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Yellowdog, he came to fight the swamp and the swamp won. Took all they had - Russia Russia, impeachment etc, but they won after 4 years in the end.
I hate to rain on your parade but both Bush and Obama left worse situations in Congress than Trump when they left office.List and verbiage on Ossoff donations sourced directly from a Fox Business article. So it's gotta be true.
Not sure where I heard the comparison last evening, between potus and the Wizard of Oz, but it stuck. In the end, they both got exposed as empty suits. The dude goes to Ruby Red Georgia, (no Ruby Red Slippers), with the balance of power in government at stake and he couldn't carry his two incumbents over the finish line as the lose to the Black guy and the Jewish guy. In Georgia.
He came into power with his party controlling both houses of congress and leaves with both houses in Democratic control. The Capital building is a bloody crime scene. He has run twice and has lost by more than 10 million votes. That's some legacy. Christ, I owe Reagan an apology.
I hate to rain on your parade but both Bush and Obama left worse situations in Congress than Trump when they left office.
The end of the Bush administration, the economy was in a free fall.
You are ignoring what Obama did to the Dem party in state legislatures in addition to congress. Obama had 60 votes in Senate when he started. Obama was worse. Period.But they didn't lose for doing stupid things. They lost because of economic conditions outside their control and from pushing policies they had basically run on that didn't turn out as expected. The real tragedy of the political failure of Trump is that it's almost entirely self-inflicted. He did and said a lot of stupid ****, and we paid the price. We didn't enact bad policies. We didn't get a recession blamed on us. We just acted like idiots.
Again , you are conveniently ignoring the Dems losses across the board between 2008 to 2016 under Obama. You are wrong. Admit it you are exaggerating the situation and move on.The end of the Bush administration, the economy was in a free fall. It was only the socialistic bailout by the Congress to banks and Wall Street that averted an economic collapse far worse than the Crash of 1929.
On the other hand, Obama-Biden handed off to the new administration an economy that was on fire. A miracle considering the economy was shedding 800,000 jobs a month when he took over from W.
Google is your friend. The General Accounting Office site is a treasure trove of information.
One could argue it will be better since Bushism lingered for a while in the GOP (McCain, Romney) whereas Trump appears to be being flushed.But they didn't lose for doing stupid things. They lost because of economic conditions outside their control and from pushing policies they had basically run on that didn't turn out as expected. The real tragedy of the political failure of Trump is that it's almost entirely self-inflicted. He did and said a lot of stupid ****, and we paid the price. We didn't enact bad policies. We didn't get a recession blamed on us. We just acted like idiots.
Bush and Obama both had 8 years in office and significant events to overcome in their terms. Bush 911 and the resulting wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. Obama the great recession and related economic events. Trump was elected one term and had CV19 as the main event in his term. Whether you use political or economic metrics it is impossible to compares the 8 year terms to 4 year term in how things ended for each.I hate to rain on your parade but both Bush and Obama left worse situations in Congress than Trump when they left office.
Bush never had to deal with the massive amount of mail in ballots coming in that benefits the dems in more ways than one. If we had this same system set up in the past Trump would not have won in 2016 and Bush would never been president.
To be honest, Trump did more in 4 years than Obama in 8.It took Bush and Obama two terms to lose the Executive, House and Senate to the opposition party.
Trump accomplished the same result in one term.
You are ignoring what Obama did to the Dem party in state legislatures in addition to congress. Obama had 60 votes in Senate when he started. Obama was worse. Period.
My argument is quantitative, which is what I thought the original assertion was based on. You are deflecting to a qualitative argument that I don’t disagree with. Nice try, but no.Obama lost more Democratic officeholders. That is true. (He also had more to lose.) However, he lost them by scoring a major policy victory that was very unpopular in the short term but that no one has managed to do much about. We lost ours by peddling goofy conspiracy theories and making wise cracks on Twitter.
We lost ours by peddling goofy conspiracy theories and making wise cracks on Twitter.
I don’t know how you could be more wrong:That's what his supporters celebrate the most. They love that he's a troll. They revel in it. This, along with a horrible response to Covid in which he downplayed, questioned and generally stonewalled his way to 350,000 people and counting dying is why he lost the election by 7 million votes.
My argument is quantitative, which is what I thought the original assertion was based on. You are deflecting to a qualitative argument that I don’t disagree with. Nice try, but no.
Thanks.
We weren't in a free fall late 2008/2009? I seem to remember it was horrible. They had to come off of the campaign trail to pass legislation to keep the lights on. I've watched documentaries detailing such. Is that wrong?Yelladawg, you're a good guy, and I admire your patriotism, but this isn't true at all.
By looking at that list, it appears most of Ossoff's money came from out of state. At least some of Perdue's top contributors were Georgia based companies; Home Depot, Delta Airlines, etc.
We weren't in a free fall late 2008/2009? I seem to remember it was horrible. They had to come off of the campaign trail to pass legislation to keep the lights on. I've watched documentaries detailing such. Is that wrong?
Hell, I donated to Ossoff and Warnock and I didn't donate to any Oklahoma pols.
I donated to stacy abrams PAC. So, I'd say that it went to Ossoff and Warnock. I may have mispoke a little.Strangely, I initially thought he was talking about the previous Bush Administration and the S&L crap. Obviously the economy was in freefall in 2008 and 2009.
You're a jackass for donating to Warnock.