heckuva speech, Trumpy
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OUBubba
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Ok. I think a great result of ‘24 would be a non Kamala/Biden nominee beating trump. Desantis would be tougher to beat.
OUBubba
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Good points, Bubba. I have a couple of questions to raise for your response:
(1) If the Dem nominee is not Biden or Kamala, who would it be? I don't see a standout rising above the others. Furthermore, IMO, if Joe bows out and Kamala wants it, I think it would be very difficult for the Dems to bypass her - doing so would effectively be repudiating the four years of the current Dem Administration, and that would be a tough sell.
(2) Agree re DeSantis. I hope for two things myself - (a) Trump bows out gracefully and (b) DeSantis becomes the nominee. A ticket with DeSantis and Nikki Haley would be tough to beat if Trump endorses it.
Thoughts? Counterpoints?
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OUBubba
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First. Trump knows **** all about exiting gracefully. Not going to happen.
Second, good question. I think Kamala has to have the wherewithal to know that she’s not viable. Klobecher would be my choice. She’s a bad ***. Newsome? Corey booker? There are some out there. AOC is too far left.
Please. Any of those retards against the Republican candidate. Allsome.
Bubba, I'm having a hard time buying into your counterpoint here. Yeh, she dropped out of the 2020 primaries because she was getting no support - she may have known then that her candidacy wasn't viable. But is 2024 she will be the sitting VP - in her mind, that would elevate her cred quite a bit. IMO, she would play that card very heavily in the primaries - and she would get some support from the powers-that-be because she would be the sitting VP.
Klobecher is a bit short on name recognition. Gavin Newsom is a total joke - although I think he'd get a lot of support from Californians (as the best way to get him out of the state!). Booker is associated with The Squad, just as much (almost) as AOC. Again, I'm still not seeing a viable Dem candidate - but it's early, and a lot can happen between now and then.
We'll see. He may be persuaded that the best chance to get the GOP back in charge would be for him to be the Kingmaker instead of the candidate. Again, I'll vote for him if he's the nominee - but I'd personally prefer DeSantis.
He'd have to die or have some kind of major health catastrophe like a stroke that leaves him like a vegetable.
I remember when Kamala Harris was hailed as the next Obama when she first became a national figure. Never made sense to me. In fact, I didn't understand how she even became a statewide figure until I learned about the Willie Brown connection. That explained everything.
Klobuchar and Booker (who actually does have some of Obama's talent) have blue collar appeal. They wouldn't be slam dunk winners because nobody is, but they'd certainly be hard to beat. Trump would have no chance against either of them.
I don't get the push to draft Newsom. He is a better communicator than Harris is, but there is zero appeal beyond the coasts. Yes, he survived a recall effort against Larry Friggin Elder in the state where Democrats probably have the biggest advantage in the country (because of their numbers, the polarization of the parties and voters, and the gross incompetence of the opposition party), but that means very little.
Culturally and socially, he embraces the nuttiest elements of the party. The BLM and tranny stuff isn't going to play in the swing states like it does in California. Furthermore, the lockdown hypocrisy would go over like a fart in a car. He would lose to every serious Republican contender and might even lose to Trump. It would be close.
OUBubba
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Had he pulled his big boy underwear up in November and focused on Georgia in a way that could help the GOP I might believe you. He spent his two months castigating Republicans to try to overthrow the election when he could have spent them campaigning on "saving the Senate". He pissed that down his leg. He lost the Senate run off in Georgia almost by himself.
So, you are saying he "lost" because he did not campaign properly in Georgia?
Therefore, you must be now admitting that Hillary did not properly campaign in Wisconsin and Pennsylvania, right? Or, is it that somehow Trump, who libs say is so disorganized and chaotic, somehow managed to collude with Russia to win?
Let's play along and say you are correct. Trump ignored Georgia and acted like a buffoon. You are saying that Biden, when he came out of his basement, focused diligently on Georgia and actually campaigned?
Oh, Bubbs, you slay us.
OUBubba
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Ok. I'm a poor communicator. I'm saying he lost Georgia in a close election. After the election he then spent two months trying to sway the Republican authorities to change the vote. He COULD have been spending that time rallying the troops to actually vote for the Senate candidate that would help the GOP. He did not put much effort into that as he was too busy raising money under the "Stop the Steal" flag.
And, FWIW, I didn't say **** about HRC.
PS: I'm happy to continue to slay you. Tip your wait staff.
Good to see you more.
He did all that because we Trumpster loons dig it.Ok. I'm a poor communicator. I'm saying he lost Georgia in a close election. After the election he then spent two months trying to sway the Republican authorities to change the vote. He COULD have been spending that time rallying the troops to actually vote for the Senate candidate that would help the GOP. He did not put much effort into that as he was too busy raising money under the "Stop the Steal" flag.
And, FWIW, I didn't say **** about HRC.
PS: I'm happy to continue to slay you. Tip your wait staff.
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Professional auditors whose members were responsible for national security (hardly amateurs) in our government find fraud in AZ . Maricopa County itself caught deleting election records the day before the audit.
Ex-SCOTUS of Wisconsin finds ballot harvesting in the nursing homes in Wisconsin along with the voting machines having modems.
Ballot harvesting investigation of Georgia still ongoing. Videos of guys taking photos of ballots and the drop boxes. Hardly grandmas dropping ballots off for family members.
Over a thousand affidavits, many of them election officials, who said they saw fraud on November 3rd
Numerous stat heads with doctorate degrees saying this election was bunk.
Yet, it's all a conspiracy theory.
How the **** did we get this stupid as a nation?
Ex-SCOTUS of Wisconsin finds ballot harvesting in the nursing homes in Wisconsin along with the voting machines having modems.
Ballot harvesting investigation of Georgia still ongoing. Videos of guys taking photos of ballots and the drop boxes. Hardly grandmas dropping ballots off for family members.
Over a thousand affidavits, many of them election officials, who said they saw fraud on November 3rd
Numerous stat heads with doctorate degrees saying this election was bunk.
Yet, it's all a conspiracy theory.
How the **** did we get this stupid as a nation?
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Does anything scream "Vote Republican" better than the Democrat party telling Biden and Harris to get lost in 2024? That's a very public way for Dems to say they are terrible.
OUBubba
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Vote Republican and fast forward to Season Two of The Handmaiden's Tale!
I suspect they will play the age card on Biden, and they'll have a solid point. Who would really take issue with that? With Harris, I think they'll just acknowledge her lack of viability. It's pretty obvious anyway. Blowing Willie Brown can get you pretty far, but it won't quite get you to the presidency. She can still be proud of that. So can Willie Brown.
That's a hard opinion to swallow, Deez.
DING! DING! DING!
If Kamala wants the nomination and the party says "No," that amounts to saying "You're part of the current administration and we can't defend the record of the current administration." It would be very hard to ask the electorate to vote for the party nominee when the party can't stand on its record.
Those who find it hard to swallow are free to spit it out. It's perfectly ok.
I do think Willie Brown can be proud though. The VP of the United States is where she is because she blew him. It's the most consequential decision she ever made. Had she not done that, none of us would have any idea who she is. How many guys can say that about somebody who blew them. I honestly can't think of anybody. Bill Clinton? Donald Trump? Nope. Willie Brown has more career potential in his junk than either of those guys. He could use that as a selling point when looking for mistresses.
OUBubba
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I don't want to quibble...but, she could have let him go to that other place or give her the shocker (my favorite gameday sign: 2 in the Pinkel, one in the stinkel). To keep referencing fellatio only takes away from other potentially pleasing agenda items and is quite sexist and racist.
I don't want to quibble...but, she could have let him go to that other place or give her the shocker (my favorite gameday sign: 2 in the Pinkel, one in the stinkel). To keep referencing fellatio only takes away from other potentially pleasing agenda items and is quite sexist and racist.
You're right. I am being presumptuous. Very insensitive of me.
OUBubba
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I need this response to more of my posts here. I feel like a Washington General player who just won a game.
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