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mchammer said:
www.flightglobal.com

Pilot’s control input caused United 767 hard landing at Houston: NTSB

"Improper control column inputs" by a first officer caused a United Airlines Boeing 767-300 to slam onto a Houston runway with sufficient force to significantly damage its fuselage in 2023.
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I was assured by a poster here that DEI hires are properly trained. This article suggests they are not.
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Football players are properly trained. They don't always execute properly, however. So, I am sure pilots are still properly trained.
 
hic
What is troubling from the report is how often the first officer got "unsatisfactory "grades and questioning of ability to perform
Yet the first officer was allowed to land the plane.
That does not sound like proper training. Wouldn't proper training have denied the person from performing in a real situation until deemed satisfactory?
 
Horn6721 said:
hic
What is troubling from the report is how often the first officer got "unsatisfactory "grades and questioning of ability to perform
Yet the first officer was allowed to land the plane.
That does not sound like proper training. Wouldn't proper training have denied the person from performing in a real situation until deemed satisfactory?
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No clue. At some point a pilot has to satisfactorily demonstrate all teh maneuvers in a sim to get signed off. I can say at my ailroine that people fail if they don't do so.
 
horninchicago said:
Football players are properly trained. They don't always execute properly, however. So, I am sure pilots are still properly trained.
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All commercial pilots meet a standard on a never-ending schedule. When they have to execute in real time, there is someone who knows better sitting next to them.
 
Horn6721 said:
What is troubling from the report is how often the first officer got "unsatisfactory "grades and questioning of ability to perform
Yet the first officer was allowed to land the plane.
That does not sound like proper training. Wouldn't proper training have denied the person from performing in a real situation until deemed satisfactory?
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When I was an Instructor Pilot in the Air Force, it was made clear to me (and the other IPs) that we had two priority objectives in training student pilots:
(1) help the students learn how to fly the aircraft properly
(2) keep them from killing us while they're learning.
We all learned this key point quickly - "if you are ever in doubt as to taking control from the student, you should take control; don't wait until the situation gets critical."
I would expect that airline Captains would observe that same concept when the First Officer is flying the aircraft.
 
HornHuskerDad said:
When I was an Instructor Pilot in the Air Force, it was made clear to me (and the other IPs) that we had two priority objectives in training student pilots:
(1) help the students learn how to fly the aircraft properly
(2) keep them from killing us while they're learning.
We all learned this key point quickly - "if you are ever in doubt as to taking control from the student, you should take control; don't wait until the situation gets critical."
I would expect that airline Captains would observe that same concept when the First Officer is flying the aircraft.
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Yeah, but you don’t want to be that guy who is a “mansplainer”.
 
HHD
As a mere passenger That was my thought
WTH was the pilot
Maybe there wasn't time for the pilot to take over
But reading how new the First Officer was and the poor ratings I would have thought the pilot would have paid close attention
 
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