Fall Camp

Some visual observations of the big uglies:

Cosmi sure is not carrying much fat for a guy north of 300 lbs.

It’s hard to tell from the photos’ angles, but it appears that much of Coburn’s weight gain went into his leg muscles. That’s a good sign.

When the linemen gain as much weight as ours did this offseason, there’s always a concern they’re putting on a bunch of bad weight / belly fat. Not these two anyway.
 
Joe Fan said:
...Devin Duvernay currently being tried at slot to get Brennan Eagles on the field (two of the faster guys we have on same side)
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We have an interesting roster at WR with 3 seniors and no juniors. It's kind of hard to see everyone sticking. Here are our WRs by class (Epps was able to hang on to his RS)
Seniors
Burt(RS), Duvernay, Johnson
Juniors
none
Sophomores
Eagles, Moore, Pouncey(RS)
Freshmen
Epps(RS), Lewis, Smith, Washington, Woodward(RS)

Here is what the projected starters looked like until Aug practice began
X CJ, then Epps then Washington (Pouncey listed here last year)
Z Duvernay, then Eagles then Burt/Woodard/Lewis
H Moore or Smith, then Jordan Pouncey​

But now it looks like we are moving Duvernay to the slot, at least partially in an effort to get Eagles' speed on the field. It's possible this may not stick and is a motivation tool for Moore and Smith. And while I admit Ive never really considered Duv anything but a pure Z, you have to admit the idea of his speed and sure hands in the slot is intriguing.

Here is a quote from Herman about that move --
“We hadn’t planned on that until these last few weeks. It wasn’t even on our radar, to be honest with you. Then we had some long personnel meetings, offensively. Devin’s had an unbelievable offseason and so has Brennan. We feel like (Moore and Smith) have to really prove that they deserve to be on the field for an extended period of time. Because if that’s the case and Brennan and Devin are playing the same position, then one of them is going to be standing on the sideline every other snap. Experimenting with it right now, but it was due to some recent personnel discussions and how good of summers both Brennan and Devin had.”​
 
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And who needs an actual running game when your short passing game functions as the running game...

:rolleyes1:
 
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Joe Fan said:
We have an interesting roster at WR with 3 seniors and no juniors. It's kind of hard to see everyone sticking. Here are our WRs by class (Epps was able to hang on to his RS)
Seniors
Burt(RS), Duvernay, Johnson
Juniors
none
Sophomores
Eagles, Moore, Pouncey(RS)
Freshmen
Epps(RS), Lewis, Smith, Washington, Woodward(RS)

Here is what the projected starters looked like until Aug practice began
X CJ, then Epps then Washington (Pouncey listed here last year)
Z Duvernay, then Eagles then Burt/Woodard/Lewis
H Moore or Smith, then Jordan Pouncey​

But now it looks like we are moving Duvernay to the slot, at least partially in an effort to get Eagles' speed on the field. It's possible this may not stick and is a motivation tool for Moore and Smith. And while I admit Ive never really considered Duv anything but a pure Z, you have to admit the idea of his speed and sure hands in the slot is intriguing.

Here is a quote from Herman about that move --
“We hadn’t planned on that until these last few weeks. It wasn’t even on our radar, to be honest with you. Then we had some long personnel meetings, offensively. Devin’s had an unbelievable offseason and so has Brennan. We feel like (Moore and Smith) have to really prove that they deserve to be on the field for an extended period of time. Because if that’s the case and Brennan and Devin are playing the same position, then one of them is going to be standing on the sideline every other snap. Experimenting with it right now, but it was due to some recent personnel discussions and how good of summers both Brennan and Devin had.”​
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So why not Eagles to the slot, he is basically a clone of LJH with better speed. Either way, I think our best 3 receivers are Eagles, Duv and CJ. All others need to fall in life after them. I'd probably throw in Epps as #4 on that list.

Joe Fan said:
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I already know how his analysis of our offense will read:

More short passes out on the flat.
 
Joe Fan said:
Seniors
Burt(RS), Duvernay, Johnson
Juniors
none
Sophomores
Eagles, Moore, Pouncey(RS)
Freshmen
Epps(RS), Lewis, Smith, Washington, Woodward(RS)
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Not really as bad as it seems as going into 2020:
3 Juniors; 5 Sophomores; and ever how many Freshmen that eventually sign-up.
 
Joe Fan said:
We have an interesting roster at WR with 3 seniors and no juniors. It's kind of hard to see everyone sticking. Here are our WRs by class (Epps was able to hang on to his RS)
Seniors
Burt(RS), Duvernay, Johnson
Juniors
none
Sophomores
Eagles, Moore, Pouncey(RS)
Freshmen
Epps(RS), Lewis, Smith, Washington, Woodward(RS)

Here is what the projected starters looked like until Aug practice began
X CJ, then Epps then Washington (Pouncey listed here last year)
Z Duvernay, then Eagles then Burt/Woodard/Lewis
H Moore or Smith, then Jordan Pouncey​

But now it looks like we are moving Duvernay to the slot, at least partially in an effort to get Eagles' speed on the field. It's possible this may not stick and is a motivation tool for Moore and Smith. And while I admit Ive never really considered Duv anything but a pure Z, you have to admit the idea of his speed and sure hands in the slot is intriguing.

Here is a quote from Herman about that move --
“We hadn’t planned on that until these last few weeks. It wasn’t even on our radar, to be honest with you. Then we had some long personnel meetings, offensively. Devin’s had an unbelievable offseason and so has Brennan. We feel like (Moore and Smith) have to really prove that they deserve to be on the field for an extended period of time. Because if that’s the case and Brennan and Devin are playing the same position, then one of them is going to be standing on the sideline every other snap. Experimenting with it right now, but it was due to some recent personnel discussions and how good of summers both Brennan and Devin had.”​
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Seems like Devin was used effectively a few times on the wheel route when Charlie was here. Motioning him from the slot into the backfield for that would look nice imo.
 
Austin_Bill said:
So why not Eagles to the slot, he is basically a clone of LJH with better speed. Either way, I think our best 3 receivers are Eagles, Duv and CJ. All others need to fall in life after them. I'd probably throw in Epps as #4 on that list. ...
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Jake?
 
Badass said:
TFB said yesterday that Jake was moved up to second team reps at Slot :hookem:
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It seems like we're often looking for an incoming star skills player to be the 'savior'.* Jake Smith certainly fits the bill--he's the Gatorade player of the year--at all positions.+ I hope and think we'll get to see some prime time playmaking by Jake starting this year. The staff should look for ways to get the ball into his hands.

Still, our WR starters are very good, and we have a number of young very talented guys at WR who have been waiting in the wings (Eagles, Pouncey, Epps), some of whom may have been sidelined by injuries at points last year. Also track star Burt is on the depth charts, looking for his breakout year. What's in front of our budding young superstar is anything but chopped liver. Jake will have to earn his way into playing time just like everyone else. I'm betting on him to do so. Looks like he's already up to 2nd team.


*I think pretty much every fan base falls into this line of thinking from time-to-time.

+Before Jake, it was Bru in the 'savior' role...
 
easy said:
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Concentration + body control, at high speeds, while spinning in the air. Very impressive indeed!

It's where football meets professional-level Russian ballet. (Sounds kinda weird, but it's a fair comparison. Although Olga and Boris never had to fight to get off the line...)
 
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Chop said:
+Before Jake, it was Bru in the 'savior' role......
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And before it was Bru, it was Jake

I think Herman has big plans for a speedy player in the slot. He leaned on it heavily for stretches at UH. And as great as LHH was for us, he did not scare anyone with his speed.

We dont know yet if the Duv move is permanent. I think they are just seeing what it looks like. But you can see the thought process - "Why dont we see how this works" But, in the end, maybe it's just aimed at motivating Moore/Smith? We will see.
 
Jake's blazing speed and playmaking skills could give opposing DCs nightmares, no doubt. It's not just Jake's speed though. Burt is just as fast (probably even faster on the track). My point is that Jake has to earn playing time just like anyone else. I think he will, although the competition at WR is very, very good.
 
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