Good job, Austin!

Mr. Deez said:
What got 2 Live Crew banned when we were younger is mainstream now. Her big hit now is called "WAP," which stands for "Wet-*** *****." Ain't that tasteful?
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It certainly can be if cleansed properly, but I don't need to hear anyone "singing" about it. I hadn't even heard of that person above until you mentioned her.
 
iatrogenic said:
Every profession could be improved. The legal profession is near the top of the list.
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iatrogenic said:
If you really want to reform something that would result in the greatest improvement to the Country, reform black culture.
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Bull, if you want to reform with the greatest result, defund Congress!
I remember when I thought the song “I wanna kiss you all over” was disgusting for my kids.
 
iatrogenic said:
That answer is known as "question begging" because you just repeat the same thing.

We know they are the police and not the military. The military carries pistols and rifles, so the police should not have pistols and rifles?

The question is "why shouldn't they have military grade equipment?"
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The answer is no
 
nashhorn said:
I remember when I thought the song “I wanna kiss you all over” was disgusting for my kids.
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I remember my slightly older sister getting a ton of flack when my dad caught her listening to "I Wanna Sex You Up" by Color Me Bad and my older brother getting ripped for bringing home "Panama" by Van Halen. That stuff would be wildly tame today.
 
WillUSAF said:
The argument here is not a case by case situation. It is whether should the police have the military equipment at all. NO they should not. Again, they are the POLICE. NOT the Dept of Defense.
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And then after you take it away, the situation that comes up which justified the original purchase will give rise to the question of why LEO's were sent into a situation without proper equipment.

Of course, if the left would allow proper clearing of the streets and prosecution of the rioters, then some of the equipment might cease to be necessary.
 
mb227 said:
And then after you take it away, the situation that comes up which justified the original purchase will give rise to the question of why LEO's were sent into a situation without proper equipment.

Of course, if the left would allow proper clearing of the streets and prosecution of the rioters, then some of the equipment might cease to be necessary.
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The second half is true but I still can not see any situation that the equipment I used in Iraq and Afghanistan has a place on our streets. There is plenty of equipment to hold rioters at bay. Tear gas, barriers, rubber bullets, intel. Other cities have stopped riots without the military surplus. Here in Cleveland they had 1 night then shut down all streets downtown the next morning and nothing else happened. We need leaders that have balls to do something about the anarchists. Period.

I'll say it again and again. They are Police NOT the Army or Marines clearing blocks in Mosul.....
 
WillUSAF said:
The second half is true but I still can not see any situation that the equipment I used in Iraq and Afghanistan has a place on our streets. There is plenty of equipment to hold rioters at bay. Tear gas, barriers, rubber bullets, intel. Other cities have stopped riots without the military surplus. Here in Cleveland they had 1 night then shut down all streets downtown the next morning and nothing else happened. We need leaders that have balls to do something about the anarchists. Period.

I'll say it again and again. They are Police NOT the Army or Marines clearing blocks in Mosul.....
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I do agree that it is a little too widespread and it is sometimes deployed a little too quickly, but there is also a case to be made for having it available for advanced threats. And those do exists here. I worked for SOUTHCOM for a bit and there are a few gangs that have some serious stuff to contend with. Maybe the answer is keeping this kind of response in the Fed's hands where the training is more extensive, but LEO's at some level need Military grade gear. There is also a case to be made for "show of force" tactics. It is one of the foremost ways we use the Navy these days. You park an aircraft carrier on someone's front porch and they think twice. They same goes for a bad guy staring out his window looking at 45 cops geared to the hilt with an armored vehicle parked on your front lawn. Maybe that show of force causes the bad guy to do a little different math and give himself up instead of fight it out.
 
BrntOrngStmpeDe said:
I do agree that it is a little too widespread and it is sometimes deployed a little too quickly, but there is also a case to be made for having it available for advanced threats. And those do exists here. I worked for SOUTHCOM for a bit and there are a few gangs that have some serious stuff to contend with. Maybe the answer is keeping this kind of response in the Fed's hands where the training is more extensive, but LEO's at some level need Military grade gear. There is also a case to be made for "show of force" tactics. It is one of the foremost ways we use the Navy these days. You park an aircraft carrier on someone's front porch and they think twice. They same goes for a bad guy staring out his window looking at 45 cops geared to the hilt with an armored vehicle parked on your front lawn. Maybe that show of force causes the bad guy to do a little different math and give himself up instead of fight it out.
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I definitely respect your opinion and to some degree I agree. But majority of these criminals are not intimidated by cops no matter what gear they have. Most have been to prison and are either: 1. not afraid to go back or 2. going out in a flame of glory. And to your point of leaving it up to the Feds that is agreeable but they have their hands tied by being restricted on what they can do and where they can do it.
 
WillUSAF said:
I definitely respect your opinion and to some degree I agree. But majority of these criminals are not intimidated by cops no matter what gear they have. Most have been to prison and are either: 1. not afraid to go back or 2. going out in a flame of glory. And to your point of leaving it up to the Feds that is agreeable but they have their hands tied by being restricted on what they can do and where they can do it.
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Having spent nearly 35 years working with and around the Texas prison system, there is a reason many don't worry about going back...they are coddled ever since the courts sought to interfere in the late 80's/early 90's. Add in that too many DA's play Monty Hall with minimal sentences and people just aren't that scared of the consequence.

It still isn't a place I want to call home, but it is nowhere NEAR what it was when building tenders ruled the roost...and nothing even remotely like what I saw when I first walked down the halls of Eastham in '87 (which at the time had just made a national magazine as 'America's Toughest Prison, admittedly based upon actions from two years earlier).

I still remember touring an Illinois prison circa '91 and before the feds screwed THEM up...their holding pen for disciplinary hearings still had the hooks in the wall to handcuff waiting convicts to.
 
mb227 said:
Having spent nearly 35 years working with and around the Texas prison system, there is a reason many don't worry about going back...they are coddled ever since the courts sought to interfere in the late 80's/early 90's. Add in that too many DA's play Monty Hall with minimal sentences and people just aren't that scared of the consequence.

It still isn't a place I want to call home, but it is nowhere NEAR what it was when building tenders ruled the roost...and nothing even remotely like what I saw when I first walked down the halls of Eastham in '87 (which at the time had just made a national magazine as 'America's Toughest Prison, admittedly based upon actions from two years earlier).

I still remember touring an Illinois prison circa '91 and before the feds screwed THEM up...their holding pen for disciplinary hearings still had the hooks in the wall to handcuff waiting convicts to.
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My brother was in Eastham at that time I believe. You might have met him. :lol:
 
Horn6721 said:
Garme
That is an interesting distinction.
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An interesting one, but hardly a unique one...prisons are filled with people who actually do well under actual supervision but cannot run their own lives for squat...

Some of the best Clerk's we had back in the day were in for homicide...but this was also before the gang-banging thug nonsense took over. Most of the ones we had could be released and the biggest problem they might ever have again was drinking too much on a weekend...
 
Even if you are dead. Or a cat. Or a dead cat.
Just send it back, dont worry about filling it in, we will do that for you
 
The Austin Mayor flew in a private plane to Cabo San Lucas where he then filmed himself telling citizens to ‘Stay Home’

 
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