Fall Camp 2022

Godz40acres said:
How Diamonte Tucker-Dorsey helps to
open up DeMarvion Overshown​

  • Missed tackle rate no higher than 8.0 percent
  • At least 40 run stops
  • Run stop percentage of at least 12.0
Even if Tucker-Dorsey only lives up to 80 percent of the production and efficiency that he displayed during his time playing for JMU, that would still be an upgrade for Texas compared to some of their middle linebackers from last season.


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Several things here. Missed tackle rate of 8%? Only 2 guys at that level met it? So there’s one baseline for how many tackles we can expect to miss. Rather than the perfection that is expected of certain persons.

This is a “highlight” reel. He hits his zone quickly. Then he reacts very quickly upon release. It is not a totally fair assessment when watching this but questions have to be answered about his ability to take on blocks. There are highlights in which he engages but it really wasn’t a strong effort. There also are clips in which their Dline protects him far better than what our dline did ours. I expect improvement from our guys.

He is a more mature guy than our LBers last year. He’s been allowed to grow into the position. Our guys last year weren’t. As a whole and individually, they will be better this year.
 
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Several things here. Missed tackle rate of 8%? Only 2 guys at that level met it? So there’s one baseline for how many tackles we can expect to miss. Rather than the perfection that is expected of certain persons.

This is a “highlight” reel. He hits his zone quickly. Then he reacts very quickly upon release. It is not a totally fair assessment when watching this but questions have to be answered about his ability to take on blocks. There are highlights in which he engages but it really wasn’t a strong effort. There also are clips in which their Dline protects him far better than what our dline did ours. I expect improvement from our guys.

He is a more mature guy than our LBers last year. He’s been allowed to grow into the position. Our guys last year weren’t. As a whole and individually, they will be better this year.
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this encourages me in that maybe Dorsey is more interested in making tackles than playing patty cake with blockers!
 
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this encourages me in that maybe Dorsey is more interested in making tackles than playing patty cake with blockers!
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Well sure, but our LBers had no choice but to play patty cake. And any OLineman will win his share of those. Our guys upfront did not cause double teams, they only ate up one blocker at a time, and they didn’t make enough plays. To a large extent, you can create a highlight reel of any of our LBers that shows some good stuff. And often you can see when it is their “fault” somebody else also has screwed up. We were not good at team football. We will be better.
 
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Godz40acres said:
4 players that shined in first fall scrimmage​

After the Texas offense started to make some apparent strides in full-pads practice earlier this week, it looks like the defense took things back over.

#1
Jordan Whittington, WR

There was some common feedback following the conclusion of this first fall scrimmage that one of the true offensive standouts was the former five-star recruit and redshirt junior wide receiver Jordan Whittington. This starting slot wideout was apparently still very productive and efficient in the receiving game, despite the secondary mostly getting the best of the offense.

Whittington had at least one touchdown catch on the day and only really had one mistake that was noteworthy. And that was not something that could be said for most offensive players for the Longhorns in this scrimmage.

That one mistake that Whittington made in this scrimmage was a drop on a pass from Card.

But drops are going to happen in these early scrimmages. It sounds like Texas even saw an unusual drop by star sophomore wide receiver Xavier Worthy.

Yet, the takeaway... looks to be that Whittington was a major positive. He apparently had a nice connection with Ewers on the day, including a receiving touchdown out of the slot.

#2
DeMarvion Overshown, LB

Overshown reportedly was all over the place, getting after the quarterback effectively while showing some flashes as a production run-stopper.

There was also a reported sack that Overshown had on the day of Ewers, which came on the very first play of the scrimmage. All in all, it sounds like Overshown was showing a lot of speed and quickness off the line of scrimmage when he was called upon as an edge rusher in this scrimmage.

Overshown’s speed was also apparently a problem for this offensive line, which was struggling to hold up the pocket for the quarterbacks in this scrimmage. That is a good sign considering how many situations Texas could utilize Overshown off the edge as a pass rusher this fall.

We will still continue to monitor Overshown’s progress when he’s asked to drop back into pass coverage. That was one area that we didn’t get a lot of returns from in this first fall scrimmage. It is also one of the more important parts of Overshown’s game where he needs to show some growth this season.

#3
From what we’ve heard about Thompson’s play in camp in the last few days, he’s really picking up the concepts of this defense in Year 2 under PK and Gideon. Thompson even reportedly had maybe the most impressive interception of the scrimmage on Aug. 13 (per the scrimmage notes from Inside Texas, paid content).

It wouldn’t surprise me in the slightest to hear Sark and the Longhorns staff continue to speak positively about the progress made by Thompson so far this offseason. Thompson was apparently very consistent and effective in pass protection in this first fall scrimmage.

And Thompson continues to step up as one of the vocal leaders in this secondary coming out of this weekend’s scrimmage.

If we keep getting these types of improvements from Thompson heading into the season, then all the chatter concerning any looming position battle at field safety will cease in the near future.

#4
Jaylon Guilbeau, CB

Guilbeau could be a candidate to either land a backup spot on the two-deep at corner or star this fall.

Moreover, a notable nugget here is that Guilbeau at least spent some of this first fall scrimmage playing with the ones at the star position. This would likely be due to some type of injury or non-football-related precaution for the Longhorns with junior defensive back Jahdae Barron.

Nonetheless, this is still a significant development for Guilbeau to be playing so well in camp, regardless of whether he gets reps at corner or star.

He apparently was one of the best freshmen in this scrimmage. And it sounds like he was able to make some big plays on the day, including at least one pass breakup and a couple of key tackles.

Honorable mentions
Bijan Robinson, RB
Kelvin Banks, OT
Charles Wright, QB
Ovie Oghoufo, EDGE

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Could be hyperbole...and not sure who was on defense...but it was also said that Charles Wright outshined both Ewers and Card. ??

Of concern was commentary that...outside of Banks...offensive line was not too bueno.

Appears secondary played well but that is to be expected if oline not holding up.

Good to hear we were getting some penetration but again..oline?

I hope the QBs and oline are able to put 2 of my 3 primary concerns to rest but, as of now, color me skeptical.
...though we did put up some offense...primarily early in the season last year..with a less than good line...so we shall see.

I do expect the D to be better this season
 
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OL has to get it together, and soon. Even an average OL would make for a good (or very good) offense with the explosive skills players we have.

Flood has to earn his keep.
 
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Chop said:
OL has to get it together, and soon. Even an average OL would make for a good (or very good) offense with the explosive skills players we have.

Flood has to earn his keep.
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2021 COLLEGE FOOTBALL OFFENSIVE LINE STATS | Football Outsiders

Do you believe in stats or not? This would indicate we are above average. Not in all categories but most and actually highly ranked in in some. Probably the highest ranked run crew in the Big 12.

Also, I would challenge you to find another Texas team in which the top 4 rushers average 5.8 or more per carry.

Pass pro needs to improve (run too but less so). Do you know what Sark never really did? Give the LT help. If that’s truly an issue, that is an option.
 
While I am interested in any and all reports, I read them with plenty of skepticism. Yep, I’m cynical.

There seems to be a predictable pattern: After the first scrimmage, plenty of concerns and a few bright spots. Then, after scrimmage # 2, the offense and the QBs will predictably look “much better.” I expect to hear that Saturday evening. So, aside from glowing reports about a player or two, I take it with a grain of salt. (Heck, listen to Saban. Their team pretty much sucks just about now, aside from the starters.)

Let me add that Sark and his staff should have a good read on their team by now. Not a final verdict, but a good idea. No way though that they will reveal their real assessments to the masses.

To be Captain Obvious, the only report that really matters is the one we will all observe starting at 11:00 AM on September 10th.

Rant over…
 



2021 COLLEGE FOOTBALL OFFENSIVE LINE STATS | Football Outsiders
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“Do you believe in stats or not? This would indicate we are above average. Not in all categories but most and actually highly ranked in in some. Probably the highest ranked run crew in the Big 12.

Also, I would challenge you to find another Texas team in which the top 4 rushers average 5.8 or more per carry.

Pass pro needs to improve (run too but less so). Do you know what Sark never really did? Give the LT help. If that’s truly an issue, that is an option.[/QUOTE]”




My take on last year’s OL performance:

Majors was pretty good—as a true Freshman.
The OGs were ok
The OTs (both sides) were awful at pass protection, especially against the speedy edge rush ends.

Our rushing performance can largely be attributed to a phenomenal RB (Bijan), a hard running power back (Roschon), and some nifty play designs by Sark.

That being said, I’d say we went from a terrible OL to a roughly average OL last year. But those quick edge rush ends still killed us over-and-over. That’s got to stop.
 
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Our rushing performance can largely be attributed to a phenomenal RB (Bijan), a hard running power back (Roschon), and some nifty play designs by Sark.

That being said, I’d say we went from a terrible OL to a roughly average OL last year. But those quick edge rush ends still killed us over-and-over. That’s got to stop.[/QUOTE]

No doubt we need to clean that up off the edge.

Those stats take out the effect of the backs, but we’ve had great backs before so that was part of the point on 4 guys averaging that high. Also as another frame of reference, Najee Harris and Bijan got as many yards per rush when he was a National Champ at Bama.

That was year 1 in the system. Unfortunately, the Oline just took a hit.
 
Godz...you or anyone else have 247 vip?
Apparently they have injury updates...doesnt sound too good...but I cant get specifics.
Anyone have Insider??
Edit: see below
 
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Nevermind.......
Found it....
And it IS terrible.
Of the 4 injured, Rj and Barron will be ok
BUT
Isaiah Neyor (whom everyone projects to the NFL and has been one of the stars of Spring and early Fall) is lost for the year
AND
So is Junior Angilau....out for year

Very tough news to start the Fall for this team trying to turn things around
 
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Our rushing performance can largely be attributed to a phenomenal RB (Bijan), a hard running power back (Roschon), and some nifty play designs by Sark.

That being said, I’d say we went from a terrible OL to a roughly average OL last year. But those quick edge rush ends still killed us over-and-over. That’s got to stop.[/QUOTE]

No doubt we need to clean that up off the edge.

Those stats take out the effect of the backs, but we’ve had great backs before so that was part of the point on 4 guys averaging that high. Also as another frame of reference, Najee Harris and Bijan got as many yards per rush when he was a National Champ at Bama.

That was year 1 in the system. Unfortunately, the Oline just took a hit.[/QUOTE]



Those stats show a “sack rate” ranking of 90th in the nation. :yikes:
Poor Hudson didn’t stand a chance in the pocket. Casey improvised, scrambled, and made things happen, often on his own.
That 90th ranking in pass protection sounds about right for last year. Gotta fix that to make a run for the Conference Championship and the Playoffs. And maybe we will fix it! Flood has a good resume. He’s not some bumbling moron who stumbled into Belmont off the streets.
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Yeah Pass Pro is the main issue, but there also is huge disparity between the sack rate on standard versus passing downs. If you want positives, we are much better, top 50 even, on passing downs.

Also keep in mind, the teams we played were very good at that. We played 6 of the top 37 in creating TFLs or something like that. For 8 of 12, we held them to less than their season average. Two of those had 0.5 more than their average. On a per play basis, who knows.
 
Our top 5 WR group just dropped to top 20. Really bad news. Losing Neyor will cost us 2 games unless Omiere has an amazing season.
 
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UPDATED: Injury report after first
scrimmage of fall camp​

The Texas Longhorns, who had escaped any significant injuries through spring and summer workouts, got some tough injury news following their first scrimmage of fall camp on Saturday.

[F]ifth-year offensive lineman Junior Angilau suffered a serious knee injury while transfer receiver Isaiah Neyor (6-3, 215) also suffered a serious knee injury, and running back Roschon Johnson suffered a sprained ankle.

Johnson was in a boot after the scrimmage but indicated to sources the injury was only a sprain that he’d be back.

The news may not be as favorable for Angilau and Neyor, sources said, adding that both players were getting second opinions.

The initial diagnosis on Neyor was a season-ending torn ACL. Neyor was injured later in the scrimmage after catching a 20-yard completion down the seam from Hudson Card, sources said.

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3 WRs that must step up with Isaiah Neyor out​

Casey Cain, WR
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Former three-star recruit and redshirt freshman wide receiver Casey Cain could be a dark horse to watch this fall. Cain has shown flashes of becoming a productive outside receiver in camp in the last two years.

Cain certainly has the size, at 6-foot-3 and 195-pounds, has good timing on those contested 50/50 balls on the outside and is pretty gifted vertically.

Yet, Cain hasn’t proved himself on the big stage yet and he appears to be limited in terms of his flat-out speed.

Jaden Alexis, WR
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Alexis arrived on the Forty Acres last offseason as the highest-rated wide receiver signee from the Longhorns’ 2021 recruiting class. There was some real excitement about what his combination of route running ability, flat-out speed, and reliable hands could bring to the table for this Texas wide receiver room.

But his season-ending injury dashed any hope Alexis had of making an immediate impact on this wide receiver room.

At full health, 6-foot-1 and 185-pound Alexis does have the speed and leaping ability necessary to assume key reps at the x or z-wide receiver spot.

Troy Omeire, WR
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After suffering two unfortunate season-ending knee injuries in the previous two offseasons, it’s starting to look like Omeire is working his way back to something close to full health.

If Omeire is even close to 100 percent this fall, he will definitely be a breakout candidate to watch on the outside for the Longhorns. At 6-foot-3 and 225-pounds, Omeire has the size, leaping ability, sticky hands, and quick feet necessary to succeed as an outside receiver in Sark’s offense.

I will be cautiously optimistic regarding this third-year wideout getting thrust into the spotlight right away this season. Omeire is still wearing a hefty knee brace in fall practice and the staff is limiting the type of routes he’s running and the degree to which he’s able to participate in contact drills...

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