Herman is the problem

Herman and his staff need to fix themselves and improve, no doubt. I can't sugarcoat that, and I don't want to.

Despite all this, and I'm probably in the minority at this point, I don't want to throw Herman himself to the curb. Certainly not yet. I'm still on Team Tom. As for some of his underlings, that's a different story.
 
Not happy with a lot of the things TH has done lately, but I have to say he always calls out the coaching in his pressers, etc., that I have heard. Always says they need to do a better job of coaching.
 
SabreHorn suggested that it’s probably time for a players only meeting. That makes sense to me.

While clearly — and notwithstanding the injuries — we have been outcoached in each of the past three games, I tend to believe that the problem runs deeper.

Just my sense — and I could be wrong, but TH is an obsessive personality. Pee color. Hug a lineman. I love my players. We love each other.

Kids identify with real people and genuineness. Herman means well but I wonder if his methodology is beginning to wear thin. I think that DKR alluded to it: People can spot a phony a mile away. Now, I’m NOT saying that TH is phony. But what I am speculating is that his methodology — his schtick — is not working in the locker room. It’s wearing thin.

There is one certainty that is evident to everyone. There is a problem. If Herman cannot identify and fix it, and quickly, there will be lingering and possibly devastating effects.
 
KBBAKER said:
You can't win in Herman's offense with Shane. Plain and simple. Unfortunately, Herman is too much of a genius to adapt his offense around his players' strengths (think installing the zone read for VY). Herman will never change. The players know this, and they simply must fend for themselves (think transfer portal).

Sam is perfect for Herman's offense. Unfortunately, the lack of a serious running threat at tailback puts too much pressure on him to be a perfect passer every game. The O-Line is extremely weak right now.
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Right. And Shane would not stay health in Herman’s qback run oriented offense. As to all of the talk about the better passer, Shane always did, and still does, throw the better deep ball. But Sam has improved his short and intermediate passing skills to being really good. Any quarterback will have missed throws and interceptions, but Sam can thread the needle.
 
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mb227 said:
TrapperKeeper2000 alerted me that you would reply in this fashion.

Oh, it also tells me that all of the ingredients were supposed to be in the cake and it just needed to be baked...which I guess tells me that it is still on an older OS.
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Serious question. Are Binders and Trapper Keepers rivals?
 
All this getting hurt crap. Yes Shane got hurt but so did Sam remember? You get hit the potential is you’re gonna get hurt, no matter who you are. I am not going to make any arguments about Shane v Sam. I live them both and pulled for Shane back in the day but that day is gone. Now I’m all for Sam but I can see his mistakes in last game and I still say he licks in on a receiver. those of you who say no one is open when he is sacked are not watching the receivers. I often pick one or two when at the game and just watch them during the play. One, and sometimes two, break open but Sam has either started running or is simply not looking their way. Contrary to what the idiot announcers were saying last game Sam does NOT always keep his eyes up when he is deciding to scramble.
Now don’t flame me here, I’m a Sam fan but I see what I see.
 
horninchicago said:
Always says they need to do a better job of coaching.
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He's very generic. Never any specifics or discussion of how unless his "we gotta go back to work" line is his substitute for an identification of specific weaknesses. He calls out coaches in pressers also with we gotta do a better job or we gotta fix that.
 
BevoJoe said:
He's very generic. Never any specifics or discussion of how unless his "we gotta go back to work" line is his substitute for an identification of specific weaknesses.
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Agreed, just pointing out he doesn't just blame the players. But saying it means nothing when the coaching doesn't get better.
 
I would say it has a lot to do on Defense with 8 underclassmen being on the field for a lot of plays. Tyler Owens sure got schooled about his positioning. It will get better.

The OL collapse is a mystery but perhaps we should be rotating in more players? They seem like they are exhausted at this point in the season.

Firing coaches mid season is a pathetically ineffective response. Herman and every other HC does his review post season.

I would say that Herman may be a little too intense and strident in his exhortations. Maybe it is time to inject a little joy of playing the game back into the two week practice sessions.
 
Damn, I thought I had it rough in the press with my little MFG company. TH has 10 Million people watching his every decision. Yikes. 22-13, back to back #3 recruiting classes, back to back bowl wins. That says something right there. Especially after Charlie Strong. He will have the longest two weeks of his life starting yesterday morning 5AM or so. He lost 8 starters after last season and 5 more to injury this month. And that’s just the D. Obviously we lack the quality depth to lose this many players. Back off the man. You guys give him space to rectify what he can. 4 players coming back from injury in 2 weeks. If we end up 5-7 like some have said, then you can complain. 8-4 or 7-5 seem more likely to me. I predicted 11-1, so I’m not happy. Nobody thought 40% of the starters would go down at differing times this year. He’s grinding, let him finish then judge! We need more depth.
 
With all due respect, his emotional stability is a little questionable. Two things come to mind. 1. Longhorns mocked Mizzou QB’s celebration. As a leader of young men this is not leading by example. 2. His demeanor in press conferences after losses. He does not exude confidence and the aire of someone who's going to go back to the drawing board and get things done.

Perception is half the battle. As an example, I think Gundy wins the perception battle. I'm not sold that he's a top notch coach but you get the feeling that he is and you look to him like someone you'd like your kid to emulate.
 
OUBubba said:
With all due respect, his emotional stability is a little questionable. Two things come to mind. 1. Longhorns mocked Mizzou QB’s celebration. As a leader of young men this is not leading by example. 2. His demeanor in press conferences after losses. He does not exude confidence and the aire of someone who's going to go back to the drawing board and get things done.

Perception is half the battle. As an example, I think Gundy wins the perception battle. I'm not sold that he's a top notch coach but you get the feeling that he is and you look to him like someone you'd like your kid to emulate.
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Get off your sister, go to 7-11 and do your job. There are people in Jokelahoma waiting for their smokes.
 
OUBubba said:
Perception is half the battle. As an example, I think Gundy wins the perception battle. I'm not sold that he's a top notch coach but you get the feeling that he is and you look to him like someone you'd like your kid to emulate.
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Mullet wins ALL of the battles since, well, you know...he's 40 and he's a man!
 
OUBubba said:
With all due respect, his emotional stability is a little questionable. Two things come to mind. 1. Longhorns mocked Mizzou QB’s celebration. As a leader of young men this is not leading by example. 2. His demeanor in press conferences after losses. He does not exude confidence and the aire of someone who's going to go back to the drawing board and get things done.

Perception is half the battle. As an example, I think Gundy wins the perception battle. I'm not sold that he's a top notch coach but you get the feeling that he is and you look to him like someone you'd like your kid to emulate.
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OUB, always welcome here (said that enough times). My joke I haven't told here on the threads and might as well tell here, I refer to Herman at times as Sally Struthers, because whether we win or lose, Tom looks like he's going to break down and cry at any moment (for those of you too young, Sally was on All in the Family and later did commercials for helping children in Africa or somethin and would always sound like she was about to lose it)…..
 
OUBubba said:
With all due respect, his emotional stability is a little questionable. Two things come to mind. 1. Longhorns mocked Mizzou QB’s celebration. As a leader of young men this is not leading by example. 2. His demeanor in press conferences after losses. He does not exude confidence and the aire of someone who's going to go back to the drawing board and get things done.

Perception is half the battle. As an example, I think Gundy wins the perception battle. I'm not sold that he's a top notch coach but you get the feeling that he is and you look to him like someone you'd like your kid to emulate.
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I tend to agree with this assessment.
 
AC said:
Damn, I thought I had it rough in the press with my little MFG company. TH has 10 Million people watching his every decision. Yikes. 22-13, back to back #3 recruiting classes, back to back bowl wins. That says something right there. Especially after Charlie Strong. He will have the longest two weeks of his life starting yesterday morning 5AM or so. He lost 8 starters after last season and 5 more to injury this month. And that’s just the D. Obviously we lack the quality depth to lose this many players. Back off the man. You guys give him space to rectify what he can. 4 players coming back from injury in 2 weeks. If we end up 5-7 like some have said, then you can complain. 8-4 or 7-5 seem more likely to me. I predicted 11-1, so I’m not happy. Nobody thought 40% of the starters would go down at differing times this year. He’s grinding, let him finish then judge! We need more depth.
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AC, I’m just not so forgiving or patient. The injuries, while numerous, have been isolated to one position. Further, they have little to do with our inability to pressure the passer, or our scheme. Those injuries also have little to do with our abysmal offensive performance last weekend and against OU. Finally, those injuries have little to do with the obvious turmoil in the locker room.

Highly paid individuals will be under scrutiny. It comes with the territory. Herman’s team has been a disappointment — I’d say massive— this year. We should be asking questions, and wondering whether or not he can right the ship. I hope that he can, but for the first time since he was hired, I’m not so sure.
 
I guess that’s why he makes $5m per year. I don’t know if he can right the ship either. All I want is for the fans to let him try. If he fails he fails, at least we let him have this year and next. He deserves more time than CS!
 
AC said:
I guess that’s why he makes $5m per year. I don’t know if he can right the ship either. All I want is for the fans to let him try. If he fails he fails, at least we let him have this year and next. He deserves more time than CS!
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I don’t think Herman is going anywhere. And, I’d say he’s a lock through at least the 2020 campaign, and probably longer.

If the dude was more contrite and had some humility I would be more forgiving. But right now Mr. Know-It-All doesn’t seem to have the answers. He needs to find them, and fast, because the temperature will not be coming down any time soon until he does.
 
dukesteer said:
AC, I’m just not so forgiving or patient. The injuries, while numerous, have been isolated to one position. Further, they have little to do with our inability to pressure the passer, or our scheme. Those injuries also have little to do with our abysmal offensive performance last weekend and against OU. Finally, those injuries have little to do with the obvious turmoil in the locker room.

Highly paid individuals will be under scrutiny. It comes with the territory. Herman’s team has been a disappointment — I’d say massive— this year. We should be asking questions, and wondering whether or not he can right the ship. I hope that he can, but for the first time since he was hired, I’m not so sure.
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Perhaps a disappointment; not nearly “massive.” Massive would be 3-5.

Occam’s Razor—-simplest explanation: injuries. With all our people on the field, we are 6-2 or 7-1 right now, maybe in the top ten, and we might be complaining about the team, but not much.
 
dukesteer said:
SabreHorn suggested that it’s probably time for a players only meeting. That makes sense to me.

While clearly — and notwithstanding the injuries — we have been outcoached in each of the past three games, I tend to believe that the problem runs deeper.

Just my sense — and I could be wrong, but TH is an obsessive personality. Pee color. Hug a lineman. I love my players. We love each other.

Kids identify with real people and genuineness. Herman means well but I wonder if his methodology is beginning to wear thin. I think that DKR alluded to it: People can spot a phony a mile away. Now, I’m NOT saying that TH is phony. But what I am speculating is that his methodology — his schtick — is not working in the locker room. It’s wearing thin.

There is one certainty that is evident to everyone. There is a problem. If Herman cannot identify and fix it, and quickly, there will be lingering and possibly devastating effects.
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When you constantly preach,'" This is the way to do things. If you do it this way you will be great, you will win. !!!...and then you don't, not only don't win, but look like **** losing......Then the culture takes a huge hit. If you are going to preach, you darn well better get the results you preach about when the kids play hard, and they have played hard.
 
Herman isn’t going anywhere for as long as he wants to be here.
This **** is too funny. Talk about over reaction .

Clemson “fans” were saying the same thing about Dabo 3-4 years into it.

Remember when a ******** WVU team with Holgerson lit up the scoreboard on Dabo to the tune of 70+ points in the bowl game?
 
So, Clemson has the same tradition and resources, etc., as Texas? What happens at Clemson is what Texas fans should base their expectations on?

I wasn't aware of that all these years.
 
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