Georgia Senate Race

OUBubba said:
I donated to stacy abrams PAC. So, I'd say that it went to Ossoff and Warnock. I may have mispoke a little.

We should put her in charge of vaccine logistics.
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Stacy Abrams and Donald Trump did more for the Democratic party this election cycle than other people.
 
bystander said:
I didn't see any Democrats on the ballot. Only ruthless extremists pretending to be rational kind hearted people.
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Democrat is synonymous with "extremist" based on most of your recent rants so it's not surprising that is all you see.

If I sit inside a refrigerator box the world looks like it's made of cardboard.
 
The Democrats compete at the national level, as seen in the Georgia senate races, where tons of out of state money flooded in to fill Dem. coffers. The Republicans seem to lag way behind in that area.
 
Seattle Husker said:
Democrat is synonymous with "extremist" based on most of your recent rants so it's not surprising that is all you see.

If I sit inside a refrigerator box the world looks like it's made of cardboard.
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And yet the march towards extremism continues. I'm not questioning the election. I'm questioning the power of the Big Tech and the assault on our personal freedoms in the name of censorship, cancel culture, white privilege, virtue signaling, moral imperative and political correctness. All Liberal constructs designed to take complete power over our minds and lives. There is no doubt this is happening. You are the one in the box because you want to close your eyes and sing that all that is good is about to happen. But it's not going to be good. It's only going to be further power plays by the AOC's. You downplay them. But guess what? Trump is gone. They are not.

What you call a rant are the facts as I see them. I have no evidence and have offered no theory peddled by conspiracy theorists. I just read their words and see the anger on the streets from the Left. You have bought into the evils of white people. You have bought into the notion that innocent people must pay.

What happened at the White House was a political tragedy in many ways but these two stick out to me: 1) That it could happen in the first place 2) The justification in now provides the extremists on the Left.

Shockingly, even the LA Times spoke of it:

Op-Ed: Democrats will be making a huge mistake if they let the left hijack the party
 
bystander said:
And yet the march towards extremism continues. I'm not questioning the election. I'm questioning the power of the Big Tech and the assault on our personal freedoms in the name of censorship, cancel culture, white privilege, virtue signaling, moral imperative and political correctness. All Liberal constructs designed to take complete power over our minds and lives. There is no doubt this is happening. You are the one in the box because you want to close your eyes and sing that all that is good is about to happen. But it's not going to be good. It's only going to be further power plays by the AOC's. You downplay them. But guess what? Trump is gone. They are not.

What you call a rant are the facts as I see them. I have no evidence and have offered no theory peddled by conspiracy theorists. I just read their words and see the anger on the streets from the Left. You have bought into the evils of white people. You have bought into the notion that innocent people must pay.

What happened at the White House was a political tragedy in many ways but these two stick out to me: 1) That it could happen in the first place 2) The justification in now provides the extremists on the Left.

Shockingly, even the LA Times spoke of it:

Op-Ed: Democrats will be making a huge mistake if they let the left hijack the party
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I appreciate the response. I stand by my statement that through your lens which has been on display in every recent post, everyone to your left is an extremist. At one time on this board you had the ability to look right. Alas, could it be that you've shifted so far right that everyone is now on your left?
 
mchammer said:
100-200 people across a single state (roughly 1-3 persons per county) submitting 100 illegal ballots each is the difference in vote totals in AZ, GA, and WI. The election was clearly stolen under the ethics of most folks.
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mchammer said:
Agreed, if ballot auditing showed >10% of the vote differential is fraudulent, you can easily assume 10x wasn’t caught. The focus should be on the mail-in ballots and the myriad of ways they can be abused.
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mchammer said:
I am not happy with Trump since Election Day. You won’t find a single post of mine on WM that supported Trump’s actions since Election Day other than my recommendation to focus on the abuse of mail-in ballots, which was ignored.
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Bump - from Jan 8
 
OUBubba said:
That assumes only one side is committing voting crimes. You seem to be ignoring the fact that a significant portion of documented voter fraud cases come from your side of the isle.
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Dems upped their game in 2020, took millions from folks like Zuckerberg to buy votes, and took advantage of the rule changes imposed by unelected judges.
 
Hammer, you realize that this thread highlights an example of us throwing away two Senate seats from the same state on the same day by acting stupid, right?
 
Speaking of Georgia...anyone notice that, after the SenDems filibustered the Nord Stream 2 sanctions Bill from Cruz, Warnock was one of six who crossed over to vote FOR the sanctions.

That surely won't go over well with his Shumer-esque overlords...
 
Mr. Deez said:
Hammer, you realize that this thread highlights an example of us throwing away two Senate seats from the same state on the same day by acting stupid, right?
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Literally pissed them down the leg. The only salvation for the right is the two "Dems" that are trying to walk the high wire between the two poles.
 
OUBubba said:
Literally pissed them down the leg. The only salvation for the right is the two "Dems" that are trying to walk the high wire between the two poles.
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They aren't "Dems." They are Dems. For West Virginia, Manchin is left-leaning. Keep in mind that Biden did worse in West Virginia than Trump did in any state. That's how red it is. Having a Democrat from WV would be like having a Republican from Vermont or Massachusetts but even more out of place. Sinema is behaving the way someone from a purple state likely would.

Basically, they're both Dems, but they're not crazy. Furthermore, I've read that they speak for other Democratic senators who don't want to go on record and invite primary challengers. In fact, when the cameras are off, we know damn good and well that they speak for Chuck Schumer based on comments he has said in pretty recent years.

Ultimately, you guys have talked yourself into this idea that things like voter ID, going back to pre-pandemic election rules, etc. are such a major threat to the Republic that it's worth radical change to try to stop them. That's why the Bull Connor, Jim Crow, and Jefferson Davis references resonate with you. People outside your bubble hear that and think it's lunacy. It's just really hard to make people think "May I see your ID?" is comparable to firehoses, attack dogs, and lyncings, and when you guys invoke those things, it just sounds wildly hyperbolic and nutty - and to the point that it comes across as insincere and fake. Normal people don't believe it, and worse, they doubt your belief. You try to link them by bringing up January 6, but it doesn't logically follow. Feel free to keep it up, but it's not a winning formula. It alienates far more than it attracts or motivates.
 
Mr. Deez said:
They aren't "Dems." They are Dems. For West Virginia, Manchin is left-leaning. Keep in mind that Biden did worse in West Virginia than Trump did in any state. That's how red it is. Having a Democrat from WV would be like having a Republican from Vermont or Massachusetts but even more out of place. Sinema is behaving the way someone from a purple state likely would.

Basically, they're both Dems, but they're not crazy. Furthermore, I've read that they speak for other Democratic senators who don't want to go on record and invite primary challengers. In fact, when the cameras are off, we know damn good and well that they speak for Chuck Schumer based on comments he has said in pretty recent years.

Ultimately, you guys have talked yourself into this idea that things like voter ID, going back to pre-pandemic election rules, etc. are such a major threat to the Republic that it's worth radical change to try to stop them. That's why the Bull Connor, Jim Crow, and Jefferson Davis references resonate with you. People outside your bubble hear that and think it's lunacy. It's just really hard to make people think "May I see your ID?" is comparable to firehoses, attack dogs, and lyncings, and when you guys invoke those things, it just sounds wildly hyperbolic and nutty - and to the point that it comes across as insincere and fake. Normal people don't believe it, and worse, they doubt your belief. You try to link them by bringing up January 6, but it doesn't logically follow. Feel free to keep it up, but it's not a winning formula. It alienates far more than it attracts or motivates.
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I’m fine with pre pandemic voting. I’m good with voter ID. I am against making it easier for state legislatures to overturn election results. We were very close to that happening and they’ve been nothing but ******** and elbows to grease the skids for it to be easier.
 
OUBubba said:
I’m fine with pre pandemic voting. I’m good with voter ID. I am against making it easier for state legislatures to overturn election results. We were very close to that happening and they’ve been nothing but ******** and elbows to grease the skids for it to be easier.
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That may be your personal sentiment, but your party leaders use the same kind of rhetoric to refer to anything Republicans do on election laws - even when their laws are looser than what some blue states have. They were doing this **** long before the 2020 election crap.

Also, I'm not a fan of the laws to make it easier for legislatures to overturn presidential elections. However, even that issue is overblown. Why? Because legislatures can already do that. Remember, the right to vote for president belongs to the Electoral College, and the to right to choose electors belongs to the legislatures, not the people. The Oklahoma Legislature could have convened after Election Day, decided they didn't like Trump getting their electoral votes, and chosen Biden electors. It wouldn't have been dirty or illegal. It is their right.
 
Mr. Deez said:
Hammer, you realize that this thread highlights an example of us throwing away two Senate seats from the same state on the same day by acting stupid, right?
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Part of the master plan to get 60 senators by 2024.
 
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