and chemistry is the biggest area for improvement IMHO.
 
Sangre Naranjada said:
You just cannot stand to give Coach K a simple and straightforward compliment, can you?
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It was rice. No rb and no wr. If he has gap control against Bama, he gets credit but we have yet to see a pk defense do that in 2+ years. I am just amazed when you are mowing his lawn you dont offer up some helpful tips!!!
 
Sangre Naranjada said:
Just imagine what can be done. I have seen that motion guy
a) stop under center for the equivalent of a qb sneak
b) receive an immediate toss from the qb, acting as a type of quick reverse
c) block the DE or OLB on off tackle runs
d) act as a decoy that can be safely ignored until he can't
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I dont disagree with any of this but we have hardly ever seen it in action. It seems that it also keeps a defender in the box since they never have to worry about this person being part of the play?
 
The problem with the short and medium passes is if the secondary is not worried about the downfield pass the corners will play up making it harder to tun or throw those shorter passes.

From what he saw yesterday until Texas proves it can complete passes downfield, Saban will put 9 within 10 yards of the LOS and dare Texas to throw deep.
 
longhornlegend said:
Maybe some of you sunday morning coaching genius's can enlighten me on the motion receiver running across the formation on most downs. The almost seem to reach the center at the snap time. I just see no value to his motion. Any help here?

A Mitchell better learn to block or he needs to sit the pine. Receivers who block on plays they dont get the ball often are the difference in a small gain and big YAC. The oline issues are just puzzling to me. Why do we have what seems like the only oline that has trouble creating the pocket and protecting? Our guys are big, athletic and everyone wanted them.

Our D looked impressive but again it was Rice. They had no run game and no receivers so how could we not look good. I like that we played 30 players on d. We will need the depth as the season goes on and they all look capable. Someone better teach them gap integrity as a running qb will gash our d which we will see next week. Again, its Rice but the D was solid.
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Perhaps someone else responded. I'm no coaching genius, but the man in motion could do one or two things.

He may pull a defender off the side of the line / field we want to run or pass to.

Second, the QB could make a quick handoff to him and fake to the running back. You could do this to the TE side so you have an extra blocker.

Whitt as man in motion could be an extra blocker or take a handoff and be effective running the ball.

Man in motion might be setting up a play you want to run that game or vs. Bama next week!

Just my .02
 
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WorsterMan said:
Perhaps someone else responded. I'm no coaching genius, but the man in motion could one or two things.

He may pull a defender ok the side of the line / field we want to run or pass to.

Second, the QB could make a handoff to him and fake to the running back. You could do this to the TE side side so you have an extra blocker.

Man in motion might be setting up a play you want to run that game or vs. Bama next week!

Just my .02
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or he could have forgotten the snap count but knew to go sideways - not forward (like I did in the 9th grade).
 
There's something to be said for "it was Rice and we were just dicking around," especially considering how well the offense moved in the 3rd quarter. And I don't remember being super-impressed with the ULM game right before Bama last year (24-3 at the half isn't that much better than 16-3).

I'm most concerned with three things, and they're all on the offensive side of the ball:
1. Ewers' accuracy on the long throws (which was effing incredible in the limited time before he got hurt against Bama).
2. The OL's lack of communication and picking up the wrong guy on many plays.
3. None of the backs really need to be accounted for before a "set piece" style of defensive play. Rice was free to run successful stunts and blitzes because there was no Bijan/Roschon back there to give them fits if they ignored him.

The only horrible defensive play was Gbenda staring into the backfield while his zone responsibility jogged by him for their biggest gainer of the afternoon. I'm thinking we'll see a bit more of the freshman backups against Bama.
 
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